Will you take the vaccine

will you take the vaccine

  • yes

    Votes: 91 37.0%
  • no

    Votes: 24 9.8%
  • maybe later

    Votes: 21 8.5%
  • heck no

    Votes: 30 12.2%
  • BTDT - Got the shot

    Votes: 80 32.5%

  • Total voters
    246
Status
Not open for further replies.
B

ballisticexchris

Guest
You can’t generalize from your local experience to the whole state. Compared to your reports, it’s as though I’m on a different planet. No picture IDs business cards or otherwise. My wife did have to prove she has a compromising health condition though.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
I think you and your wife were just lucky to get in at a perfect time. As you know when the vaccine roll out first started, up until a few weeks ago the rules of eligibility were changed almost daily. I was trying daily to get our family vaccinated to no avail for the last 2+ months.
 
B

ballisticexchris

Guest
I don't want to dirty up the Rally in Black Hills thread so I'll post this here;
I'm booked at the campground and planning on attending but I'll be selfishly maskless (Egad!) and recklessly vaccineless (Noooo!!) so obviously I'll leave a trail of dead bodies on my way there.
While at the Rally I'll try to avoid wandering into anyone's 'vaccine protected' site or getting dangerously close to the Group-think crowd so as not to exacerbate the already overcrowded hospitals ala the Navy Hospital ship that was in NY....
But anyone and everyone regardless of gender, race, religion, motorcycle brand, mask or maskless, vaccine or vaccineless, ATGATT or helmetless, is welcome to stop in at my site and visit. Maybe the overly fearful should put some garlic or a cross or something at the entrance to their site to keep out the independent thinkers....ummm I mean the unclean...
Why are you joking and making light of this? The educated folks will have nothing to do with this rally just for the reasons you brag about. You're not alone. This is the typical attitude of many rally riders around the country. I don't need to go 1300 miles across the country to get infected or infect someone else. We have selfish riders right here a few towns over doing the same thing every weekend. How about enjoy a solo ride or small group of tested and vaccinated friends? Is it really that important of a get together risk infecting yourself and/or other fellow riders? Especially when it's 100% preventable.

B7ADC465-0C59-4669-99D1-A7A5A8B0A282.jpeg
 

Tenman

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 7, 2013
Messages
2,121
Location
Natchez Ms USA
Why are you joking and making light of this? The educated folks will have nothing to do with this rally just for the reasons you brag about. You're not alone. This is the typical attitude of many rally riders around the country. I don't need to go 1300 miles across the country to get infected or infect someone else. We have selfish riders right here a few towns over doing the same thing every weekend. How about enjoy a solo ride or small group of tested and vaccinated friends? Is it really that important of a get together risk infecting yourself and/or other fellow riders? Especially when it's 100% preventable.

View attachment 78554
[/QUOTE — Even if their significant one croaks from it. They will already have an excuse to blame it on something else. It’s all fake news.
 
R

RonH

Guest
Thousands can go to Florida and do bike week without masks, thousands go to Sturgess with no masks. Nobody got the crap out of thousands. I would wager to bet at a Tenere gathering of 50 there is not a huge danger. Masks are great for halloween though. Too bad we are stuck in halloween for the next 5400yrs as masks do zero.
 

Tombstone

Stir the oil Baby!
Joined
Apr 22, 2018
Messages
507
Location
Utah
Why are you joking and making light of this? The educated folks will have nothing to do with this rally just for the reasons you brag about. You're not alone. This is the typical attitude of many rally riders around the country. I don't need to go 1300 miles across the country to get infected or infect someone else. We have selfish riders right here a few towns over doing the same thing every weekend. How about enjoy a solo ride or small group of tested and vaccinated friends? Is it really that important of a get together risk infecting yourself and/or other fellow riders? Especially when it's 100% preventable.
The joke is people who have gone into hiding and then accuse those who don't cower in their homes of 'selfishness'..... Its to late for me to stay home, I've been coast to coast on the bike twice since the china flu became a thing. I'm not going to stop living because of the fear mongering.
 

