Will you take the vaccine

[thughes317]

Ummm, it's pretty well reported.

Growing Share of Americans Say They Plan To Get a COVID-19 Vaccine – or Already Have

77% think vaccinations will benefit the economy.

www.pewresearch.org

Yep! Point being that while PEW and other research institutions are non-partisan, the media......not so much. We're all in this together so why create divisiveness by only reporting that "select segments" are refusing the vaccine? Mine was more a comment on biased media perpetuating a cultural divide than certain folks not wanting to get vaccinated.

And now back to our regularly scheduled thread.

 

[PhilPhilippines]

Ummm, it's pretty well reported.

Growing Share of Americans Say They Plan To Get a COVID-19 Vaccine – or Already Have

77% think vaccinations will benefit the economy.

www.pewresearch.org

Hardly comprehensive though. Nothing on African parrot owners with a 33" inside leg...

 

[SHUMBA]

Had my second Pfizer jab yesterday, no side affects whatsoever...

I'm in Canada (embarrassed to say)
I had my first Pfizer jab on April 3rd, it’s gone be long wait for second jab.
Ah, if only we had some capable leadership in our Country.
SHUMBA

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[regder]

I'm in Canada (embarrassed to say)
I had my first Pfizer jab on April 3rd, it’s gone be long wait for second jab.
Ah, if only we had some capable leadership in our Country.
SHUMBA

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I too got my first jab of Pfizer.

Canada is actually doing pretty well right now in terms of vaccinations, https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations. UK is probably the most notable on that leaderboard at 54% of population with one dose, US is at 47%, and Canada is at 45%. The next closest large country is Germany at 36%. We admittedly had a slow start, but have gained a lot of ground in the last month.

 

[Checkswrecks]

I guess this is good news for you Canadians.

https://flipboard.com/article/new-study-delaying-2nd-pfizer-covid-vaccine-dose-can-result-in-stronger-antibod/a-BsNZ_2AyTAylQ-t_Su2MAQ%3Aa%3A3483431165-61be21f37f%2Fflipboard.com

 

[Sierra1]

But. . . . it doesn't say (and they may not know) what percentage of the antibodies remained from the first dose. My understanding was that the second dose was to reinforce the body's ability to keep producing the antibodies. I have to assume that the body slowly ceases producing the antibodies over time. The above study's results don't advise how much remaining protection remained prior to the second dose. I also understand that the more time that passes, the more we learn. But, if Pfizer & Moderna say that the second dose should be administered 30 days later. . . . who am I to argue?

I saw on the media that the US has agreed to start sending the vaccines to other countries that need it since our demand is dropping. They also reported that all 50 states are seeing a dramatic decrease in cases & deaths.

 

[pooh and xtine]

My other half took part in a covid research study blood test last week to look at the existence and type of antibodies that people have. She had no antibodies despite having had jab#1 of the AZ vaccine 6 weeks previously.

 

[Eville Rich]

My other half took part in a covid research study blood test last week to look at the existence and type of antibodies that people have. She had no antibodies despite having had jab#1 of the AZ vaccine 6 weeks previously.

Don't know the details of that research, but apparently antibody tests are not necessarily an indicator of immunity. I'm not an expert I this area so really don't how it all works, but I found it interesting.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/05/16/995446986/coronavirus-faq-should-i-get-my-antibodies-checked-after-i-get-vaccinated

Eville Rich
2016 S10

 

[PhilPhilippines]

Don't know the details of that research, but apparently antibody tests are not necessarily an indicator of immunity. I'm not an expert I this area so really don't how it all works, but I found it interesting.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/05/16/995446986/coronavirus-faq-should-i-get-my-antibodies-checked-after-i-get-vaccinated

Eville Rich
2016 S10

If you spin around in an MRI scanner the magnetic antibodies are still working apparently...

 

[RIVA]

received my second Pfizer shot yesterday. So far, no ill effects.

 

[WJBertrand]

My other half took part in a covid research study blood test last week to look at the existence and type of antibodies that people have. She had no antibodies despite having had jab#1 of the AZ vaccine 6 weeks previously.

