You're selling your bike, you're moving on, what NEXT ?

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Motorcycles with a subscription will be the norm. The more electronics that are installed on a bike, the easier it will be for the manufacturer to lock out those features. Mercedes just released a $1200 a year subscription to unlock the high speed setting. As corporations figure out more ways to lock the product you buy, they will.
 

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Saw a local news segment today. There has been a rumor that buried deep in Biden's infrastructure bill, it is written that manufacturers have to put in a kill switch on all new cars. Well. they did some digging and there is nothing about a "kill switch". (I could get behind that considering how many pursuits end badly) But, it is written that manufacturers will be installing devices to prevent impaired driving. There was no elaboration or additional details. Not that I would have any issue with this either, but I really don't see intoxilocks being installed on every car. Rich folk wouldn't stand for their Escalades telling them they could start the motor 'cuz they're drunk.

As previously mentioned, the increased electronics and internet connectivity will make this easily enacted. Even OnStar 20 years ago was able to receive signals from the car, send signals to the car for unlocks and diagnostics. My son's '14 dart's back-up camera would stop working when his fuel light activated. He had to get to go to the dealer and physically get an update, just like an iPhone. Nowadays those updates are downloaded while driving down the road on newer cars.

Just wait 'till our vehicles get A.I., get an attitude and decide to not start or drive us over a cliff. :D
 

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Saw a local news segment today. There has been a rumor that buried deep in Biden's infrastructure bill, it is written that manufacturers have to put in a kill switch on all new cars. Well. they did some digging and there is nothing about a "kill switch". (I could get behind that considering how many pursuits end badly) But, it is written that manufacturers will be installing devices to prevent impaired driving. There was no elaboration or additional details. Not that I would have any issue with this either, but I really don't see intoxilocks being installed on every car. Rich folk wouldn't stand for their Escalades telling them they could start the motor 'cuz they're drunk.

As previously mentioned, the increased electronics and internet connectivity will make this easily enacted. Even OnStar 20 years ago was able to receive signals from the car, send signals to the car for unlocks and diagnostics. My son's '14 dart's back-up camera would stop working when his fuel light activated. He had to get to go to the dealer and physically get an update, just like an iPhone. Nowadays those updates are downloaded while driving down the road on newer cars.

Just wait 'till our vehicles get A.I., get an attitude and decide to not start or drive us over a cliff. :D
That’s when I buy a cool 40+ year old car. Fix and maintain it, and keep driving it. That would be my everyday car. Tons of old great cars out there. LOL
 

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That’s when I buy a cool 40+ year old car. Fix and maintain it, and keep driving it. That would be my everyday car. Tons of old great cars out there. LOL
My oldest and I were talking today about the new "subscription cars" and said exactly that. Get a straight, rust-free frame/chassis, and put either a crate motor/trans in it or pull a trans/motor out a junk yard donor.

I'm leaning toward a '70/'80s Suburban. Back then all the parts were that same as the C-10/20s. Tons of aftermarket support. Stick with throttle body self-contained EFI. Plenty of room and towing. Keep looking like crap so nobody pulls out in front of me. :cool:
 

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I'm leaning toward a '70/'80s Suburban. Back then all the parts were that same as the C-10/20s. Tons of aftermarket support. Stick with throttle body self-contained EFI. Plenty of room and towing. Keep looking like crap so nobody pulls out in front of me. :cool:
My 77 chevy swb van is in the paint shop as we speak - balanced 350 w/od and a big ole carberetter ;) And when that motor gets tired? nuther 350 ;)
 

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With the vast majority of current bikers now being 60 plus, and with very few under 50s joining in, I can only see that most of us will inevitably move to lighter bikes like these new 750/800 twins. And I reckon this is another reason Yamaha and Honda have all but given up on anything bigger. The future is in smaller lighter bikes. The ever increasing size of the GS will ultimately be its eventual downfall…….but not for a few years yet.
 

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My oldest and I were talking today about the new "subscription cars" and said exactly that. Get a straight, rust-free frame/chassis, and put either a crate motor/trans in it or pull a trans/motor out a junk yard donor.

I'm leaning toward a '70/'80s Suburban. Back then all the parts were that same as the C-10/20s. Tons of aftermarket support. Stick with throttle body self-contained EFI. Plenty of room and towing. Keep looking like crap so nobody pulls out in front of me. :cool:
You should get an S10 truck ;)
 

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BMW were quite early in the their parallel twin.
And DM's F750GS is a wonderful bike. Definitely lighter and easier for her to command than any of her Super Teneres were. A bit cramped for me, but I still enjoyed a 200 mile ride on it yesterday and came away, as always, impressed with how BMW can make a motorcycle feel luxurious. Don't fully understand it, but it's unmistakable. A fantastic motorcycle for anyone moving down in size.
 

