The BIG Dynojet PowerCommander V and AutoTune Q&A topic

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just went to the bike and checked, it's plugged in the auto tune in the middle of 2 others ::008:: i noticed when i start the bike the auto tunes red light flashes for a while then goes on full time, is this ok ?
 

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spasm said:
just went to the bike and checked, it's plugged in the auto tune in the middle of 2 others ::008:: i noticed when i start the bike the auto tunes red light flashes for a while then goes on full time, is this ok ?
::008:: All clear!

A blinking red light on the autotune module is normal when the engine has just started running. Once the O2 sensor heats up the light will stay solid. Once you have a solid light you can check your software (lower right hand corner) for an AFR reading (other than 00.0).
 

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Connecting my auto tune and PCV tonight. Couple of questions:

1) Where did you guys get switched 12v power from for the AT?
2) I ran the jumper cable between the PCV and the AT. Is that correct?
3) I installed the jumper block in the PCV - correct?

Thanks,

--Rob
 

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Omaha Tenere said:
Connecting my auto tune and PCV tonight. Couple of questions:

1) Where did you guys get switched 12v power from for the AT?
2) I ran the jumper cable between the PCV and the AT. Is that correct?
3) I installed the jumper block in the PCV - correct?

Thanks,

--Rob
Hello Rob, I picked up the hot from my FZ1 block, but if you don't have one, use the switched wire from the heated grip plug. I think it is the dark blue and black wire, but check it with a multi meter or light.
You'll have to skin the black cover back to get the Posi tap on.

The jumper can be in the Auto Tune or PCV. The rest is correct as far as I remember..
When you are trying to find the switched wire, make sure to use the kill switch so the fuel pump does not pressure up..

Have fun and let us know how you like it.
 

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Omaha Tenere said:
Where is the heated grip plug?
Above the tool pouch, under the wire loom. You will see two plugs, one for the grips and one for the aux lights.

Let me know if you can't find it and I will try and find a pic.
 

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Omaha Tenere said:
Found it! Which one should be the switched 12V?
Pull off the female connector and use a test light or multi meter..
 

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Use this for the 4 wire connector.
Blue/black=12V when ignition is ON
Black/green=12V when engine is running (fed Fog relay from here)
Black=Ground
Green/White=goes to ECU
 

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OK - got it for 12v switched.

Now I may or may not have a problem. I have power for the AT and the red light flashes with ignition on. Light lit on the O2 Optimizer. No lights on the PCV. I have not started the bike yet and wonder if the PCV will not see any power until the bike starts and the injectors get power. Can someone confirm if I should or should not have power at the PCV with ignition on and kill switch in either position (tried both)?

Thanks,

--Rob
 

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Omaha Tenere said:
OK - got it for 12v switched.

Now I may or may not have a problem. I have power for the AT and the red light flashes with ignition on. Light lit on the O2 Optimizer. No lights on the PCV. I have not started the bike yet and wonder if the PCV will not see any power until the bike starts and the injectors get power. Can someone confirm if I should or should not have power at the PCV with ignition on and kill switch in either position (tried both)?

Thanks,

--Rob

I think you need to go back and check your injector connections and make sure you have the can bus terminator in. You will need to press on the connectors until you hear a faint click.
I don't install these everyday so I would have to go look at mine.
Try hooking up your computer to the usb lead. that should power the pcv. Enable the auto tune by going to the drop down menues. Can't tell you which one, the computer needs to be hooked up to see it.
Kees has a picture in this thread I think.
 

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I see Tabasco is on line, maybe he can give you better answers than me..
 

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So the PCV should have lights on with key on and engine not running? I will check my connections in the AM but I am pretty sure I heard the "click" when installing.

--Rob
 

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Omaha Tenere said:
So the PCV should have lights on with key on and engine not running? I will check my connections in the AM but I am pretty sure I heard the "click" when installing.

--Rob
Mine is hooked up to the same power connection in a way. I will check mine in the morning and let you know..
 

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Anybody run maps based on air fuel ratios of 13.0 and lower....richer mixtures? Just curious what your results/feelings are.

