Tenman
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Got 2nd moderna shot yesterday. First one was a breeze. 2nd one got me feeling weak 24 hours later
Nothing's ever 100% or 0%, but at some point the risk is small enough that some of these precautions are not going to change it further in any significant way. The low positive rates found among front line heath workers indicate that asymptomatic infections, post full vaccination (final dose +2 weeks), is not going to be a major issue.I generally agree with you, but it's a bit more complicated - and we are still learning new things every day.
Among other things it depends on which type of vaccine you received and how well you responded to it.
Clinical trials and real-world studies have shown that the COVID-19 vaccines are very effective at preventing severe COVID-19.
Some vaccines are also very good at preventing infections, including asymptomatic ones.
But scientists don’t fully know yet how much the vaccines reduce transmission of the virus from a vaccinated person to others.
The good news is that studies suggest that the vaccines do reduce transmission — to some extent.
Additional studies are underway now that should give us a better answer soon to the question of transmission after vaccination.
A COVID-19 vaccine that is very effective at preventing people from contracting the coronavirus in the first place can help reduce transmission. People can’t transmit the virus if they don’t have an infection.
However, the primary goal of clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines was to show whether the vaccines prevent symptomatic infections and, in some cases, moderate or severe COVID-19.
Most trials weren’t designed to show whether the vaccines also block asymptomatic infections — those that don’t cause symptoms.
Since those first studies, researchers have carried out additional research that provides clues to how well the vaccines prevent all infections.
Last week, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released initial results from a studyTrusted Source on the real-world effectiveness of the two mRNA vaccines approved in the United States, those developed by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna-NIAID.
Researchers collected weekly nasal swabs from all participants to see if they had any viral genetic material, regardless of whether they had COVID-19 symptoms.
They also collected an additional nasal swab and saliva sample if people developed symptoms.
The vaccines were 90 percent effective at blocking infections — symptomatic and asymptomatic — in people who had two doses of the vaccine, and 80 percent effective in people who had one dose.
That means there was a 90 percent decrease in infections in people who were fully vaccinated compared with a similar unvaccinated group of people.
Studies like this show that the mRNA vaccines greatly reduce infections, but these are just two of the vaccines available.
While all the approved vaccines offer strong protection against severe COVID-19 and hospitalization, the Oxford-AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines block fewer infections than do the mRNA vaccines.
None of the vaccines are 100 percent effective at preventing infections. So even if people don’t get very sick with COVID-19, they may still contract an infection and can potentially transmit the virus to others.
Some research suggests that even if a person who has been vaccinated contracts an infection, the virus may be less infectious in this case — at least for certain vaccines.
Several research groups are measuring “viral load” — the concentration of coronavirus particles — in people who have been vaccinated.
Earlier researchTrusted Source found that viral load is a good indicator of infectiousness.
In a studyTrusted Source published in late March in Nature Medicine, Israeli researchers found that people who had been vaccinated with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine and later contracted an infection had lower viral loads than unvaccinated people who contracted an infection.
“The results show that infections occurring 12 [days] or longer after vaccination have significantly reduced viral loads at the time of testing, potentially affecting viral shedding and contagiousness as well as the severity of the disease,” the authors wrote.
Other studies have found similar results.
Source: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/if-youre-vaccinated-can-you-transmit-covid-19-what-we-know#Vaccines-may-reduce-virus-infectiousness
They gonna chip you with the 2ndhaving my second this moday 19th april well happy to be honest
don,t care they,ll soon get bored of me got no money, no friends, no family never go out 2 days they,ll move on lolThey gonna chip you with the 2nd
Lucky youThanks AVGeek -
I work for a day and missed all the - whatever.
I'm waiting for the 6G chip.don,t care they,ll soon get bored of me got no money, no friends, no family never go out 2 days they,ll move on lol
they chipped me with the first jab rang me up a week later asked for it back lol
No, don't do that! We need a new category in the poll as it was set up before vaccine distribution really got going I think. How about BTDT!I will change mine to Heck No after I get my second dose so as to be honest and forthcoming. I will not be getting the vaccine because I already got it!!
Good idea and with that a new polling option exists!No, don't do that! We need a new category in the poll as it was set up before vaccine distribution really got going I think. How about BTDT!
You will be assimilated. . . . resistance is futile. . . .Thank you all you human Test subjects.
My guess is no - or at leastCurious. Has anyone changed their vote in the poll during the course of this thread?
I might be a bit slow, but what is BTDT short of?No, don't do that! We need a new category in the poll as it was set up before vaccine distribution really got going I think. How about BTDT!