The End of the Super Ténéré..................

[Dogdaze]

Not being drawn into speculation, but I was talking the MFK (Swiss Vehicle testing) official yesterday and he said data he received on vehicles comes from manufacturers, and the S10 was not on the list for the coming year (2018), he said that this was generally an indicator that a model was being phased out and the cost to pass country emission standards or pay the levy was no longer viable. The BMW engines are all now EU4 standard by comparison the S10 was /is an EU2, not even EU3, so that meant the the manufacturer was paying 'fine' to import these machines. I know for a fact that Porsche pay the Swiss government 38,000 CHF ($40k) for every Porsche sold in Switzerland (of course this is eventually paid by the consumer) due to the high emissions on their cars.
So could this be the end of the current S10 or will they spend the money or R & D costs to make a 'new and improved' version that will pass EU4 emissions..........?
It may go a long way to explain why the only new bikes available seem to be held on dealer stock and they will not go out of their way to find one from another dealer as the dealers that have them have gone fully paid and with a massive discount from Yamaha.

 

[ThreePutt]

I've been afraid of this. Touratech has already stopped stocking parts for it, haven't they? I thought that was a bad sign.

 

[Dogdaze]

I've been afraid of this. Touratech has already stopped stocking parts for it, haven't they? I thought that was a bad sign.

I would not be worried, it just means that either they will come up with a new engine design or the used market may become scarce and values increase.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Ah yes, September is the "end of Tenere" month, just as they announce new models. We've seen before that when the other models have been announced, the unmentioned ones come out afterward as redesigns. While dropping is possible, we ought to know within a few weeks.

 

[~TABASCO~]

On that note, I recently read from MCN that KTM will be introducing two new 1190's for 17/18 (sorry I cant remember the year).... I wonder if emissions has anything to do with this? Spy photos are on the net and they are getting ready with two new bikes..... I suspect that if Yamaha has a new(er) Super Tenere coming out we will start to see spy photos on the net in the next six to twelve months. Who knows, keep ADV riding

 

[HeliMark]

With every other major manufacturer having a large displacement ADV bike, and continuing to update them, there is no way I could see Yamaha not staying in the market. My bet is a new engine (and major frame/electronics update) in the same displacement that meets current and future emissions. This is in addition to the "700" that is suppose to be coming out.

I was just thinking, maybe they are looking to put the triple in the bike for 2018????

Mark

 

[greg the pole]

hmmm....thank god I'm hanging on to mine for a few more years.
Most new Yamaha models are already EU4 compliant, but I doubt they did anything to the tenere as DD mentioned.

Wait and see.

meantime, I'm doing my part for the environment..riding my two stroke twice a week till the snow flies, and then studding the tires, and riding it some more.

 

[whipit]

I love my 13 Tenere,

 

[Super10NJ]

I've been around the block a few times in both the car and moto world and IMO the 1200 Tenere will be the stuff of legend in future. It has all the hallmarks, too big, too heavy, too tough, somewhat obscure. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to the average rider today and isn't on the lips of many moto journalists despite it being only a few years old. It's like a dinosaur in this modern world and it will only seem more so in the coming years. I have exotic bikes, I ride them for a few seasons and I sell them, but I'll be keeping my S10 for a long, long time.

 

[WJBertrand]

Could just be the european market they are leaving if indeed they are. EC regulations (not just for motor vehicles) have gotten so arduous that I think the cost to comply will cause many products to no longer be available to that market. I work in the Medical Device industry and we've already withdrawn some life saving devices from the EC and more will follow. This will deny many patients access to some technologies at worst and at best greatly increase costs. In countries with single payer medical systems, device prices are regulated. With no ability to recoup compliance costs, the only answer is the leave the market. I think the folks in Brussels have run out of useful things to do.

 

[Dogdaze]

Could just be the european market they are leaving if indeed they are. EC regulations (not just for motor vehicles) have gotten so arduous that I think the cost to comply will cause many products to no longer be available to that market. I think the folks in Brussels have run out of useful things to do.

Not just the EC, the US have been moving in that direction for decades, the vehicle emission issue is a hot topic and is the easiest to target by the bureaucrats and as always the motorist will always have to foot the bill. Most EU cities do not allow vehicles to enter or park unless they have a low emission decal or have to pay a day rate.
Yamaha will also bear to pressure from the States, so unless there is a new S10 on the drawing board it will go the way of the dinosaurs.

 

[greg the pole]

Not just the EC, the US have been moving in that direction for decades, the vehicle emission issue is a hot topic and is the easiest to target by the bureaucrats and as always the motorist will always have to foot the bill. Most EU cities do not allow vehicles to enter or park unless they have a low emission decal or have to pay a day rate.
Yamaha will also bear to pressure from the States, so unless there is a new S10 on the drawing board it will go the way of the dinosaurs.

dodo bird
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodo
and I quote:

Though the dodo (tenere) has historically been considered fat and clumsy, it is now thought to have been well-adapted for its ecosystem. ::015::

on the other hand, why wouldn't they re-do the tenere? They have a great following on the MT/FZ/FJ range.
Guess the tenere is not a hot ticket seller, even though the market is as active as ever with new models

 

[pub610]

Kawasaki dropped the Concours for a season and reintroduced it as a modern motorcycle. As innovative as Yamaha has been in recent years, I can't see the company going without a large-displacement ADV bike.

 

[Velvet]

meantime, I'm doing my part for the environment..riding my two stroke twice a week till the snow flies, and then studding the tires, and riding it some more.

::008::


I miss having two stroke bikes...the power rush and oooooooooooh that smell. I'm going to have to go outside and cut some weeds today with my two stroke Weedeater.....and maybe cut some firewood with my Husqvarna chainsaw.

 

[Andylaser]

I think the folks in Brussels have run out of useful things to do.

Indeed. We made our opinion quite clear to them. ;D

 

[Ron Earp]

Seems most folks on the board here are doom and gloom on the SuperT's future. Not winning bike reviews getting you down?

I think the bike will continue. ADV machines are still popular and Yamaha will need a 1000cc+ machine to compete with Big Red at a minimum, so, until the SuperT 3rd generation is ready I think they'll continue to build the second generation machine.

I've only had mine a few months but I do like it. I really didn't have much choice with my adv bike requirements: 1000cc or larger, shaft drive, cruise control, non-Italian leaves me with a Triumph Explorer, BMW GSA, and Super T. Strike BMW because BMW and I'm down to two, either of which I know I'd have been happy owning.

 

[Andylaser]

Having ridden the alternatives and having researched them, I believe I chose wisely. I also have the need for the bike to perform reliably in all weathers all year as it is my primary mode of transport to work. I cant see me changing it in a hurry. Even that gnarly looking MT-09 wouldnt tempt me away from the heffalump.

Although an 1100 triple with shaft drive and tubeless tyres might just get my attention.

 

[WJBertrand]

Not just the EC, the US have been moving in that direction for decades, the vehicle emission issue is a hot topic and is the easiest to target by the bureaucrats and as always the motorist will always have to foot the bill. Most EU cities do not allow vehicles to enter or park unless they have a low emission decal or have to pay a day rate.
Yamaha will also bear to pressure from the States, so unless there is a new S10 on the drawing board it will go the way of the dinosaurs.

The difference in the US though is we don't tax the hell out of imports and do not regulate the prices. Though the price regulation bit would not necessarily apply to motorcycles in Europe it sure does on medical devices and drugs.

 

[Pterodactyl]

If they discontinue the Super Tenere, then will I have to shoot mine? ???

 

[Cycledude]

After 28,000 miles I'm convinced the Tenere is the best choice out there right now.