Outstanding Group Buy! Solstice lights!

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Everyone who has responded to me via PM or email should have gotten the code this week. I usually reply via your email. Please PM me if you have not gotten the code. I will resend it asap. We have met our quota of 10 buyers plus! The code will work through the month of March. I have not set mine up yet, but I may do a dry run on the vstrom, mostly to pacify me while I wait...
 

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HoebSTer said:
I know everything is included in the kit, but what about the mechanics of it? On the VSTrom site, people were adding an Eastern Beaver Relay kit to the OEM Headlights. Why? Does this reduce the voltage loaded onto the switch when we turn from low to high beams or something?
Hoebster,
To elaborate a bit on what Venture explained, think of your houses 120V wiring for a light. If you have a dining room fixture with 5 60watt lights (total of 300watts), the wiring in your wall runs from your breaker box through a wall switch then to the light (unless the switch is past the light in the circuit, but I'm trying to keep this simple). All of the wiring and the switch all have to be of sufficient gauge and capacity to handle the entire load since it all flows directly through the wire and switch. When the switch is off, the circuit is broken so no "juice" gets to the light. Flip it on and the circuit is completed so the fixture lights up.

You can wire your bike the same way, but you would have to have wiring of a thick enough gauge and a switch that can handle the entire load that the lights will draw. In this case, the LED draw next to nothing, so that isn't the best example, but HID ballast or some other higher draw accessory would mean you need larger gauge wire for everything. With a relay, the full power load only has to travel from the power source (directly from the battery or from a fuse block), then through the relay, then directly to the accessory. The relay takes the place of the switch that breaks the circuit. Now the wiring going to and from the relay and your actual switch need only be of a gauge that will handle a very small amount of juice. When you flip your switch on, the little bit of juice tells the relay to close the circuit so the power flows to your lights. This can be seen in all manner of switches. From stereo amps to factory auto lights, there are large gauge wires that supply the power and small gauge wires between the switch and relay. No reason to run all that power through many feet of cable and a high capacity switch, all of which is more expensive and has more resistance, when you can simply use tiny little wire and tiny little switch to tell a relay to open and close the circuit. Safer, too, to not have all that 'electricity flowing all over.

Another example, the starter on your car or truck. All of the power from your battery doesn't flow from your battery to your ignition, to the starter, and back to the battery. You have a solenoid that clicks when you turn the key forward and allows the current to flow directly from your battery to the starter. That is why you don't have 1/2" diameter wire running all the way to your steering column and then down to the starter.

Another aspect is load. You stock headlight wire is of a proper gauge to handle a certain amount of load. If you tap into that wire to run additional lights, you are running a much higher load through that wire. Probably more than that wire gauge was made to handle. Think about your house wiring again. You have many circuits because it is only safe to run so many amps through any one circuit. That is why you have circuit breakers or fuses. To prevent you from pulling too much load through the wiring. The fuse pops or breaker trips before you burn up your wiring. Say you have 4 outlets on one circuit and decide to tap into that wiring and add another 4 outlets. You can plug in more things so can potentially draw way more amps through the wire than it was designed for. In that case, your circuit breaker would trip way more often, which saves your wire, but what if you didn't have the circuit breaker or put in a larger so it didn't trip as easy. Now you would be overloading the wiring. The same is true of your bikes wiring. It is better to create a new circuit, with it's own fuse, rather than tapping into existing circuits pulling power for accessories through that existing circuits fuse and wiring, which may be undersized to handle the additional load.
 

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so is this likely how the OEM Yamaha kit is wired from the factory harness using a relay too?
 

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HoebSTer said:
so is this likely how the OEM Yamaha kit is wired from the factory harness using a relay too?
Most likely - yes - for all the same reasons that Chad explained above.
It's the "right" way to add aux lighting.
 

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Thanks Chadx. I never really understood relays until that very lucid explanation. Makes all the sense in the world
 

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Chadx great explaination.

