How many S10's do you think Yamaha sold in the US??

[tiogajoe]

I'm curious to find out how well the S10's did on the PDP?? I wonder if it will be a once and done offering??

 

[Brntrt]

I spoke with the District Sales Rep @ Romney a couple of weeks ago and asked the same question. His reply, "We are very pleased".

 

[Buckeye71]

I know the market sucks right now and bringing over any new models is a real gamble, but Yamaha could stand to import a few more models here to the U.S., like the XT660Z, XT660R, and XT660X. This would fill a rather large gap in their current lineup.

I think the XT660 series bikes would stack up quite well against the Trimph Tiger 800 & 800XC, BMW F650/800 series, and the soon to be released Husqvarna 900's.

 

[hANNAbONE]

Oh - I dunno...maybe the USA sold 1400 units, hec maybe even 1800 units including the dealership orders...

 

[Jakeboy]

Oh - I dunno...maybe the USA sold 1400 units, hec maybe even 1800 units including the dealership orders...

I'd be willing to wager the number is very close to 2000. Once they start hitting and we start riding them, I'm thinking Yamaha may start offering them as a regular floor stock bike. These Adventure bikes are starting to catch on. A long time Harley riding friend of mine bought a nice used Transalp a few months ago and he rarely rides his Harley now. He can't wait to see my S10 when I get it. I think he's going to convert and I doubt he's going to be alone!

I think that when Yamaha saw the order numbers, they jumped through hoops to get the bikes out as fast as possible, hence the better delivery compared to the end of November deal. They've got a real winner here and they now know it.

 

[~TABASCO~]

2500 I personally think 1000-1500 or so..... Ive been told , 25

 

[HoebSTer]

i think they sold 850-1000 units is all!!! I sort of think this may be high. Thats roughly $10million worth!!!

 

[keeponriding]

Quite a range: low guess 800...high, 2,500...would be nice to know.

 

[2XADV]

My concern is about sustainability for our bikes. If they only sold 1,000 they may not ever have them as a dealer stocked bike.
My uninformed (based on non-motor vehicle market) estimated cost for US EPA/DOT and CARB Certification is >~$300K. They need to sell ~3000 units to make up for that.

 

[HoebSTer]

hey 2xadv, um what math are you using???? $12.000 x 30 bikes is $360.000

 

[markjenn]

My concern is about sustainability for our bikes. If they only sold 1,000 they may not ever have them as a dealer stocked bike.
My uninformed (based on non-motor vehicle market) estimated cost for US EPA/DOT and CARB Certification is >~$300K. They need to sell ~3000 units to make up for that.

I don't think safety/emissions certification alone is that expensive. I heard a guy at the EPA estimate it at $75K for a large mfg who has been through the process multiple times, is doing the tests themselves, and already has the equipment and processes in place. But.... there are a lot of other costs with producing a new model for a new market - owner's manual and service manual development/printing, channel training, marketing material development, etc. so this might not be far off the total cost. Of course, these costs have to be distributed over the life-cycle of the product which in the case of the S10, might be a decade or more.

My estimate is 800-1000 US units for this PDP period. I'd guess this meets but does not exceed Yamaha's expectations. Based on the past, I'd predict 1-2 more years of selling the bike under the PDP, with a new order period for spring 2012 opening this fall.

- Mark

 

[Dirt_Dad]

Final: 1,142 Before the delay 1,221.




Since we're all guessing I just wanted to register my guess which is based on absolutely no information whatsoever.

 

[Brntrt]

Final: 1,142 Before the delay 1,221.




Since we're all guessing I just wanted to register my guess which is based on absolutely no information whatsoever.

All righty then. I'll bid 1368. What? This isn't the price is right? Sorry! )

 

[fredz43]

Although the manufacturers typically don't share sales numbers, those numbers are available. We should know in a few months how many S10's were brought in under this PDP program. One publication, Power Sports Business publishes these numbers, which it obtains thru registration information from all 50 states. Since this shipment will be here in August and the vast majority are presold, those bikes will immediately be registered and those numbers will be published in few months. The ones ordered in names for floor stock won't be registered until sold, but I think that may only be a small % and those should sell fairly quickly. They publish monthly and yearly figures thru this method.

An example of adventure bike sales are in one issue I happen to have at home and it is for the 12 month period from June 09-May 2010. The BMW R1200GS sold 1303 units and the BMW R1200GS Adventure sold 1130 units.

My WAG is between 1000 and 1200 S10's.

 

[HoebSTer]

If the Beemers are only 1100 or so each model, well then I can't think Mama Yama has gone past 900 or so, which is still good!!!

 

[Kidder]

 

[Dirt_Dad]

Power Sports Business publishes these numbers, which it obtains thru registration information from all 50 states. Since this shipment will be here in August and the vast majority are presold, those bikes will immediately be registered and those numbers will be published in few months.

With so many of us buying out of state I wonder how accurate those number will be. I know my bike will first be registered in West Virginia, then registered again in Virginia a few days later. Will my bike count as two?

 

[fredz43]

How do you register it in two states? In IL when we sell a bike out of state, it is not registered for title in IL. The owner registers it for title in his/her home state. Will you have to pay two title fees? That could be expensive.

These are new bike registrations, BTW. If it were titled in one state and then retitled in another, it would seem that only the original title registration would count.

 

[troll]

Kidder this is on the money - LMFAO ) ) ) ) ) )

 

[Dirt_Dad]

How do you register it in two states? In IL when we sell a bike out of state, it is not registered for title in IL. The owner registers it for title in his/her home state. Will you have to pay two title fees? That could be expensive.

These are new bike registrations, BTW. If it were titled in one state and then retitled in another, it would seem that only the original title registration would count.

When I pickup the bike it will have a WV temp tag. I was counting that as a registration since I assume if I'm pulled over it will be in someone's computer that it is a legitimate tag. Once home I'll register with my home state, so I was counting that as two. But if the trade publication is only counting the number of registrations using the Certificate of Origin that would make it count only once.