Will you take the vaccine

[MattR]

I am borderline elderly, but there has to be a limit to how much is spent on measures of dubious effectiveness trying to prolong the lives of octogenarians. We could have built 1000 acute hospitals in the UK for the £400 billion cost of lockdowns. How effective have lockdowns been? Have they saved any lives, or did they just prolong the period of time that the virus is around? The strategy has been driven by an expectation that any covid deaths are unacceptable, all risk must be eliminated at any cost. This is unrealistic, but western society is unable to have an adult conversation about death and our understanding of risk is woeful.

Let’s hope we don’t approach the next virus in the same way, like lemmings charging off a cliff.

Having waited for 8 hours outside a hospital with a seriously ill patient in the back of my ambulance with 15 ambulances queuing in front of me during the first lockdown, I shudder to think what it would have been like if we hadn’t locked down. 999 calls would have gone unanswered and we couldn’t have attended traffic accidents or anything else. And the good thing about the first lockdown was that there was little traffic on the roads so we could get from one end of the county to the other very quickly. Unfortunately I then went down with Covid and wasn’t at work during the second lockdown.


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[ballisticexchris]

Wowee!! I had a very fun morning and afternoon today. 1st stop was an appointment to get my every 5 year TSA and FBI Haz Mat security check through Universal Enroll. While I was there the young man was kind enough to allow me to get my TWIC card as well. This will mean full access with no escort to military installations, customs, all ports of entry in and out of the US, and no security checks at airports.

Then I drove over to get my first dose of vaccine. I have to say I was nervous only because of protesters the last few weeks in Anaheim blocking site entry to Disneyland.

Today was zero drama!! The Anaheim PD was at each edge of the driveway the full circumference inside and outside of the convention center. I spoke with a few of the vaccine officials and they said Anaheim PD is not going to allow protesters anywhere near the site. They are doing everything they can to make it a pleasant experience.

Very organized and smooth. After I got the shot I put my timer on for the 15 minute wait period and was able to enjoy a photo shot with the Anaheim Ducks Mascot. I even got a little swag doll of Humpus Lindgnome. The atmosphere was joyful with a music DJ and everyone was mellow. The social distance rules were followed and masks were worn by everyone.

 

[Scoop47501]

Got my second Phizer shot yesterday at 7:10 am. My arm was sore that afternoon and overnight but no worse than any other vaccine I had in the last year (Shingles,Hep A, Flu, Tetanus . I feel fine today and now the two week count down to freedom !

 

[ballisticexchris]

Once I get my second shot, I'm looking forward to visiting my parents. I have not hugged or kissed my mother or father for over a year.

My mom almost died last year because of the all the idiots who refused to follow the masking and social distance rules. Her heart bypass surgery was canceled and put off so the COVID patients could be treated. The saddest part of all this and what makes me angry are most that are getting COVID and dying are the innocent ones.

The goofballs that are getting it and spreading it are the healthy ones that don't even know they have it. I do not see this ever completely ending. Those few with health conditions or allergic reactions to the vaccine are going to continue to die off because of the selfish ones continuing to thumb their nose at keeping others healthy.

 

[pooh and xtine]

Having waited for 8 hours outside a hospital with a seriously ill patient in the back of my ambulance with 15 ambulances queuing in front of me during the first lockdown, I shudder to think what it would have been like if we hadn’t locked down. 999 calls would have gone unanswered and we couldn’t have attended traffic accidents or anything else. And the good thing about the first lockdown was that there was little traffic on the roads so we could get from one end of the county to the other very quickly. Unfortunately I then went down with Covid and wasn’t at work during the second lockdown.


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But you’re assuming that there would have been more cases if there had been no lockdown. This is entirely unproven. My point is that we should have at least considered saving, say, £300,000,000,000 (75%) by locking fewer people down and isolating the 5% vulnerable people instead of locking down all but essential workers.

 

[WJBertrand]

Got my second Phizer shot yesterday at 7:10 am. My arm was sore that afternoon and overnight but no worse than any other vaccine I had in the last year (Shingles,Hep A, Flu, Tetanus . I feel fine today and now the two week count down to freedom !

Yesterday marked 1-week from dose 2. Gonna be in pretty good shape for the weekend and as good as I'm going to get by Tuesday!

 

[MattR]

But you’re assuming that there would have been more cases if there had been no lockdown. This is entirely unproven. My point is that we should have at least considered saving, say, £300,000,000,000 (75%) by locking fewer people down and isolating the 5% vulnerable people instead of locking down all but essential workers.

I know this is the case because once lockdown was lifted it went berserk again.


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[ballisticexchris]

Yesterday marked 1-week from dose 2. Gonna be in pretty good shape for the weekend and as good as I'm going to get by Tuesday!

Hi there Jeff, Did you notice something very odd going on in just the last month in regards to distributing the vaccine in our area (Southern CA)? Reason I ask is just one month or so ago was next to impossible for anyone in my household including my 82 year old mother in law to get it.

Now we are all getting it without having to lie or cheat the system. My wife gets hers tomorrow at Davita. That means all three of us are all setup for the number 2 shot.

Also noticing a huge police presence at the testing and vaccination sites. Things are really seeming to go in our favor. I am noticing a lot more compliance to distancing and wearing masks as well.

Hospitals are calming down and appointments/surgeries are staying on track. The good 3M N95 masks are more readily available. If I did not know better I would almost say things are calming down a bit.

 

[WJBertrand]

Hi there Jeff, Did you notice something very odd going on in just the last month in regards to distributing the vaccine in our area (Southern CA)? Reason I ask is just one month or so ago was next to impossible for anyone in my household including my 82 year old mother in law to get it.

