Oil Change

[ptfjjj]

The trick is to fill the filter with oil and place in liquid nitrogen for an hour. Then (with gloves), quickly screw in the filter. Use a heat gun to warm up the filter and proceed as normal. Btw, special "motorcycle" liquid nitrogen from the dealer may cost more, but better than generic liquid nitrogen. This is all 100% true because I read it on the Internet from some guy that doesn't actually own a motorcycle, but his brother told him this is the right way to change a filter...

Actually, you could fill the filter up to the top with oil and install it without spilling a drop. How? you ask. Just get one of those pit bull strapless restraint thingies and put your bike on a tilt table, then tilt the bike nose down until the engine is facing straight down, and Viola! just screw on your oil filled filter.

Now, who can say "oil filled filter fitter" five times fast.

 

[rem]

I think you're all full of used oil. The simplest way - BY FAR - is just to purchase the pre-filled oil filters from your dealer, or favorite third party distributor. They are filled with your choice of oil, syn or for real, sealed with an organic non-polluting quasi plasticoid seal which will dissolve almost immediately upon contact with the engine oil, thus freeing the contents of the oil filter and putting the filter itself into service.


I believe they are called SpOILERS. They come in different colors, as well, and some have iconic graphics on the sides and end. They are quite the craze among the more sophisticated biking circles. R

 

[tomatocity]

Guessing this banter is a result of Full Moon Withdrawal. So many good ideas but they only last a week. spOilers, that is a good one.

 

[colorider]

sealed with an organic non-polluting quasi plasticoid seal

Just a word of caution as this reminds me of something that happened to me......

The Desno/OEM filters come with a thin, clear plastic seal over the business end of the filter - presumably to keep out dirt and such. The correct way to remove this seal is to peel it off. Do not poke your finger through the center hole to get it off. DAMHIK

 

[Koinz]

Just a word of caution as this reminds me of something that happened to me......

The Desno/OEM filters come with a thin, clear plastic seal over the business end of the filter - presumably to keep out dirt and such. The correct way to remove this seal is to peel it off. Do not poke your finger through the center hole to get it off. DAMHIK

You're supposed to take that off :question: ???

 

[tomatocity]

Just a word of caution as this reminds me of something that happened to me......

The Desno/OEM filters come with a thin, clear plastic seal over the business end of the filter - presumably to keep out dirt and such. The correct way to remove this seal is to peel it off. Do not poke your finger through the center hole to get it off. DAMHIK

Clear plastic seal ???

Joe King )

 

[roy]

I will continue to fill my filters. It takes 5 seconds, no spilling, I can't see how this could be bad or a negative in any way, no oil light at all on my S10 when primed, on a Suzuki if you don't do it the oil light stays on until the flow of oil reaches something presumably the oil filter, filling the filter equal no oil light on a Zook as well, how can that be bad?

Continue to do as you like but I will continue this practice and many more strange maintenance rituals I use when wrenching on these things. BTW never had a oil related engine failure in over 30 years.

Carry on..........

 

[rem]

I have never done this before, but I certainly will from now on. Makes a lot of sense to me. I mean, I can do it, or I can wait for the engine to do it. Sounds like a no-brainer to me, and if you ask my wife, I certainly fall into that category. R

 

[colorider]

Never have pre-filled a filter, but cannot say if I will or if I won't in the future.

These sort of decisions are not easy to make.......

 

[fredz43]

I agree, if it makes you feel good, go for it. Like chicken soup, couldn't hurt and might help. ;D

OTOH, I haven't done it in 50 + years of doing my own oil changes on bikes and never had an oil related failure.

 

[colorider]

I haven't done it in 50 + years of doing my own oil changes on bikes and never had an oil related failure.

Damn your old Fred!!!! (only been 43+ for me, but I didn't get my first bke until I was 23yo)...............

 

[fredz43]

Damn your old Fred!!!! (only been 43+ for me, but I didn't get my first bke until I was 23yo)...............

Uh, I must have mis typed. It was 20 years, yeah, that's the ticket, 20 years. ;D

 

[tomatocity]

Good to see I am not the Elder of this group with a startup year of 1947. I have filled oil filters but never on a motorcycle. This will change tomorrow when I change oil and filter for the 2,000 mile mark. Reminds me to go get oil and filter.

 

[markjenn]

...how can that be bad?

Nobody said it was bad. What a few of us have said is that there is no evidence that it is good either.

- Mark

 

[roy]

Nobody said it was bad. What a few of us have said is that there is no evidence that it is good either.

- Mark

But can you prove that,,,,,,only the oil light coming on or staying on can prove that. I would rather it not come on.

 

[Twisties]

- There are two drain plugs and two crush washers, correct?

Yes, two drain plugs and washers. 17ft/Lb torque for both.

- The drain plugs are removed and oil drained while on the side stand?

Yes, remove both and drain on side stand or center stand. I started on the center stand and then when it looked like it was done I put it on the side stand to get a little more out.

- The oil is filled while on the center stand?

Yes, re-torque the drain plugs and fill on center stand.

- Quarts of oil used for an oil change?

3.4liters with filter change.

- Oil filter, various?

Yamaha - 5GH-13440-20 (2.5"), there are others available. Check Dallara's thread in Tech for a list.

Change your final drive oil too. Hypoid gear oil API-GL5. I used Spectro. .2 liters. Both drain plug and filler plug torque to 17ft/lbs.

The oil drain plugs are to be torqued to 20 Nm or 14 ft-lbs (17 ft-lbs stated above is incorrect)
They use a copper crush washer (gasket) 90430-12213

The oil filter, part number above is correct, and is torqued to 17 Nm or 12 ft-lbs

The final drive fill and drain plugs are torqued to 23 Nm or 17 ft-lbs
The final drive fill and drain plugs both take a spark plug like crush washer 214-11198-01

Someone asked about a funnel somewhere. This is what I did. Worked great.

 

[rem]

that's a good picture but ..... you really should have used a black funnel. Just sayin' .... O R

 

[Twisties]

that's a good picture but ..... you really should have used a black funnel. Just sayin' .... O R

Dang, you're right :lamp: )

 

[tomatocity]

that's a good picture but ..... you really should have used a black funnel. Just sayin' .... O R

You are absolutely correct... and send me the Blue funnel

Good idea on the funnel and removing the side panel for clearance. I will use your suggestion tomorrow.

 

[behindbars]

I've been using these for years. Eliminates the hassle of funnels in tight spaces, has a built in valve to control flow rate and comes with an adapter for different sized bottles. Another advantage is that you can squeeze the bottle to force the oil out-MUCH faster than using a funnel. Most auto parts stores carry them (Autozone, etc).

http://www.hopkinsmfg.com/10106.html