I see those guys are still waiting patiently for news of the first Super Tenere major malfunction ::025::GrahamD said:That only happens in ten or so units a year. It just happened, by chance, to occur on the review bike. Very rare indeed you know. :
CycleWorld comparo Feb issue ... FYI
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::025::dcstrom said:
In the same issue of Cycle World there is a great article about a young German guy that sold everything and bought a Super Tenere to ride around the world on. 60 thousand miles later and he has been around the world twice on a very stock ST ( with Leo Vince pipe and aftermarket aluminum luggage ) and has had ZERO mechanical problems. Routine maintenance and lots of tires and that's it.
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Nice find.dcc46 said:
Thanks for posting that up.
Three things popped out for me.
1) They mentioned that the BMW was Ok off road as long as you kept it on the boil. Which is what the Australian Dirt Bike Mag said (GSA). They said it was like a Rhino. Keep it charging and it will plow along through anything.
2) The YAMAHA sits between the KTM and GS off road, but is almost up top the GS on road.
3) This also agrees with what the South Africans say. GS if you are are mostly street, S10 if you do off road. KTM for lot's of dirt.
So after all the reading I have done from owners impressions, and particularly those that own all three, this agrees.
Three things popped out for me.
1) They mentioned that the BMW was Ok off road as long as you kept it on the boil. Which is what the Australian Dirt Bike Mag said (GSA). They said it was like a Rhino. Keep it charging and it will plow along through anything.
2) The YAMAHA sits between the KTM and GS off road, but is almost up top the GS on road.
3) This also agrees with what the South Africans say. GS if you are are mostly street, S10 if you do off road. KTM for lot's of dirt.
So after all the reading I have done from owners impressions, and particularly those that own all three, this agrees.
Has he got a blog/site/name?kgfire said:
Fun video.
It is very interesting that CW is saying the S10 is the decidedly better dirt bike and the BMW better on the street. The other comparison tests we've seen (three as I recall) have been the exact opposite. I think this mainly shows how well-matched these machines and how this is mostly a matter of rider preference. They're all great choices. From essentially one bike choice a little over a decade ago, we now have an embarrassment of choices with more in the pipeline. Great days for adventure riders.
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It is very interesting that CW is saying the S10 is the decidedly better dirt bike and the BMW better on the street. The other comparison tests we've seen (three as I recall) have been the exact opposite. I think this mainly shows how well-matched these machines and how this is mostly a matter of rider preference. They're all great choices. From essentially one bike choice a little over a decade ago, we now have an embarrassment of choices with more in the pipeline. Great days for adventure riders.
- Mark
::008::markjenn said:
It's funny that the one thing that delayed my purchase of the Super Tenere was all the reviews that said the engine was too vanilla and lacked character. Cycle World felt the engine had lots of character .
Go figure.
Go figure.
Good video. Could it be the Yamaha is finally getting its due because they tested the superior Raven?
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Nope....they wanted to show that even the inferior Raven is vastly capable!Brntrt said:
Maybe that's why the tests vary. The blue ones are more street than the Raven ones. It's a secret covert test by YAMAHA.stevepsd said:Nope....they wanted to show that even the inferior Raven is vastly capable!
It's the red springs that do it.
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Thanks for the video MR dcc46.. ::026::
ST wheelie woulda been nice. But far easier on the KTM.20valves said:I wanted to see the wicked stand up wheelie on the Yamaha.
Nice vid, much better than watching on the phone.
Almost certainly the case. Mine is very fast.
53 year old fat guy and wheelies on my 950 are effortless. Solely a right wrist event.
On the ST it is TC off and some coaxing of weight shift and wrist timing. She does it though.
A buddy that I ride with often has seen the KTM, the SV, and the VTR reaching skyward from behind. (I can be a hooligan when traffic is scarce. shoot me. ^-^ )
The first time the ST stood up he said "holy cow! That beast is HUGE in the air"
I gotta be honest. I don't enjoy this bike in that way though. It makes me behave.......different than all the other bikes. Completely different mission. I don't ever want to get there. I just want to keep going.
Great video, by the way.
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No problem posting the video, I figured you all would want to see it ::004::
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I'm looking at the S10 as my potential next bike, but the RBW is a little disconcerting.
What's everyone's opinion about this quote "We love almost everything about the Yamaha but the YCCT...system" and then it
goes on about the two modes, the S mode is slightly languid but then wakes up with a bang...
"The soft-hard-soft character makes the bike very difficult to ride smoothly." Not exactly a glowing recommendation. They go on to say
that the T mode is manageable but feels dull. Again, damning with faint praise.
Much ado about nothing? A relatively easy fix with a few mods? or should I ::021::
I've never owned a bike with RBW, (really see no need for it) so I'm a little concerned. I have the same issue with the new Triumph Explorer.
What's everyone's opinion about this quote "We love almost everything about the Yamaha but the YCCT...system" and then it
goes on about the two modes, the S mode is slightly languid but then wakes up with a bang...
"The soft-hard-soft character makes the bike very difficult to ride smoothly." Not exactly a glowing recommendation. They go on to say
that the T mode is manageable but feels dull. Again, damning with faint praise.
Much ado about nothing? A relatively easy fix with a few mods? or should I ::021::
I've never owned a bike with RBW, (really see no need for it) so I'm a little concerned. I have the same issue with the new Triumph Explorer.
I ride the S10 everyday. All weather. No matter what.TexasMule said:
It IS my first "fuely", so I can tell it is very different than all my carb bikes. And although I LOVE the throttle on a nicely carbed bike, it takes GREAT PAIN to get them that way. The 06 SM950 is perfectly carbed now and is much more "fluid?" than the S10. But again, it took a lot of effort to get it that way. (AND, because it is carbs, it comes with all the pains of carbs..elevation changes....the sin of not riding it enough and then letting the carbs gum up.....etc)
I said all that to say this: Maybe they aren't thrilled with the fueling on the stock S10. And maybe even their remarks are valid. But maybe you are reading too much into it.
It obviously is FAR from a deal maker\breaker for those of us who make up this forum. We are the ones that bought the S10 anyways!
Compared to a Strom 1000, I didn't notice a thing over a test ride or two.TexasMule said:
If you hadn't mentioned it, it wouldn't have known. Too many things that were better to notice. In fact One ride was on a YAMAHA ride day and I got to ride a few bikes, and the fueling on all bikes was one of the things I was impressed with.
So I'm confuised by that one. (I Always had the bike in S and TC2 by the way. I was having too much fun to stuff around)
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Graham