AWESOME POWER with PCV and AT, install with pictures ! ! ! !

[~TABASCO~]

Here is walk though of the installation of the ARROW headers, PCV & auto tune. Let me first say this, (these where my experiences on my bike) when I first performed the air screw and the CO settings it made a really nice difference in rideability. Smoother with better throttle response. I rode that for about two weeks. I then moved over to the PCV (power commander V) with my Akrapovic can and stock headers. This was playing around with a few maps from Blue-Eyes and Speed. This was a NICE difference above the AS and CO settings. Smoother, even better throttle response, more POP with power, the bike felt more sharp.
In the last few days I installed the ARROW headers and the Auto tune. It took about twenty miles for it to start 'working' and changing the map. I only know this by feel and sound, exhaust, Etc. Now after about fifty miles (and it has just started to really tune) this thing is a monster. Its a whole new machine. Right off the bottom its like you touch the throttle and POW, its alive. Its THERE ! The rev's come up quite a bit faster too. I have noticed that when you roll the throttle on or even get on it harder it is way more 'snappy'. I could go on about what the bike feels like, or the specifics on the differences but I can tell you all that this set up is BAD ASS, and is a HUGE difference than stock.. HOLY COW... I have the parameters at +-30% right now and I don't have that many miles on the new set up and its already a big change. Over the next few months I will work on letting the AT & PCV learn and I will bring down the AFR +- 20% then maybe 10% to fine tune. When this is all dialed in its just freaking bad ass.. Here are a few pictures Etc.. If you have any questions just let me know...

Here is the bung being positioned for the Auto Tune BOSCH O2 sensor.

Here it tacked in place on where it will be located. This is up and behind the rear of the motor.

If your under the bike and looking up this is where the bung and the sensor is located.

Another idea of where the O2 is sitting behind the motor.

PCV location

Auto Tune location

I brought my down load wire up under the seat so I can quickly plug into the the PCV. I can change maps or settings in about three minutes. I can also do all this with out taking the side cover off.

I also added my battery tender hook up while I had it all apart and tucked it in right behind the frame when not in use.

And the ARROW headers.

This bike is a usable power house that I absolutely love !

 

[SpeedStar]

Jaxon, that is a sweet setup. You got me thinking maybe I need to follow in your footsteps.
I too am very pleased with the difference so far. Once it gets dialed in, it will be even better.
Looking forward to more as you go. Way to go man! ::26::

 

[Blue_eyes]

Thanks for posting this Jaxon! Do you only need one extra O2 sensor for the autotune? I thougth the XT1200Z needed two extra, so 4 in total?

So, did you get the AT-300 kit or the AT-200 kit? Was it all plug and play installing the O2 sensor and wiring? Or are there any special considerations when fitting it?

This is what Dynojet's website states:

Part #: AT-300

This Autotune Universal kit is designed for twin cylinder motorcycles/ATVs that use the Power Commander V allowing control of two cylinders simultaneously. The kit includes tow sensors and PCV connection harness.


Part #: AT-200

The second version is a "universal fit", single O2 sensor kit. It can be used on any vehicle that has a PCV installed on it. It comes with a single O2 sensor, "cut to length" sensor cable, control module, O2 sensor "weld on bung" and CAN connection cable. It requires a ground and +12 volt connection be made using the supplied Posi-Taps.

I am very interested in your final autotuned map! ::015::

 

[~TABASCO~]

Speed and I have found a GREAT guy over at Dyno-Jet.. I spent quite a bit of time with him on the difference between the two bung and single.. All things being considered I went with the 200 (single).. If this was a world champion race bike with 100+ hours on the DYNO he said I might get 1-2 more HP with the second set up by fine tuning each cylinder. He suggested I go with one. So far, SO FAR im really happy... The new name is "THE BEAST"....

You install the bung, the rest is plug-N-play.. You go to your PCV screen and turn on AT... Then go ride... That's it......


