The End of the Super Ténéré..................

[RCinNC]

If they do discontinue it, then I'll just use that as my totally transparent excuse to trade it in on an FJR1300.

 

[Vanderwho]

If they do discontinue it, then I'll just use that as my totally transparent excuse to trade it in on an FJR1300.

I'm right there with ya...

 

[Checkswrecks]

My guess is that an update is coming out. As others have written, the adventure bikes have become a big part of the market and Yamaha is facing an increased number of competitors. The bike shares a lot with the FJR and since that model is due for an update, it'd be a natural time to update the Tenere.


Tenere model years:
Gen 1 = 2010 (2011 US) thru 2013 = 3 years or 4 depending on how counted
Gen 2 = 2014 thru 2016 = 3 years


FJR model years:
Gen 1 = 2001 (2002 US) thru 2005 = 4 years or 5
Gen 2 = 2006 thru 2012 = 7 years (Small mid-series updates)
Gen 3 = 2013 to present = 4 years

 

[greg the pole]

My guess is that an update is coming out. As others have written, the adventure bikes have become a big part of the market and Yamaha is facing an increased number of competitors. The bike shares a lot with the FJR and since that model is due for an update, it'd be a natural time to update the Tenere.


Tenere model years:
Gen 1 = 2010 (2011 US) thru 2013 = 3 years or 4 depending on how counted
Gen 2 = 2014 thru 2016 = 3 years


FJR model years:
Gen 1 = 2001 (2002 US) thru 2005 = 4 years or 5
Gen 2 = 2006 thru 2012 = 7 years (Small mid-series updates)
Gen 3 = 2013 to present = 4 years

didn't they do a small re-fresh on the FJR in 2016? LED lights, ES, and some other bells and whistles?

 

[WJBertrand]

didn't they do a small re-fresh on the FJR in 2016? LED lights, ES, and some other bells and whistles?

Don't forget the new 6 speed transmission, that's a 2016 biggie!


-Jeff

 

[colorider]

My guess is that an update is coming out. As others have written, the adventure bikes have become a big part of the market and Yamaha is facing an increased number of competitors. The bike shares a lot with the FJR and since that model is due for an update, it'd be a natural time to update the Tenere.


Tenere model years:
Gen 1 = 2010 (2011 US) thru 2013 = 3 years or 4 depending on how counted
Gen 2 = 2014 thru 2016 = 3 years


FJR model years:
Gen 1 = 2001 (2002 US) thru 2005 = 4 years or 5
Gen 2 = 2006 thru 2012 = 7 years (Small mid-series updates)
Gen 3 = 2013 to present = 4 years

The 2016 FJR received some fairly significant updates (6 speed tranny, slipper clutch, etc), so I don't look for much more for atleast 2 years. Certainly not enough to sway me back!!!! (;

 

[greg the pole]

The 2016 FJR received some fairly significant updates (6 speed tranny, slipper clutch, etc), so I don't look for much more for atleast 2 years. Certainly not enough to sway me back!!!! (;

so using Top Gear logic, the Tenere is due for a serious re-fresh ::012::

 

[Checkswrecks]

so using Top Gear logic, the Tenere is due for a serious re-fresh ::012::

Thanks Greg - That was what I was trying to get across.

 

[greg the pole]

Thanks Greg - That was what I was trying to get across.

Just take my money Yamaha....if you have a redesign coming. I thought about the 2nd gen, but it's basically the same bike
I know that a lot of guys will jump all over this and tell me how much better the 2nd Gen.
But with a 2014 Basket bought for $70 CDN, manual CCT, and a ECU flash by Anthony, it keeps me plenty happy.

Actually, my 2012 has been enjoying oil a bit too much. About 400ml every 2k km.
I'm suspecting a valve seal or an intake valve (puffs on over run). I'll be doing a refresh this winter.