PhilPhilippines

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 20, 2020
Messages
952
Location
Philippines
I don't want to dirty up the Rally in Black Hills thread so I'll post this here;
I'm booked at the campground and planning on attending but I'll be selfishly maskless (Egad!) and recklessly vaccineless (Noooo!!) so obviously I'll leave a trail of dead bodies on my way there.
While at the Rally I'll try to avoid wandering into anyone's 'vaccine protected' site or getting dangerously close to the Group-think crowd so as not to exacerbate the already overcrowded hospitals ala the Navy Hospital ship that was in NY....
But anyone and everyone regardless of gender, race, religion, motorcycle brand, mask or maskless, vaccine or vaccineless, ATGATT or helmetless, is welcome to stop in at my site and visit. Maybe the overly fearful should put some garlic or a cross or something at the entrance to their site to keep out the independent thinkers....ummm I mean the unclean...
Well, at least you have a handle on things. It may be COVID covered handle on your open-door policy for fellow campers, but at least it is there for all to see...
 

thughes317

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 27, 2018
Messages
1,097
Location
The Bluegrass, KY
And I just found out at the vaccination site they are no longer giving vaccinations to those without a picture ID. Regardless of what our governor allows (business card with name and address). The rules are getting tighter. If you cannot produce picture identification showing that you are a California resident and US citizen you are turned away.
Does this not contradict your insistence all along that everybody needs to get vaccinated, even the "idiots that don't wear masks", in order to ensure that you and your family won't fall victim to these folks? I'm not trying to be a dick here (as i agree completely with your comments), just pointing out some perceived hypocrisy. ;-)
 
B

ballisticexchris

Guest
The joke is people who have gone into hiding and then accuse those who don't cower in their homes of 'selfishness'..... Its to late for me to stay home, I've been coast to coast on the bike twice since the china flu became a thing. I'm not going to stop living because of the fear mongering.
I honestly can care less what you or anyone thinks about my outlook on this. I have watched a perfectly healthy family member die from COVID and witnessed patient after patient getting wheeled into parking lot COVID tents on a respirator. This shit is real. I don't like but I am taking it seriously. And yes I have a healthy fear of it. Anyone who doesn't are just fooling themselves.

BTW, I have not stopped living either. We have simply adjusted to a lifestyle change and taking precautions like most anyone else. Those that are bragging about going maskless and hanging out in crowds obviously can care less about anyone. So why would anybody want to hang out with that kind of person?

Does this not contradict your insistence all along that everybody needs to get vaccinated, even the "idiots that don't wear masks", in order to ensure that you and your family won't fall victim to these folks? I'm not trying to be a dick here (as i agree completely with your comments), just pointing out some perceived hypocrisy. ;-)
Yes I would like it if everyone got vaccinated but I'm smart enough to know that it's not going to happen. My biggest complaint is the distribution of it for those that are at high risk. I consider my wife who is a renal patient and my 82 year old mother in law at a greater health risk and more deserving of the vaccine than an undocumented alien in my country illegally or convicted child molester on early release. If this makes me a hypocrite then so be it.

As long as we are vaccinated, wear masks, and distance ourselves, the risks are a lot less to get COVID. Those who are choosing to thumb their nose at this should be put at the back of the line for vaccine and let Darwinism take over.
 

SilverBullet

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 30, 2014
Messages
1,178
Location
Harmaston, TX
I don't want to dirty up the Rally in Black Hills thread so I'll post this here...
Trimmed the rest of your post, no need to repeat.

Important to note for all regarding the Black Hills Rally in USA. This rally is 4 months away. Anyone and everyone in the USA that wanted a vaccine will have already had their second shot (if required) and two weeks post waiting completed by then.

So original post was really unnecessary IMO. Personal choices are fine, mitigate risk as you see fit but no reason to post in that fashion merely to incite others. I hope I am able to attend the rally but if there will be two divided camps there maybe I'll take a pass this year. No need to take a podium and declare what your stand is. Just show up and enjoy the rally. If someone is worried about the risks pretty sure they wont be attending anyway.