* NOTE:... it comes with a steel bung that will rust. I had to order a Stainless one to weld onto the Stainless headers...... They don't offer a Stainless bung... ::007::

 

[SpeedStar]

I assume you will be stocking these stainless bungs? Plans to offer this mod to the headers for those that want to order them from you?
I like the location you picked too. Also, good idea on leaving the USB cable connected so you don't even have to remove the side panel to access the PCV.

 

[~TABASCO~]

Sure... I can do all that. I sell the ARROW headers. Ill check to see if I can sell the whole set up to other people that might want the same set up. For sure on the bungs. ::008:: Its a bad-momba-jomba ! ::26::

 

[SisuTen]

Sure... I can do all that. I sell the ARROW headers. Ill check to see if I can sell the whole set up to other people that might want the same set up. For sure on the bungs. ::008:: Its a bad-momba-jomba ! ::26::

Quite a while ago, I posted up that the PCV and Autotune was the way to go. I kinda got blown out with people saying it wasn't the answer. It's nice to be vindicated...finally. Thanks for your great work! I'll be in touch.
Paul

PS. Works great on a Versys, too

 

[Blue_eyes]

Sure... I can do all that. I sell the ARROW headers. Ill check to see if I can sell the whole set up to other people that might want the same set up. For sure on the bungs. ::008:: Its a bad-momba-jomba ! ::26::

My thoughts! I just sent you an email requesting to send me a stainless steel bung as well! I'm gonna get me an autotune too!

Always perfect in tune!

BTW: I think most of the extra power you experience is due to the Arrow headers. Like I posted in my PC V topic, I found the difference (added power and responsiveness) that the Arrow headers bring just as big or even bigger than with the Akra slipon alone (with the OEM headers still attached).

That's why I call my bike Big White MotherF@cker! It really rocks! Now imagine having no power restriction in 1, 2, and 3 gear.... ::015:: ::015:: ::015::

 

[Bigbore4]

Question,
Does the Auto Tune stay on the bike? Or after a period of time and it has done it's work, is the PCV map "tweaked" and the Auto Tune can be removed?

And perhaps used on another bike?? That's my frugal side talkin...

 

[Blue_eyes]

Quite a while ago, I posted up that the PCV and Autotune was the way to go. I kinda got blown out with people saying it wasn't the answer. It's nice to be vindicated...finally. Thanks for your great work! I'll be in touch.
Paul

PS. Works great on a Versys, too

Hi SisuTen,

This was my rsponse to your post regarding the use of AutoTune:

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=1170.msg20026#msg20026

In all honesty I cannot define that as "got blown out with people saying it wasn't the answer."

The only reason why I did not go for the autotune was because I was told I would need 2 additional O2 sensors so a total of 4.

My last sentence even states: "So, the best next thing is to have a PowerCommander (it comes with 02 Optimizer for the XT1200Z) fitted by a Dynojet specialist and have him tune a map for you."

Hence, I did and do consider the AutoTune as the number 1 solution, but because of the 4 bungs did not consider it the most practical. Now that we have the option of using only one extra bung (in the part where the two headers come together) instead of two, the use of Autotune has become a viable option for me, as far as I am concerned.

I honestly never have the intention to "blow people's opinions out", I give my opinion and the reasoning behind it. And that still stands.

I hope I have not offended you, that was never my goal, my sincere apologies if I did. ::003:: ::020::

 

[SisuTen]

Hi SisuTen,

This was my rsponse to your post regarding the use of AutoTune:

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=1170.msg20026#msg20026

In all honesty I cannot define that as "got blown out with people saying it wasn't the answer."

The only reason why I did not go for the autotune was because I was told I would need 2 additional O2 sensors so a total of 4.

My last sentence even states: "So, the best next thing is to have a PowerCommander (it comes with 02 Optimizer for the XT1200Z) fitted by a Dynojet specialist and have him tune a map for you."

Hence, I did and do consider the AutoTune as the number 1 solution, but because of the 4 bungs did not consider it the most practical. Now that we have the option of using only one extra bung (in the part where the two headers come together) instead of two, the use of Autotune has become a viable option for me, as far as I am concerned.

