Will you take the vaccine

will you take the vaccine

  • yes

    Votes: 93 56.0%
  • no

    Votes: 14 8.4%
  • maybe later

    Votes: 22 13.3%
  • heck no

    Votes: 13 7.8%
  • BTDT - Got the shot

    Votes: 24 14.5%

  • Total voters
    166

Tenman

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My 65 yr old lady friend has a 24 yr old nephew and his soon to be exwife with a baby and a 5 yr old. They don't take any prceautions for the chinavirus. I've heard the young lady say she can't do it. It's just too hard. I'm not afraid of croaking but my lady friend has a few health problems and is a potential prime candidate to get it. They bring the kids over and leave them with her all the time. I ask my friend if she was gonna take the shot. She said she didn't know. She's kinda nervous about it. I told her she took the small pox shot and the Polio sugar cube involuntarily in grade school. It was for the greater good and almost or did eliminated those 2 killers. Nobody protested against those that I know of and nobody got called sheep. She was kinda speechless. If social media was around in the 60s. It makes me wonder if those 2 diseases would still be crippling. I'm gonna take the vaccine myself. Covid just set a new high here in Ms. I went to a couple of stores today. They don't enforce anything here anymore. The black community seems to be wearing masks and social distancing way more than the white community. We have hardly any other ethnic groups here
 
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twinrider

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Vaccines are different now and can make people sick with the disease it's supposed to prevent. A polio vaccine used in Africa gave most of the recipients polio. The link below is from the lefty Guardian, just in case anyone thinks it's a far right conspiracy theory.

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Tenman

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I had a guy in my high school class In the 60's that got the US vaccine. He got polio anyway. His dad got polio as a kid and it made him a hunch back (Kyphosis). My school friend made a full recovery though and was our top long distance runner in high school. He is still racing bicycles today at 64.
 

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Vaccines are different now and can make people sick with the disease it's supposed to prevent. A polio vaccine used in Africa gave most of the recipients polio. The link below is from the lefty Guardian, just in case anyone thinks it's a far right conspiracy theory.

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If you read the article this an oral vaccine that was used. Oral vaccine is banned in most western countries because of this risk. The fact is that 2 children got polio after having the oral vaccine and then spread it to others. Up until then Africa was polio free due to the vaccination program. Up to you if you take it but I work for the Ambulance Service and have been up close to some very poorly covid patients and I’ll be getting mine done as soon as I can


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twinrider

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If you read the article this an oral vaccine that was used. Oral vaccine is banned in most western countries because of this risk. The fact is that 2 children got polio after having the oral vaccine and then spread it to others. Up until then Africa was polio free due to the vaccination program. Up to you if you take it but I work for the Ambulance Service and have been up close to some very poorly covid patients and I’ll be getting mine done as soon as I can


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OK oral vaccines are out.

I'm not up for an mrna covid vaccine either

 

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I think the mRNA vaccines may be inherently safer. Unlike killed or attenuated virus vaccines, the inoculum does not contain the genome of the virus, only enough messenger RNA to make the spike protein which is what the immune system is reacting to. There’s no way to contract an infection from this type of vaccine. The parts of the virus nucleic acid needed for replication is not present.

When people catch the disease they were being vaccinated for it’s usually because the supposed dead virus vaccine contained some live virus or in the case of an attenuated virus vaccine, some non-attenuated virus was present. The process of killing or attenuating the virus can infrequently not be fully effective.

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MattR

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OK oral vaccines are out.

I'm not up for an mrna covid vaccine either

Once again, if you read the article, the contributors say there is no cause for concern other than if the vaccine has been stored incorrectly making it ineffective and leading people to believe they are vaccinated when they’re not.


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tallpaul

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Just to answer the title of the thread my answer would be no. I just have doubts that there may be possible long term repercussions that can't have been found in such a short space of time. My 90 year old next door neighbour recovered from covid but it took about a month, so since I'm half her age I will take my chances. I figure it's the lesser of two possible evils, so stick with the devil you know. Not very scientific but it works in my tiny mind.
 

