Oil Change

[squarebore]

Chris - thanks for the info. I'm more concerned about operational issues w/ the k&n than size. For example Subaru's are picky about which oil filters to use due some type of issues with the drain back valve inside the filter. I didn't know if the tenere was picky at all or if any filter would do. That was the majority of my concern.

I used to have the same problem with a Subaru and I have a heap of oil filters form other I bikes I have owned that will fit but are a bit long. I'm hoping to use those. Some will look funny as they are k&n chrome filters.

 

[squarebore]

Delvac is good stuff, and worked fine for me in prior bikes. I think the filter change every 4k is a good idea too. I never really understood the logic of changing the oil but not the filter.

Chris

I looked into this a long time ago because I was doing a lot of miles on my diesel land cruiser and the oil change interval was 5000kms. Advice from diesel mechanics and the like said change the filter every other oil change unless the filter was bypassing. You supposedly could tell if it was bypassing as it wouldn't get hot. They also explained that you don't change your fuel filter every time you fill the tank and your fuel doesn't get dirty from running through a dirty filter. Likewise with the air filter.

So the bottom line is money and convenience. If you look at your used oil and it is pretty clean with no metal then your filter is working fine and should continue to do so for quite some time.

 

[triman11427]

How is it possible to do an oil change with enough oil to be slightly above bottom line and after running the bike for 50 miles and putting the bike up on center stand the glass is filled? I measured 3.4 ltrs. Changed filter as well.

 

[squarebore]

How is it possible to do an oil change with enough oil to be slightly above bottom line and after running the bike for 50 miles and putting the bike up on center stand the glass is filled? I measured 3.4 ltrs. Changed filter as well.

I reckon changing the oil on a dry sump bike is about half science and half magic. The good thing is it doesn't matter. On previous bikes the only time I knew it was ok was after an oil change. You drained it and put 3.4lts in so it is perfect.

 

[RocketJohn]

where can I get a garage crane that allows me to flip my Super Tenere over so I can drain out of the fill plug, so don't have to worry about wearing out engine case threads?


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[Poohbear]

where can I get a garage crane that allows me to flip my Super Tenere over so I can drain out of the fill plug, so don't have to worry about wearing out engine case threads?


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You don't need to go to those extremes, just use a pump

 

[EricV]

where can I get a garage crane that allows me to flip my Super Tenere over so I can drain out of the fill plug, so don't have to worry about wearing out engine case threads?

I realize you're only joking, but as PB said, you can suck the oil out with a pump. They make devices just for this. I have one in the garage as some cars are a royal pain to get to the drain plugs, (VW Golf TDI), due to large covers underneath. You just stick the hose down the filler hole into the sump and suck out that way.

This would not completely do the job on the Super Ten, as we have a dry sump motor, so you'd be able to evacuate the sump, but not the engine.

 

[sail2xxs]

No idea if they make a version that would work on the S10, but two of these would solve the problem.

My drain plugs and original washers are still doing fine though, and I'd wonder about clearance with bashplates, etc.

http://www.fumotousa.com/

Chris

 

[olie]

Yamaha Super T lube kit... BTW, 10W-50 oil.

 

[LubeSuppliers.com]

Several people have commented about using the correct oil based on temperature. The way oil viscosity changes (oil thickness) based on temperatures is measured with a chart called a viscosity index. This is basically a line that shows the viscosity of an given oil across a range of temperatures. The more curved the line, the more the oil is being affected by temperature change. The perfect oil would be a totally flat horizontal line maintaining the exact same viscosity at all temperatures. So far, no chemist has been able to achieve this; however, in our labs we have been able to get closer to this "Holy Grail" of perfection with our 100% Fully Synthetic motorcycle oils than any other company.

AMSOIL was the 1st company to make a synthetic oil for motorcycles and has been the world leader in Synthetics for 40 years - it's all we do. Your Super Tenere can use our 10w-40 Motorcycle Oil in all seasons with excellent performance and protection regardless of temperature! www.LubeSuppliers.com

 

[tomatocity]

Good to see a distributor offer information. Good for you Amsoil.