I'm eager to have a look at the new 700 tenere. The AT is sort of on the radar, but not really. It would be hard to give up the shaft, and the grunt.
Either way the ST is sticking around for a few more years

 

[Dogdaze]

In hindsight perhaps I should not have posted! I know nearly all that commented are not 'concerned or panicked' by the potential change, whether that be a serious upgrade or total demise of the Tenere, but to suggest that we are because of lack of reviews is a little puerile. As CW pointed out any change could happen and will cause an interruption of production until the new one (if any) arrives. This is a very competitive market segment and manufacturers would be ill-advised not to keep up with current trends and future proof bikes. This is an open forum and good or bad we all share a commonality, and with that have a vested interest in any developments. Would it make me sell or not buy a new S10 right now, probably not, as we all know, the latest whizz-bang toy comes with a hefty price tag........ just look at phones! :

 

[dietDrThunder]

2017 will be the last year of the current Super Tenere. It will be replaced by an entirely new ADV bike based on the FZ09 platform. It will be 1050cc, make around 115hp at the rear wheel, and weigh under 600 pounds wet.

 

[Nissbird]

2017 will be the last year of the current Super Tenere. It will be replaced by an entirely new ADV bike based on the FZ09 platform. It will be 1050cc, make around 115hp at the rear wheel, and weigh under 600 pounds wet.

But will it be shaft drive?

 

[greg the pole]

2017 will be the last year of the current Super Tenere. It will be replaced by an entirely new ADV bike based on the FZ09 platform. It will be 1050cc, make around 115hp at the rear wheel, and weigh under 600 pounds wet.

First time I heard this. They are working on the 700 using the FZ07 lump. Or you just pulling a leg?

 

[limey]

This must be the second or third time for the fall of the Super Ténéré since I've been a member on the forum. Hopefully the 700 will be out this time next year.

 

[WJBertrand]

I remember talking to the Honda rep at the motorcycle show a few years back about the lack of an updated ST1300 or any sign of a replacement. His comment was that Honda felt this was a dying category and weren't going to invest further there. That's the very definition of a self-fulfilling prophecy when you're as big as Honda right? Didn't Honda used to create markets??

He went on to say the market was moving to big adventure tourers instead. I replied, "Ok then, (looking around their booth) where is your big adventure tourer?" No answer. I think Yamaha isn't distracted by hybrid Civics and such and has a different philosophy. If they are still investing in the FJR, I can't believe they'd quit on the Super Tenere.

 

[dietDrThunder]

First time I heard this. They are working on the 700 using the FZ07 lump. Or you just pulling a leg?

I confirmed this by thinking about it.

 

[greg the pole]

I confirmed this by thinking about it.

excellent. So a reliable source then ::015::

 

[decooney]

There is a new segment of upright sport touring riders here in the USA (maybe catching on a bit late) buying the Super Tenere', coming from big cruisers and other smaller type bikes who want a nice, reliable, robust, comfortable, reasonably affordable 1200 they can ride 90% or more on paved roads and riding some mild dirt gravel roads every once in a while, but more on-road than offroad. I see it still evolving where I live in NorCal and It's NOT the same group of people looking for the latest and greatest flyweight high powered ADV bikes for offroad use. Personally, I like the 575lbs of weight and stability with the big twin torque of the 1200 Tenere', particularly on longer open road rides where highways and big cross winds are involved riding along coastal highways. Many of us in this segment don't bother with any of the heavy bikes for offroad, using other bikes for this purpose 500s/650s/690s, etc. Long live the Rhino, one will be sitting in my garage for quite some time.

A group of us did a ride a few weekends ago, no dirt involved, all paved, just twisty mountain backroads. All seven Super Tenere' bikes did just great, super nice as-is. Nobody went home wishing for any more other than to do it all over again soon.

 

[stomp347]

That is a great pic. Funny thing around here......I see more S-10's than KTM's.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Yamaha just announced that they will release details of at least one new bike, believed to be an updated R6, on October 4.