Mikef5000
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Aaaaaand that would explain the nationwide back-order right now ::010::.Tiger_one said:
Mine will hopefully be shipping out tomorrow! ::015::
Heidenau k60 Scouts
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My current (stock) rear Bridgestone is at 10,500 miles, and isn't quite to the wear bars yet, but it's taken 3 nails, and one of the plugs is now leaking about 10-20 PSI a day.
I'm PUMPED for the K60's!
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Better is in the eye of the beholder. I suspect that they offer the 140 because it has the older tread pattern w/o the center rib. Some of the off roadish guys have said that it digs better in the soft stuff than the 150 with the rib. I have both in the garage at the moment, but the 140 is for the wife's F650GS, (if it ever comes back from the dealer after this weekend's meltdown).Tenerator12 said:
I would suspect it comes down to what kind of stuff you ride in? Loose or muddy, maybe the 140 is worth a try. Lots of pavement and hard, rocky soil, the 150 is the normal size for the bike, after all. I think the 150's tread patter is better on pavement. I ride mostly pavement, but really, really enjoyed the K60s last Saturday at 2 am when I was riding up the 6 miles to the Earthquake faults off Hwy 50 in Nevada, (near Middlegate), to take a picture during an endurance rally. Oh Baby! TCS2 and K60s were meant for each other! ::013::
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This was worth significantly more!
6 miles, of which 5 was really nice dirt/gravel and the last mile was nasty, eroded, loose stuff with the erosion ridges at 45 degree angles to the road, criss-crossing up the steep slope. No problem with the K60s. I went in at 35 mph, and out at 50 mph. Big silly grin on my face at 0230 in the dark with the HID and high beams all on, tearing it up with no one else around for miles.
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LOL, I know where that is! I've never been on something that I could explore with. There are a bunch of 'glyphs out there too that I'd like to see. Hmmm, next long weekend is when...EricV said:I ride mostly pavement, but really, really enjoyed the K60s last Saturday at 2 am when I was riding up the 6 miles to the Earthquake faults off Hwy 50 in Nevada, (near Middlegate), to take a picture during an endurance rally. Oh Baby! TCS2 and K60s were meant for each other! ::013::
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And I think that is one of the key reasons I keep putting on K60s, it lets me explore places that I might not have taken the bike with more street oriented rubber and I just go, instead of think about going and wondering if it will be ok or not. The S10 certainly is part of that mix too, as is the great tire life of the K60s.Don in Lodi said:
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+1EricV said:
mine shipped about 3 days ago after being on back order for a couple of weeks. Jackson was busy with world travels, so I bit the bullet and ordered from twisted throttle.
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Heidenau set #2 will be coming off today at almost exactly 8k miles. The rear has 4.5 mm of tread left, and the front has 4 mm. My impression is that while these would be safe for highway riding for a long time yet, they are becoming uncomfortable for mountain riding. In the heat, 90 F +, in the mountains, they seemed slippery to me. Cornering is not confident. I am aching to get them off. They were, however, performing wonderfully in the dirt with this wear. I think I will remount the oem Tourance EXPs. for comparison. I watched carefully for cracks, and maintained the tires at 33 psi front and 36 psi rear regardless of riding surface. Some light cracks developed after riding over some rocky surface at about 30-40 mph, unloaded, at 7k miles into the pair. I am very satisfied with these tires as a true 50/50 solution with great tread life and value. However, right now I need something more hoon worthy for some mountain street riding.
Those tires look great and if I road dirt, they would be the ones I would use..Twisties said:Heidenau set #2 will be coming off today at almost exactly 8k miles. The rear has 4.5 mm of tread left, and the front has 4 mm. My impression is that while these would be safe for highway riding for a long time yet, they are becoming uncomfortable for mountain riding. In the heat, 90 F +, in the mountains, they seemed slippery to me. Cornering is not confident. I am aching to get them off. They were, however, performing wonderfully in the dirt with this wear. I think I will remount the oem Tourance EXPs. for comparison. I watched carefully for cracks, and maintained the tires at 33 psi front and 36 psi rear regardless of riding surface. Some light cracks developed after riding over some rocky surface at about 30-40 mph, unloaded, at 7k miles into the pair. I am very satisfied with these tires as a true 50/50 solution with great tread life and value. However, right now I need something more hoon worthy for some mountain street riding.
My last tires were Conti trail attacks, and they were really great on the road and I had mucho confidence in them. I only got 7k out of them, but a trip to CO and the heat going and coming was hard on them.. The rear did square off pretty good toward the end.
I have put Bridgestones on and the steering feels a little heavy and the bike does not transition as well as the Conti.
Let us know, if you don't mind, what your next set of new tires do.
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I've seen a couple of these tires on bikes and the rear looks to have an extremely flat profile. Is this how they originally are or is this just from the riding the users are doing?
They are not so flat when new, but no matter how much some of us try, it's not possible to wear down the sides at the same rate as the middle ;Dklebs01 said:
I just removed my rear at 10,500 miles, still with a couple of thousand left in it but getting pretty square. Not handling too bad though. I put the (still new) original bridgestones back on, in the bit of riding around town I've done so far it doesn't seem dramatically better handling. K60's are going back on when the Bridgies are worn out!