Now we are all getting it without having to lie or cheat the system. My wife gets hers tomorrow at Davita. That means all three of us are all setup for the number 2 shot.

Also noticing a huge police presence at the testing and vaccination sites. Things are really seeming to go in our favor. I am noticing a lot more compliance to distancing and wearing masks as well.

Hospitals are calming down and appointments/surgeries are staying on track. The good 3M N95 masks are more readily available. If I did not know better I would almost say things are calming down a bit.

No police presence at all, none, at any of the sites in the Ventura area that I noticed. I never tried to lie or cheat the system so I can't say that has changed or not. I think the vaccine supply has markedly improved though. When I got my first dose the new first dose appointments released on Monday mornings in Ventura would be gone inside of an hour. When I went to sign up Diane about an month later for her 1st dose, when she became eligible on 3/15, there were still available appointments for several days after and they didn't fill up until near the end of the week. My second dose appointment was easy too, I had multiple days and times to choose from, at least early in the week. Doesn't strike me as odd at all, just an improving situation.

 

[Sierra1]

Parkland Hospital in Dallas has closed all six of it's covid wards. Total cases in the hospital today were "in the low 20's". Interpret that as y'all want to.

 

[ballisticexchris]

Parkland Hospital in Dallas has closed all six of it's covid wards. Total cases in the hospital today were "in the low 20's". Interpret that as y'all want to.

Right on Robert. This is good to hear and mirrors what I'm hearing from family and friends around the country.

 

[PhilPhilippines]

Hi there Jeff, Did you notice something very odd going on in just the last month in regards to distributing the vaccine in our area (Southern CA)? Reason I ask is just one month or so ago was next to impossible for anyone in my household including my 82 year old mother in law to get it.

Now we are all getting it without having to lie or cheat the system. My wife gets hers tomorrow at Davita. That means all three of us are all setup for the number 2 shot.

Also noticing a huge police presence at the testing and vaccination sites. Things are really seeming to go in our favor. I am noticing a lot more compliance to distancing and wearing masks as well.

Hospitals are calming down and appointments/surgeries are staying on track. The good 3M N95 masks are more readily available. If I did not know better I would almost say things are calming down a bit.

Probably read your posts Chris and decided to pull their finger out...

 

[Checkswrecks]

Hi there Jeff, Did you notice something very odd going on in just the last month in regards to distributing the vaccine in our area (Southern CA)? Reason I ask is just one month or so ago was next to impossible for anyone in my household including my 82 year old mother in law to get it.

Now we are all getting it without having to lie or cheat the system. ...

Almost like the new Administration had the plan they said they had and followed through.
Note show California deliveries jumped at the end of February which was when you mentioned.

 

[bimota]

just heard this on the news

Headlines news . Meteorite to hit planet earth within 2 years . Vaccine is a must to avoid impact

rob

 

[WJBertrand]

Almost like the new Administration had the plan they said they had and followed through.
Note show California deliveries jumped at the end of February which was when you mentioned.

Well, the new administration will certainly claim credit for it, even if the ramp-up was already well underway, if barely started before. I'm skeptical anything the new administration did (especially this quickly) had much effect frankly.

 

[PhilPhilippines]

Well, the new administration will certainly claim credit for it, even if the ramp-up was already well underway, if barely started before. I'm skeptical anything the new administration did (especially this quickly) had much effect frankly.

Almost every politrickian will claim the same. It is in their DNA sadly...

 

[blitz11]

The "Y" axis isn't labeled - what does 0.8 represent? 0.8 out of 100 would be .8% - that's much lower than even in Montana. What does "total population" mean? Total population by state? To me (at this point), this data is meaningless. It's a trend upward, but that's all that I can see.

What am i missing?

 

[ballisticexchris]

What am i missing?

Not much at all. I recommend to just see what is going on around you and in your community. The charts, data and media is off the hook crazy. What I do know about my state with 100% certainty was just a few months ago the vaccine was in ample supply.

It was distributed to incarcerated, convicted and released criminals, homeless, and undocumented aliens before my wife and I were able to get ours. The only way for us to get it would have been to lie and deceive. Magically just a few days after our socialist piece of crap Governor Newsom was officially recalled I was approved for the vaccine and it was made available to us.

And I just found out at the vaccination site they are no longer giving vaccinations to those without a picture ID. Regardless of what our governor allows (business card with name and address). The rules are getting tighter. If you cannot produce picture identification showing that you are a California resident and US citizen you are turned away. The police are not putting up with the anti-vaccination freaks preventing those from getting it.

This is the first time since the pandemic started that I have been pleasantly pleased with how things are going. My extended family in Oklahoma is reporting a more organized distribution. They were already a very well oiled machine due to having the outstanding Governor Stitt running the state.

 

[WJBertrand]

You can’t generalize from your local experience to the whole state. Compared to your reports, it’s as though I’m on a different planet. No picture IDs business cards or otherwise. My wife did have to prove she has a compromising health condition though.


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[Tombstone]

I don't want to dirty up the Rally in Black Hills thread so I'll post this here;
I'm booked at the campground and planning on attending but I'll be selfishly maskless (Egad!) and recklessly vaccineless (Noooo!!) so obviously I'll leave a trail of dead bodies on my way there.
While at the Rally I'll try to avoid wandering into anyone's 'vaccine protected' site or getting dangerously close to the Group-think crowd so as not to exacerbate the already overcrowded hospitals ala the Navy Hospital ship that was in NY....
But anyone and everyone regardless of gender, race, religion, motorcycle brand, mask or maskless, vaccine or vaccineless, ATGATT or helmetless, is welcome to stop in at my site and visit. Maybe the overly fearful should put some garlic or a cross or something at the entrance to their site to keep out the independent thinkers....ummm I mean the unclean...