HoebSTer I am planing to use the lights the same way as you are. I have an FZ-1 fuze block with a built in relay. Since the realay is already built into the fuze block I don't plan to use the one that came with the lights. I'll just hook it up to the proper amp fuze and run the wires to the switch to the light. Nice and simple.
 

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Placed my order this evening for my "Prime" lights!!! WooHoo!!!!!

(I wonder when I will have my SuperT to mount them on????) ???
 

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Man that is just cruel, cruel and cruel.. :))
 

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Chadx said:
Just in time to see how they do in the snow. :D
Ha!!! Had very little snow (except in the mountains) this year in Colorado. I WOULD HAVE been doing a lot of rides this winter/spring had it not been for my little broken wrist incident!!!
 

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My Prime lights arrived yesterday!!! Woo Hoo!!! Please Yamaha - deliver my SuperT so I have something to mount them on!!! :)
 

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colorider said:
Ha!!! Had very little snow (except in the mountains) this year in Colorado. I WOULD HAVE been doing a lot of rides this winter/spring had it not been for my little broken wrist incident!!!
You still have one good hand to ride with :)
 

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switchback said:
You still have one good hand to ride with :)
Well, I can handle the clutch very nicely, but having a hard time making "vroom-vroom" noises with my right hand. Getting better every day though!!!
;D
 

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Glad to hear you are on the mend Rod. Should be more than ready when the Tenere shows up.
 

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My pair of solo prime arrived. I might mount them on my WRR until fall when the ST arrives.

Top notch customer service from Serena at visionxsuupertore.com / superduty-hq.com, by the way. I noticed the parcel was shipped requiring a signature so I called UPS to hold it in town rather than trying to deliver (I'm 30 minutes out of town and knew I wouldn't be here so wanted to save them the trip). UPS is setup so they won't hold a package, at the receivers request, until the first delivery attempt is made. UPS recommended I call the sender and have them call UPS to put a hold on it. Seemed like a lot of run around and I was tempted to just let UPS attempt delivery and me not be here, but I emailed Serena and within 10 minutes she emailed back that she called UPS and the package would be held, at the UPS office, for pickup. Top notch!
 

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Chad, did your lights include any instructions?
 

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FWIW, I have the Denali lights which I believe are the same as the VisionX lights that are 2" squares. Not sure which of the kits offered here, uses those. But anyhow... I installed the Denalis on my NT. I used the more tightly focused of the two lenses they come with. They are brighter than my headlights. The light shines slightly farther up the road than my low beams, and considerably wider; I don't think I'd even be able to tell if my low beams went out entirely, while running these Denalis. The high beams cast light a little farther than the Denalis, but not much farther, and the Denalis fill in and spread it to the sides a lot more. The beam pattern isn't just wide, it is high. Road signs that I might not even be able to see with my normal headlights, are as bright as a burning city with the Denalis.

I have them mounted high, above my headlights and far apart. I have tested them by riding around on country roads close to town, where there are regular oncoming cars, and none of them have EVER flashed their high beams at me. So I don't think they are bothering oncoming traffic nearly as much as I would expect, given the way they illuminate. What does bother people, is when I run them in town, and pull up behind a car at a light. They illuminate the whole interior of the cars, and I see the drivers reach up and adjust their rear view mirrors. So I try to remember to turn them off in town, after dark. I often run them in the city in full daylight, just to make myself more visible, though.

Here is a picture of them lit up: http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/katherinebecker/NT700V/denali_lights.jpg
Here is a picture of them when they're turned off: http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/katherinebecker/NT700V/shield_low_front.jpg
Here is a close-up of one of the lights: http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/katherinebecker/NT700V/denali_mount.jpg
 

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Chad,
Thanks for the link!!!! All printed out and placed alongside the lights/harness - waiting for my SuperT to mount them on!!!!!!!

Rod
 
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