 

[Dallara]

Several people have commented about using the correct oil based on temperature. The way oil viscosity changes (oil thickness) based on temperatures is measured with a chart called a viscosity index. This is basically a line that shows the viscosity of an given oil across a range of temperatures. The more curved the line, the more the oil is being affected by temperature change. The perfect oil would be a totally flat horizontal line maintaining the exact same viscosity at all temperatures. So far, no chemist has been able to achieve this; however, in our labs we have been able to get closer to this "Holy Grail" of perfection with our 100% Fully Synthetic motorcycle oils than any other company.

AMSOIL was the 1st company to make a synthetic oil for motorcycles and has been the world leader in Synthetics for 40 years - it's all we do. Your Super Tenere can use our 10w-40 Motorcycle Oil in all seasons with excellent performance and protection regardless of temperature! www.LubeSuppliers.com

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What is the nominal level in PPM of zinc and phosphorus in your "10w-40 Motorcycle Oil"? What about in your 20w-50?

Dallara


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[motoguy]

No idea if they make a version that would work on the S10, but two of these would solve the problem.

My drain plugs and original washers are still doing fine though, and I'd wonder about clearance with bashplates, etc.

http://www.fumotousa.com/

Chris

These drain valves are a GOD sent! I see these a lot on big rigs and pu trucks. I've never seen or herd of one popping open either.
Have them on my personal vehicles too. Never thought of the bike.

 

[viewdvb]

I can't believe it. You are now up to 20 pages on the ridiculously simple concept of an oil change. If such a basic task so freaks you out, should I expect around 200 pages on checking the valve clearances. If so, I'll just stop bothering to read the forum and stick to reading the workshop manual. Come on fellas - if you can't get a couple of wrenches out and just change the damn oil (any decent quality of the right grade qill keep the engine healthy), you don't need this forum; you need your Yamaha dealer.

 

[Dallara]

I can't believe it. You are now up to 20 pages on the ridiculously simple concept of an oil change. If such a basic task so freaks you out, should I expect around 200 pages on checking the valve clearances. If so, I'll just stop bothering to read the forum and stick to reading the workshop manual. Come on fellas - if you can't get a couple of wrenches out and just change the damn oil (any decent quality of the right grade qill keep the engine healthy), you don't need this forum; you need your Yamaha dealer.

Aw, c'mon, Viewdvb...

Ya' gotta' admit, the Super Tenere is so friggin' reliable and requires so little maintenance or upkeep there's really not too much else to talk about.

I mean, really... How many times can people post "Went out for a ride today. Bike ran perfect. No problems..." and make it sound dramatic? After all, this isn't a BMW forum where you've got seal leaks, fuel strip failures, CANBUS mysteries, dropped valves, disintegrating clutches, exploding final drives, arrogant dealers, etc., etc. to whine (whinge), cry, moan, and complain about, is it? ::025::

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[rem]

I can't believe it. You are now up to 20 pages on the ridiculously simple concept of an oil change. If such a basic task so freaks you out, should I expect around 200 pages on checking the valve clearances. If so, I'll just stop bothering to read the forum and stick to reading the workshop manual. Come on fellas - if you can't get a couple of wrenches out and just change the damn oil (any decent quality of the right grade qill keep the engine healthy), you don't need this forum; you need your Yamaha dealer.

Someone's grumpy. ::025:: ::025:: I think I'll start a thread on checking air pressure in the tires. We should be able to squeeze 30 pages out of that. I'm on it. R ::008::

 

[Dallara]

Someone's grumpy. ::025:: ::025:: I think I'll start a thread on checking air pressure in the tires. We should be able to squeeze 30 pages out of that. I'm on it. R ::008::

The nitrogen vs air in tires (tyres) is always good for a few dozen pages, don'cha' think? ::017::


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[Ramseybella]

The nitrogen vs air in tires (tyres) is always good for a few dozen pages, don'cha' think? ::017::


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I thought it was helium Vs Air?

Works on a football!!

viewdvb Pick on the AMSOIL guy they are use to it.. :-*

Did I say that?
Sorry!!

 

[LubeSuppliers.com]

Works on a football!!

viewdvb Pick on the AMSOIL guy they are use to it.. :-*

Did I say that?
Sorry!!

Hey now - viewdvb wouldn't succumb to that level of peer pressure... but if by chance some other poor sap found themselves stumbling down the path to increased knowledge, we've got thick enough skin to weather the storm ;D

 

[olie]

it wouldn't a oil thread without a Amsoil wonder claim! ::002::