Sent from my SM-A505U using Tapatalk
 

Tombstone

Stir the oil Baby!
Joined
Apr 22, 2018
Messages
507
Location
Utah
I honestly can care less what you or anyone thinks about my outlook on this. I have watched a perfectly healthy family member die from COVID and witnessed patient after patient getting wheeled into parking lot COVID tents on a respirator. This shit is real. I don't like but I am taking it seriously. And yes I have a healthy fear of it. Anyone who doesn't are just fooling themselves.
On another forum I frequent, I remember when someone posted the news links where the MSM reported that to wit, 'the hospitals were overflowing, ERs are packed...etc etc'
One of the more forward thinking people on that forum suggested that as many as possible go out the next day and take photos of as many ERs as they can. Several did just that, including me. Of all those photos from all across the country each one without exception showed an ER that looked like a ghost town. The only people visible were the bored and idle workers. I wonder if you actually saw "patient after patient wheeled into the parking lot" or you are just repeating what you heard on MSM (you know, the one you stopped believing in years ago).

BTW, I have not stopped living either. We have simply adjusted to a lifestyle change and taking precautions like most anyone else. Those that are bragging about going maskless and hanging out in crowds obviously can care less about anyone. So why would anybody want to hang out with that kind of person?
If you adjusted your lifestyle because of outside influence then you have stopped living your life, you are now living the life someone else has dictated to you.
Who is bragging about going maskless? I didn't bring up my maskless habit until I read the shittyness spread by the collective in this thread.

Yes I would like it if everyone got vaccinated but I'm smart enough to know that it's not going to happen. My biggest complaint is the distribution of it for those that are at high risk. I consider my wife who is a renal patient and my 82 year old mother in law at a greater health risk and more deserving of the vaccine than an undocumented alien in my country illegally or convicted child molester on early release. If this makes me a hypocrite then so be it.
We can agree on that. IMHO Anyone who wants the vaccine should get it, with those that have contributed to society being first in line.

As long as we are vaccinated, wear masks, and distance ourselves, the risks are a lot less to get COVID. Those who are choosing to thumb their nose at this should be put at the back of the line for vaccine and let Darwinism take over.
I've thumbed my nose and don't even want to be in line.
About half of my family has had the china virus and each has said its like a bad cold. A few neighbors have had it and say the same thing. They all recovered..... which is actually better than the almost 98% survival rate for those under 65 years old.

We'll have to pick this up in about a month, I'm going to ride a cross country loop from Utah to Texas then north a bit and home.
I admit while on this ride I might catch the china virus, I might get ran over by a texting driver, I might get hit by lightening, but I won't stop living until I'm actually dead.
 

WJBertrand

Ventura Highway
Joined
Jun 20, 2015
Messages
4,547
Location
Ventura, CA
How long is it going to take for health insurance companies to start putting a surcharge on your premium for those that refuse vaccination when not having a valid medical or religious reason? I know when I was a full-time regular employee, there was a higher health insurance premium for those that did not participate in the corporate healthy habits program. It's not much more of a leap to think they'll do that for vaccinations too and probably not just for covid.
 

Tombstone

Stir the oil Baby!
Joined
Apr 22, 2018
Messages
507
Location
Utah
Trimmed the rest of your post, no need to repeat.

Important to note for all regarding the Black Hills Rally in USA. This rally is 4 months away. Anyone and everyone in the USA that wanted a vaccine will have already had their second shot (if required) and two weeks post waiting completed by then.

So original post was really unnecessary IMO. Personal choices are fine, mitigate risk as you see fit but no reason to post in that fashion merely to incite others. I hope I am able to attend the rally but if there will be two divided camps there maybe I'll take a pass this year. No need to take a podium and declare what your stand is. Just show up and enjoy the rally. If someone is worried about the risks pretty sure they wont be attending anyway.