I was using a 13.0 and 13.2 AFR map with 7's in the closed loop area, but today I elected to lean things down to 13.4 and 4's in the closed loop area.....result.....what a dog compared to the richer map. I am a big proponent of 3rd gear stand up wheelies and the leaned out map decidedly impacted my wheelie ability.

It is interesting that even with the 13.0 and 13.2 AFR map, that the power commander is doing a lot more of fuel subtraction rather than addition to the stock fuel map. Dont get me wrong, there are some additions of fuel in the 13.0 and 13.2 map, especially at 1000-1250 rpms and 2-5% throttle for my bike, but IN GENERAL, the power commander is subtracting rather than adding fuel.

Unfortunately, except for today, winter has hit PA and long days of riding just arent that common. We got a few in so far this winter, but after todays disappoint on the leaner map, I'm now quite eager to try a 13.0 to 12.8 map and see how that compares.

If you tested some maps in the sub 13.0 range, I'd be interested in your opinions.

BTW...the bike is PCV, AT, arrow header, leo vince, stock airfilter.
 

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Omaha Tenere said:
So the PCV should have lights on with key on and engine not running? I will check my connections in the AM but I am pretty sure I heard the "click" when installing.

--Rob
Make sure that the ignition switch is on, and the kill switch is not activated.

Green light should be lit when bike is running. If status light is blinking there is an error in the PCV.
 

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YamaPA said:
Anybody run maps based on air fuel ratios of 13.0 and lower....richer mixtures? Just curious what your results/feelings are.

I was using a 13.0 and 13.2 AFR map with 7's in the closed loop area, but today I elected to lean things down to 13.4 and 4's in the closed loop area.....result.....what a dog compared to the richer map. I am a big proponent of 3rd gear stand up wheelies and the leaned out map decidedly impacted my wheelie ability.

It is interesting that even with the 13.0 and 13.2 AFR map, that the power commander is doing a lot more of fuel subtraction rather than addition to the stock fuel map. Dont get me wrong, there are some additions of fuel in the 13.0 and 13.2 map, especially at 1000-1250 rpms and 2-5% throttle for my bike, but IN GENERAL, the power commander is subtracting rather than adding fuel.

Unfortunately, except for today, winter has hit PA and long days of riding just arent that common. We got a few in so far this winter, but after todays disappoint on the leaner map, I'm now quite eager to try a 13.0 to 12.8 map and see how that compares.

If you tested some maps in the sub 13.0 range, I'd be interested in your opinions.

BTW...the bike is PCV, AT, arrow header, leo vince, stock airfilter.
Not sure how to interpret that? Do you mean the bike runs better (more power) with the Target AFR set to 13.4 and 4 in the closed loop area instead of 13.2 or 13.0 as target AFR and 7 in closed loop?

Can you please clarify?

I asked my tuner about putting 13.0 or richer in the Target AFR map, and he suggested that his expectations are that 13.2 will give most power on our bike, anything richer would not give more power.

See my earlier post here: http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=2224.msg56273#msg56273
 

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now this is getting interesting, im understanding that 13.2 is the standard map that dynojet suggest as the target AFR, if 13.4 is making it run leaner it will make it quicker, but how lean do we want it before it starts causing damage to the motor, or running to hot ???
 

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Not sure how to interpret that? Do you mean the bike runs better (more power) with the Target AFR set to 13.4 and 4 in the closed loop area instead of 13.2 or 13.0 as target AFR and 7 in closed loop?

Can you please clarify?

I asked my tuner about putting 13.0 or richer in the Target AFR map, and he suggested that his expectations are that 13.2 will give most power on our bike, anything richer would not give more power.

See my earlier post here: http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=2224.msg56273#msg56273
I was up late reading the help files on the PCV and came across a statement by Dynatune. It seems the bikes run richer over seas because of the fuel difference. It inferred the gas in the USA made are bike run leaner.

If that is the case, your 13.2 may be equivalent to ours at 13.1 or less.

I know my bike runs stronger on 13.1 than anything leaner.
 
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