I guess that should not be too big a surprise. This is why they give a booster dose. Also, the way our immune systems work is very efficient. The system will not continue to crank out antibodies at high titers in the absence of the threat. Instead memory of they threat is stored in a population of new T cells that should have been created by the inoculation or actual infection. Those T cells will only make tiny amounts of the antibody, possibly not detectible, kind of like scouts, until the threat is detected. They will immediately switch into high output mode and take down the threat, usually before any symptoms appear. This is the important cellular immunity they talk about. As the article above mentions, an actual infection probably produces more than one type of antibody. The tests are pretty specific so if they're not looking for the right antibody, or in the case of Covid, the tests available lack sensitivity, such a result should not be too unexpected.

The other possibility is that the time between boosters is too long or she is one of the few that the vaccine did not work for? None of them are 100%.

 

[WJBertrand]

If you spin around in an MRI scanner the magnetic antibodies are still working apparently...

Huh?

 

[PhilPhilippines]

Huh?

There are some that think the jabs magnetise them, which of course it doesn't. It just completes the lobotomy that began with school dinners.

 

[regder]

There are some that think the jabs magnetise them.

This seems counterintuitive. May throw off the gps tracking chip.

 

[WJBertrand]

There are some that think the jabs magnetise them, which of course it doesn't. It just completes the lobotomy that began with school dinners.

Well since the MRI has a static background field of several Tesla, you won't spin anyway - you might get sucked in if you walk too close to it though...

 

[PineLaneRider]

Pfizer onboard, 2 doses. 2nd was 2 days ago. Zero side effects. Not even a sore arm on the 2nd shot.
Now if I can figure out what this little stub growing at the base of my spine is...

 

[Sierra1]

Just rub on it a little, and see what happens.

 

[pooh and xtine]

I guess that should not be too big a surprise. This is why they give a booster dose. Also, the way our immune systems work is very efficient. The system will not continue to crank out antibodies at high titers in the absence of the threat. Instead memory of they threat is stored in a population of new T cells that should have been created by the inoculation or actual infection. Those T cells will only make tiny amounts of the antibody, possibly not detectible, kind of like scouts, until the threat is detected. They will immediately switch into high output mode and take down the threat, usually before any symptoms appear. This is the important cellular immunity they talk about. As the article above mentions, an actual infection probably produces more than one type of antibody. The tests are pretty specific so if they're not looking for the right antibody, or in the case of Covid, the tests available lack sensitivity, such a result should not be too unexpected.

The other possibility is that the time between boosters is too long or she is one of the few that the vaccine did not work for? None of them are 100%.

Yes, I’m sure you’re right and it’s probably that the test is for antibodies from having been infected, rather than those produced by the vaccine - the literature didn’t say, which is a poor show because you’re bound to be concerned if you get a negative result. The gap between jabs for most here has been 12 weeks, but this has recently been reduced in the light of new variants emerging.

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . The gap between jabs for most here has been 12 weeks, but this has recently been reduced in the light of new variants emerging.

I understand that the reason for the extended gap between doses were to get as many people as possible at least partially protected. And, it probably worked to a certain extent. But. . . . historically, doing things "half-assed", usually doesn't end well. People have enough distrust for the vaccine already, and now it's not being used in the manner that it was developed, and approved for.

Not using antibiotics correctly is one of the reasons that we now have Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA).

 

[Tenman]

Just found out 30 minutes ago. my 84 yro ma has c19. She was in the hospital for a week. They release her 2 days ago. She immediately went downhill at home. She barely can hold her head up and try to talk a few words and fade out again. So I took her back to the hospital today. It's looking bleak. Almost stroke like symptoms. They tested her for covid tonight and found it. It looks to me like. They would immediately have tested her for covid 9 days ago. My fuckin 66 yro KNOW IT ALL brother and his 28 yro son are antivaxxer, no mask, no precautions deniers like RonH. They're on the "hell no I ain't getting it bandwagon". She probably got it from them. I'm gonna beat his ass if it takes my mom out. Probably gonna beat his ass anyway. I'll post pictures if I get any. I told both of them today before we got her diagnosis. That they are part of the fucking problem. Wonder what their BS excuse for not getting the shot will be now. I was a rude jerk and ask 4 employees at the hospital if they had got the shot. 2 25ish girls said no and went into a long fast explantion about why they didn't. They didn't appreciate me asking. I didn't care. I ask 2 45ish er ladies the same. They were both to proud to say yes. If anybody thinks this is gone for good. You are stupid. If this gets the scissors. Too bad.