I honestly never have the intention to "blow people's opinions out", I give my opinion and the reasoning behind it. And that still stands.

I hope I have not offended you, that was never my goal, my sincere apologies if I did. ::003:: ::020::

No worries, Blue!

I didn't mean it that way. I had experience with the PCV and Autotune (single lambda) on other bikes and it worked well. We in the US had no direct experience at the time and you did. I deferred to your expertise and experience and I still do.

I was excited that someone had worked the package out on this bike.

My intent was and is to get together with you and others to make this bike the best it can be. No apologies necessary...ever!

Paul

It sounds as if the combination of the Arrow system and the PCV/Autotune will produce substantial gains, and that is always good!

 

[Blue_eyes]

I'm really excited that AT can be used with just one extra lambda sensor, and that Jaxon has found a spot for it where it is not obtrusive.

That will save everyone a go to the dyno, and now every bike is indiviually tuned to perfection! ::014:: ::012::

 

[SisuTen]

Dyno time here in the US is not cheap. The Autotune would be more than paid for in one session.

 

[SpeedStar]

::026::

My local guy gets $300-350 per map. No discount either for second or third map at the same time, like baffle in / out, or fuel efficient map. AT could really be nice there too.

 

[spasm]

i opted out of auto tune, simply because if u dont use the same fuel all the time it has to start learning again, u would be surprised at the difference in fuel and its contents from the vast amount of suppliers, wot im saying is it takes a couple of tanks of fuel to learn,,,,, but thats ok if ur using the same gas station all the time

 

[~TABASCO~]

I'm really excited that AT can be used with just one extra lambda sensor, and that Jaxon has found a spot for it where it is not obtrusive.

That will save everyone a go to the dyno, and now every bike is indiviually tuned to perfection! ::014:: ::012::

Yep, and its always looking to make it better no matter the Temp, Etc... So far is awesome !

 

[Blue_eyes]

Jaxon, where exactly did you place the autotune module, I do not recognize the place in the picture...

The cable of the lambda sonde seems a bit short, so i wonder where you've hidden the AT module.

 

[~TABASCO~]

The unit is sitting just to the Right of the fuse block.. It is stuck to the inside wall. Its in both of the pictures.. The O2 is made by BOSCH and PC buys them that is made for some type of vehicle. It has two little mounting prongs that are designed to be pushed into the frame of a car or a metal mounting point. I trimmed those off for more room. It comes with a nice 'extension cord' that when mounded all up under the frame is the perfect length up to the AT unit. Total of 3-4 feet I guess... Keep in mind that the AT comes with a small cable about 4" long that has to be plugged into the PCV. So these tow units have to sit next to each other. My first plan was to tuck the new O2 into one of the cylinders down in that opening below the water pump. But after talking its best to have it installed where to the two exhaust meet up. Over all its an easy install. As I learn more about the soft ware this can be a quick set up or you can fine tune a bike till your cross-eyed. It has many features. I learned something about your map you sent me that you might not even know about, not having AT yet. Touch base with me Ill fill you in. Your probably missing some HP....

 

[Maybert]

Right on Jaxon, great work putting that together. I have been putting off getting a custom map for a few weeks now, and this setup will pay for itself. Speed is right about a custom map costing $300-350 out here in California (and no discount for repeat visits)

Last time I welded something was a wrought iron napkin holder in 7th grade, but luckily my buddy does it for a living

I think I watched too much Beevis and Butthead as a kid...I still smile every time I read the word "bung"

 

[~TABASCO~]

But first you have to drill a bung-hole.... We must be about the same age... The tube is about 18g Stainless. Just let him know that. Its a nice tuning device. I'm still learning this whole system. It can be as easy or as complicated as anyone might want. You can almost plug it in and go. Or you can tweak the hell out of it for what ever you might be into, Power, economy, smoothness, Etc...
My goal is to slowly work on a *Power map, then take that and use it to develop an *Economy map. When both of those are good I will install a switch on the PCV and I can switch between the two on the fly anytime...