They start round. 11 mm rear. Mine were at 4.5 rear when I took the photos above. Figure next to nothing off the edges and 6.5 mm off the center. I was riding in the Rockies at a pretty fair rate of speed and heat. It was really the first time I was unsatisfied with the ride of the K60's. I do attribute it to the wear and heat.klebs01 said:
I now have about 60 miles on the Bridgestone Battlewings that were the oem tires on Sharon's bike. She had about 600 miles on them when they came off for the Yukon/Alaska trip on the K60's. I would have to say, in comparison to the worn K60's, that the BWs are far superior in the mountains for hooning. I don't remember feeling the K60s were a step down when I first put them on, however. All in all, for mixed street/dirt I would certainly put K60's back on. The K60's work very well in the dirt, and are certainly reasonable on the street.
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This weekend I rode my K60 equipped bike back to back with my wife's Anakee equipped Tenere. Both rear tires have nearly identical mileage about 4,600 miles. The Anakee front has 4,600 and the K60 front has 9K. All tires have a lot of life left in them.dcstrom said:
I was expecting the Anakees to be much smoother. Didn't happen. On the pavement I could not notice any significant difference between the two tires. Granted, the K60s are completely broken in at this point, but still I expected something.
I had been hesitant to put K60s on my wife's bike and was leaning towards keeping her on the more street oriented Anakee. After this experience I'm having to rethink that plan.
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Good to know. I don't have many miles on my K60's but do your tires track on concrete highways? Not a real problem since it keeps the ride newDirt_Dad said:
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Rode a lot of miles on New York State concrete highways last month. Didn't notice anything different about the K60. Concrete highways suck no matter what kind of tire you're using.tomatocity said:Good to know. I don't have many miles on my K60's but do your tires track on concrete highways? Not a real problem since it keeps the ride new
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Just got a set fitted today, and they are surprisingly smooth when not in the vibey range between 30 and 40KPH. I found turn-in to be quite a bit quicker than that of the OEM Battle Wings.Dirt_Dad said:
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The fun times will begin TONIGHT!
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Alright! I've got 1000 miles on them now, covering EVERY type of 'road' imaginable... the ultimate test, you might say. Here are my notes:
Below 5 mph they have a wiggle.
At 25 mph they vibrate.
At 75 mph they howl.
On pavement they are, well, not confidence inspiring when pushed hard. Through a smooth corner, steady on the throttle, they can be pushed to the very edge of the tread (I have 0 chicken strips left front or rear), BUT, there is no room for error... any adjustment in the throttle, or body movement, or road irregularity, will cause the tires to shift/squirm substantially. I never really had a scare or slide, but they were worrisome when pushed that hard. Keep in mind, I was pushing them hard... hard hard... attempted knee dragging, and playing cat and mouse with sport bikes hard.
On wet pavement they are even less confidence inspiring, but they still stick. The feel is just, poor, I guess.
On hard packed dirt and gravel I whaled on these things. I've got to give more credit to the bike than the tires (TC2 and ABS for the win), but together, man did we rock the West Virginia county roads. Tons of power-sliding, wheelying off up hills, and ABS sliding into corners.
Sloppy mud they did surprisingly well! TC2 helped here as well, but the tires did their thing. The only issues I had were on solid, hard packed wet mud/clay. That solid center rib might as well be a race slick when the tire can't sink in at all.
The tire does not have enough bite to wheelie off-pavement without the assistance of an uphill (just a fun-fact).
All that being said, I see myself using these tires for the foreseeable future. They're a great compromise in all aspects. The wiggles/vibrations/howl don't bug me one bit. The pavement uneasiness is only apparent when pushed hard, which I don't do often. Normal pavement riding they work fine, they're enjoyable off pavement, and they (should) last. Good enough for me!
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Below 5 mph they have a wiggle.
At 25 mph they vibrate.
At 75 mph they howl.
On pavement they are, well, not confidence inspiring when pushed hard. Through a smooth corner, steady on the throttle, they can be pushed to the very edge of the tread (I have 0 chicken strips left front or rear), BUT, there is no room for error... any adjustment in the throttle, or body movement, or road irregularity, will cause the tires to shift/squirm substantially. I never really had a scare or slide, but they were worrisome when pushed that hard. Keep in mind, I was pushing them hard... hard hard... attempted knee dragging, and playing cat and mouse with sport bikes hard.
On wet pavement they are even less confidence inspiring, but they still stick. The feel is just, poor, I guess.
On hard packed dirt and gravel I whaled on these things. I've got to give more credit to the bike than the tires (TC2 and ABS for the win), but together, man did we rock the West Virginia county roads. Tons of power-sliding, wheelying off up hills, and ABS sliding into corners.
Sloppy mud they did surprisingly well! TC2 helped here as well, but the tires did their thing. The only issues I had were on solid, hard packed wet mud/clay. That solid center rib might as well be a race slick when the tire can't sink in at all.
The tire does not have enough bite to wheelie off-pavement without the assistance of an uphill (just a fun-fact).
All that being said, I see myself using these tires for the foreseeable future. They're a great compromise in all aspects. The wiggles/vibrations/howl don't bug me one bit. The pavement uneasiness is only apparent when pushed hard, which I don't do often. Normal pavement riding they work fine, they're enjoyable off pavement, and they (should) last. Good enough for me!
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