Tenman
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If you read the article this an oral vaccine that was used. Oral vaccine is banned in most western countries because of this risk. The fact is that 2 children got polio after having the oral vaccine and then spread it to others. Up until then Africa was polio free due to the vaccination program. Up to you if you take it but I work for the Ambulance Service and have been up close to some very poorly covid patients and I’ll be getting mine done as soon as I canVaccines are different now and can make people sick with the disease it's supposed to prevent. A polio vaccine used in Africa gave most of the recipients polio. The link below is from the lefty Guardian, just in case anyone thinks it's a far right conspiracy theory.
.Vaccine-derived polio spreads in Africa after defeat of wild virus
Fresh cases of disease linked to oral vaccine seen in Sudan, following outbreak in Chadwww.theguardian.com
OK oral vaccines are out.If you read the article this an oral vaccine that was used. Oral vaccine is banned in most western countries because of this risk. The fact is that 2 children got polio after having the oral vaccine and then spread it to others. Up until then Africa was polio free due to the vaccination program. Up to you if you take it but I work for the Ambulance Service and have been up close to some very poorly covid patients and I’ll be getting mine done as soon as I can
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Once again, if you read the article, the contributors say there is no cause for concern other than if the vaccine has been stored incorrectly making it ineffective and leading people to believe they are vaccinated when they’re not.OK oral vaccines are out.
I'm not up for an mrna covid vaccine either
Could mRNA COVID-19 vaccines be dangerous in the long-term?
‘There is a race to get the public vaccinated, so we are willing to take more risk.'www.jpost.com
Your outlook is understandable considering your health issues. But for now I'll stay away from the mrna vaccine given the high asymptomatic rate, the 99.9 percent survival rate for those under 70, and the 97.5 percent survival rate for those over 70 (Trump got over it in 4 days). If the vaccine proves to have no issues down the road, I might reconsider it, but in the meantime I'll continue to take the necessary steps to protect my health (wearing face masks in stores and social distancing).It’s true people react to the virus differently we recently had a 100 year old come out of hospital having survived it. But I’m still off work with it nearly six months after I got it and I’m told I can expect up to a year. But I’m a lucky one, I’ve seen a 44 year old expire from it. But my point is, even if you survive it, the illness can completely decimate your body. My lungs still have fluid in them and my spleen is leaking into my chest cavity. My strong advice is take the vaccine. The risk of not taking it is far worse.
I realise that if you are of the antivaxxer / climate changer mind set then there is nothing I can say that you will want to listen to. I just felt I had to try. This is an awful disease please do everything you can to protect yourself from it.
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It’s not just about survival although 116 deaths per 1000 is pretty stark if you’re in your 70s. There are also the issues with Long Covid that need to be taken into account. Loss of muscle mass and strength, shortness of breath, dizziness and a whole host of other effects that stop you living a normal life for months if not years afterwards. Put it another way, would you risk speeding every time you ride, or riding without insurance? Probably not I’m guessing. So why risk this?Your outlook is understandable considering your health issues. But for now I'll stay away from the mrna vaccine given the high asymptomatic rate, the 99.9 percent survival rate for those under 70, and the 97.5 percent survival rate for those over 70 (Trump got over it in 4 days). If the vaccine proves to have no issues down the road, I might reconsider it, but in the meantime I'll continue to take the necessary steps to protect my health (wearing face masks in stores and social distancing).
my 2 best mates have long covid, both in ICU units in april one is 48 the other 58 were told in april in ICU it was 50/50 if they would recover luckly they did but 7 months on still have long covid to see them is shocking,It’s not just about survival although 116 deaths per 1000 is pretty stark if you’re in your 70s. There are also the issues with Long Covid that need to be taken into account. Loss of muscle mass and strength, shortness of breath, dizziness and a whole host of other effects that stop you living a normal life for months if not years afterwards. Put it another way, would you risk speeding every time you ride, or riding without insurance? Probably not I’m guessing. So why risk this?
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