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Back on the original subject, I agree with a lot of the previous comments. I too, have been looking and debating the pros and cons of a new bike. I don't like the new keyless feature, but I do understand the riding electronics advantages when used. I'm the set it and forget type, so all of those features might not be an advantage to me. But I thought that about getting cruise on the ST when picking it out, which I now regret. Even though I am getting older and my riding friends are stopping their off road adventuring, I still thrive on it. I like the capability of the KTM adventure R series (both 890 and 1290), but hesitant about their maintenance, warranty and dealer issues, plus no shaft drive. My closest KTM or BMW dealer is 30 miles away. So, that brings up another possibility, doing a complete upgrade on the suspension. Say going with the Ohlin's cartridge replacements (FKA 106) in the front and their rear (STX 46 Adventure). Since the engine and frame etc will last a long time, would something like that be a worth while investment? Would adding $3k to the value of a $5-8k bike make sense? I know I would never get that out of it if I sold it. I have even thought about changing the color too, so by the time I was finished, it would look and feel like new bike.
 

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Back on the original subject, I agree with a lot of the previous comments. I too, have been looking and debating the pros and cons of a new bike. I don't like the new keyless feature, but I do understand the riding electronics advantages when used. I'm the set it and forget type, so all of those features might not be an advantage to me. But I thought that about getting cruise on the ST when picking it out, which I now regret. Even though I am getting older and my riding friends are stopping their off road adventuring, I still thrive on it. I like the capability of the KTM adventure R series (both 890 and 1290), but hesitant about their maintenance, warranty and dealer issues, plus no shaft drive. My closest KTM or BMW dealer is 30 miles away. So, that brings up another possibility, doing a complete upgrade on the suspension. Say going with the Ohlin's cartridge replacements (FKA 106) in the front and their rear (STX 46 Adventure). Since the engine and frame etc will last a long time, would something like that be a worth while investment? Would adding $3k to the value of a $5-8k bike make sense? I know I would never get that out of it if I sold it. I have even thought about changing the color too, so by the time I was finished, it would look and feel like new bike.
That a tough one. It doesn’t sound like it makes sense. But if you like the bike and really know that your good with this for another 5++ years, I would say yes, get the Ohlins. It makes a big difference and the “window” of adjustment is HUGE compared to stock. If your like me, you do have the ability to adjust it for highway use and then when I get to the 1000+ miles of off road BDR, I adjust it much stiffer. If you don’t ride off road you can really dial it in to the feel you really desire. The stock suspension is a joke compared to a high end custom set up.

So really your the only one that knows if this will enhance your future with the Super Tenere.
 
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Parts are hard to come by, people stop making stuff and only Chinese shit is available. The prices for older vehicles are high as well.
 

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I just have new bike itch and Winter is the time to get the deals!!!!
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Are you talking about a 10 speed bicycle ? LOL



And what if your new motorbike is not out on the market yet ?......... LOL........... SH^$. It gives someone time to 'dream' and something to look forward to ! LOL
 

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I drive a 03 F250 7.3L Lariat.


Parts are hard to come by, people stop making stuff and only Chinese shit is available. The prices for older vehicles are high as well.

My little Honda car has 275K miles and drives/looks like almost new....... Still gets 43 MPG. The little parts are super easy to find and fix. And the big parts are dime-a-dozen at the junk yard cheep. (if I need any)
 

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The new SAS 2021 models are cropping up now used and the 1200 Tigers before the new updated ones. Lots of bike still a good lot of money but after they have been around a while there will be some choice which is great.
 

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I drive a 03 F250 7.3L Lariat.


Parts are hard to come by, people stop making stuff and only Chinese shit is available. The prices for older vehicles are high as well.
A lot of vehicles are hard to find parts for. I found out several years ago in the USA anyway it was not leagle to sell some parts for older cars. The junk yards cant even sell those parts. All i needed was a diaphram for a carb on my truck. Could not buy the rebuild kit and could not buy a carb from the junk yard. I could buy a new epa approved carb for more than the truck was worth. Ran into a mechanic i know and he had a rebuild kit on his shelf that must have been 30 years old. Truck is still running. I look for the bikes to follow but they already sort of have. Not a lot of aftermarket parts for jap bikes and when they run out of new parts to sell for a model that is no longer made you got to go looking for old stuff. So new bikes are the wave like them or not!
 

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Hopefully we will be better off in ability to get parts than most. How many vehicles keep basically the same model for 10+ years. I did try to find sales figures by year for the XT1200 but couldn't find anything.

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