MattR

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It’s true people react to the virus differently we recently had a 100 year old come out of hospital having survived it. But I’m still off work with it nearly six months after I got it and I’m told I can expect up to a year. But I’m a lucky one, I’ve seen a 44 year old expire from it. But my point is, even if you survive it, the illness can completely decimate your body. My lungs still have fluid in them and my spleen is leaking into my chest cavity. My strong advice is take the vaccine. The risk of not taking it is far worse.
I realise that if you are of the antivaxxer / climate changer mind set then there is nothing I can say that you will want to listen to. I just felt I had to try. This is an awful disease please do everything you can to protect yourself from it.
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Don T

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When a vaccine is approved by the Danish and European health authorities, I won't have any concerns getting it.
I expect that you'll need documentation for being vaccinated if you want to be able to travel freely any time soon - and that is more than enough reason for me to get the shot.
 

twinrider

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It’s true people react to the virus differently we recently had a 100 year old come out of hospital having survived it. But I’m still off work with it nearly six months after I got it and I’m told I can expect up to a year. But I’m a lucky one, I’ve seen a 44 year old expire from it. But my point is, even if you survive it, the illness can completely decimate your body. My lungs still have fluid in them and my spleen is leaking into my chest cavity. My strong advice is take the vaccine. The risk of not taking it is far worse.
I realise that if you are of the antivaxxer / climate changer mind set then there is nothing I can say that you will want to listen to. I just felt I had to try. This is an awful disease please do everything you can to protect yourself from it.
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Matt


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Your outlook is understandable considering your health issues. But for now I'll stay away from the mrna vaccine given the high asymptomatic rate, the 99.9 percent survival rate for those under 70, and the 97.5 percent survival rate for those over 70 (Trump got over it in 4 days). If the vaccine proves to have no issues down the road, I might reconsider it, but in the meantime I'll continue to take the necessary steps to protect my health (wearing face masks in stores and social distancing).
 
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MattR

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Your outlook is understandable considering your health issues. But for now I'll stay away from the mrna vaccine given the high asymptomatic rate, the 99.9 percent survival rate for those under 70, and the 97.5 percent survival rate for those over 70 (Trump got over it in 4 days). If the vaccine proves to have no issues down the road, I might reconsider it, but in the meantime I'll continue to take the necessary steps to protect my health (wearing face masks in stores and social distancing).
It’s not just about survival although 116 deaths per 1000 is pretty stark if you’re in your 70s. There are also the issues with Long Covid that need to be taken into account. Loss of muscle mass and strength, shortness of breath, dizziness and a whole host of other effects that stop you living a normal life for months if not years afterwards. Put it another way, would you risk speeding every time you ride, or riding without insurance? Probably not I’m guessing. So why risk this?


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At the moment I am on the fence. 10 weeks ago my sister and brother-in-law, (75 & 77) were both diagnosed with covid. My brother-in-law was being treated for prostate cancer with 13 years and his life expectancy was before he was positive for covid, being measured in terms of <3 months. Their 3 daughters and families were tested as close contacts. 2 daughters and 1 of their husbands were positive as were their 4 children. My sisters husband spent 14 days in hospital and was released covid free but died 6 weeks later. Covid was a contributing facor according to his death cert. 8 days later their daughter who had not tested positive for covid died suddenly from a massive brain bleed. My sister and all the other family members have made a full recovery with no after effects of covid. It surely is a pure lottery .
 

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It’s not just about survival although 116 deaths per 1000 is pretty stark if you’re in your 70s. There are also the issues with Long Covid that need to be taken into account. Loss of muscle mass and strength, shortness of breath, dizziness and a whole host of other effects that stop you living a normal life for months if not years afterwards. Put it another way, would you risk speeding every time you ride, or riding without insurance? Probably not I’m guessing. So why risk this?


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my 2 best mates have long covid, both in ICU units in april one is 48 the other 58 were told in april in ICU it was 50/50 if they would recover luckly they did but 7 months on still have long covid to see them is shocking,
i,ve had type 1 diabetes for 42 yrs i,m 58 now painfull feet and hands i,m having it asap

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ballisticexchris

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Yes and I think it should be put into law just like the current requirements:


Unfortunately there are a group of idiots who are going to refuse and this virus will continue to spread. Do not believe the media, anti vacs, and government officials who are doing everything in their power to prevent this vaccine becoming available.

FWIW, the COVID vaccine was developed, proven effective, safe, and ready to distribute months ago. It's all the damn red tape and regulatory delays that are preventing this from being distributed. The US Department Of Health And Services can care less about public safety.

Russia has already started and Germany is not far behind.
 
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