Sent from my SM-A505U using Tapatalk
I thought I was making a point, and as for inciting others apparently it depends on which side of the debate one finds themselves on. I have found many things said on this thread inflammatory.
 

WJBertrand

Ventura Highway
Joined
Jun 20, 2015
Messages
4,547
Location
Ventura, CA
California recently clamped down quite a bit on the philosophical exemptions as it was being heavily abused by the followers of Jenny McCarthy and the like. There have been measles outbreaks all over the country due to parents refusing to vaccinate their kids. Outbreaks like these haven't been seen for decades.
 

Checkswrecks

Ungenear to broked stuff
Staff member
Global Moderator
2011 Site Supporter
Joined
Mar 7, 2011
Messages
11,550
Location
Damascus, MD
Thousands can go to Florida and do bike week without masks, thousands go to Sturgess with no masks. Nobody got the crap out of thousands. . .
False
So many brought it back to Minnesota that their Governor criticized South Dakota for holding the rally.
Rates popped up elsewhere too.

But as somebody else pointed out, our rally will be in 4 months so those who want the shot will have had it.
 

WJBertrand

Ventura Highway
Joined
Jun 20, 2015
Messages
4,547
Location
Ventura, CA
The "Y" axis isn't labeled - what does 0.8 represent? 0.8 out of 100 would be .8% - that's much lower than even in Montana. What does "total population" mean? Total population by state? To me (at this point), this data is meaningless. It's a trend upward, but that's all that I can see.

What am i missing?
The Y axis is explained in the header it's the number of folks vaccinated per 100 per day. So yes, 0.8 indicates 0.8% / day. The chart shows an increasing vaccination rate as measured per100 people, you could pick any number of people and adjust the number e.g 10 per 1000 people per day. It's useful information. For example, my town has about 110,000 people if we are vaccinating 1 per 100 a day, you would next need to know the total number of people getting vaccines per day to work out the percentage vaccinated every day. Ventura county publishes this data daily, not sure about other counties. With this data (total population of a selected region or town and number of people per day) , you can estimate the percentage vaccinated. To get to the total percentage you'd have to add the folks that were vaccinated prior to the 2-week example period at the lower rates. I think this rate will continue to change as they open appointments for more and more groups, so the predictive power of that graph is limited.

This chart however is not really produced for that reason, it's simply showing the daily vaccination rate is increasing by state.
 

blitz11

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 23, 2014
Messages
320
Location
SW Montana
The Y axis is explained in the header it's the number of folks vaccinated per 100 per day. So yes, 0.8 indicates 0.8% / day. The chart shows an increasing vaccination rate as measured per100 people, you could pick any number of people and adjust the number e.g 10 per 1000 people per day. It's useful information. For example, my town has about 110,000 people if we are vaccinating 1 per 100 a day, you would next need to know the total number of people getting vaccines per day to work out the percentage vaccinated every day. Ventura county publishes this data daily, not sure about other counties. With this data (total population of a selected region or town and number of people per day) , you can estimate the percentage vaccinated. To get to the total percentage you'd have to add the folks that were vaccinated prior to the 2-week example period at the lower rates. I think this rate will continue to change as they open appointments for more and more groups, so the predictive power of that graph is limited.

This chart however is not really produced for that reason, it's simply showing the daily vaccination rate is increasing by state.
D'oh! Thanks. I stared (but obviously) didn't read it. It was a long day. After reading your post, i re-read it and it was RIGHT THERE. Not sure how I missed it, but proof that I don't have all the answers.
 

EricV

Riding, farkling, riding...
2011 Site Supporter
2012 Site Supporter
2013 Site Supporter
2014 Site Supporter
Joined
May 22, 2011
Messages
8,370
Location
Tupelo, MS
Got my second Pfizer shot today. Didn't even feel the needle go in, barely felt the vaccine injection. Kudos to the NG guy doing the jab. No soreness at injection site at this point, (13 hours later), better than the first shot. (whew, almost typo'd that as fist shot, which is a completely different thing, and I'm sure that would hurt!!). :eek: :D
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top