Handlebar thread

[Nissbird]

Re: Graphic Handlebar Comparison

Very cool stuff! Are you basing that off of the information in the spreadsheet or another source (if so which one)?

In the case of the after-market bars I take dimensions direct from the manufacturers websites

For The original Yamaha bars I dismantled my 2013 ST bars and measured them

 

[Nissbird]

Ok, I have decided what to do about the "pins and needles" I suffer with in my throttle hand after riding for half an hour:

1. Fit new bars and risers - Renthal KTM bend and ROX 2" adjustable. The OEM bars are swept back to much for me and Renthals will reduce this by 12 degrees, whilst the ROX risers will make them more adjustable.

2. Fit home made throttle control - 3D printed. I made one of these for my Bulldog which worked great - it does not rely on friction but "indentation".

3. Replace throttle return spring on throttle body with one about 50% weaker. Next to handlebar sweep I believe the return force on the throttle is probably the next biggest cause of pain in my throttle hand.

I shall let you know how all turns out.

PDF files attached.

 

[AVGeek]

Ok, I have decided what to do about the "pins and needles" I suffer with in my throttle hand after riding for half an hour:

1. Fit new bars and risers - Renthal KTM bend and ROX 2" adjustable. The OEM bars are swept back to much for me and Renthals will reduce this by 12 degrees, whilst the ROX risers will make them more adjustable.

2. Fit home made throttle control - 3D printed. I made one of these for my Bulldog which worked great - it does not rely on friction but "indentation".

3. Replace throttle return spring on throttle body with one about 50% weaker. Next to handlebar sweep I believe the return force on the throttle is probably the next biggest cause of pain in my throttle hand.

I shall let you know how all turns out.

PDF files attached.

I'd love to see more details on your home made throttle control. I wound up with the excel control myself, but I'm always interested in gadgets!

 

[Nissbird]

I'd love to see more details on your home made throttle control. I wound up with the excel control myself, but I'm always interested in gadgets!

I shall post the details when I get it working

 

[Nissbird]

Here are some pics of my new Renthal 827 KTM bars with Chinese "Rox" risers. Shall try it out on the weekend and let you know if the pins and needles are reduced.

Some helpful info:

1 off Ebay Risers: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/28MM-Bar-Clamp-Riser-Taper-Handlebar-For-KTM-950-990-ADV-Silver-D-/331307261757?hash=item4d23739f3d £22.99 inc del (2 weeks)

2 off M8 Metal Rawl Plugs (for use with original bar ends) "DIY Store"

1 off Renthal Fat Bar Handle Bars - Bend Code:827, Tanium, £69.99 + £3.99 del "Manchester Xtreme"

2 off M8 x 90mm button head hex socket bolts

Drill some holes in bars then fit


approx £100 total

 

[groundhog]

Will be interested to see what you think of the risers Nissbird. I changed my bars, similar to yours except Pro Taper and although the less sweepback has cured the neck pain I was getting with the stock bars I do still get numbness in my throttle hand. Hope they work for you !

 

[Nissbird]

Tried out the new bars this morning - and first impressions are I do not think they are going to cure the pins and needles in my throttle hand, the ergonomics are better however and the bars feel like they are "in the right place".

When I make my home made throttle stop at least I shall be able to give my throttle hand a rest.

I have the same problem with all bikes - I am pretty sure I suffer with CTS

 

[MrSpock]

I have a brand new Protaper Raptor for sale. Professionally tapped and drilled for ST 2014+. Pictures and more info here:
http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=17933.msg266351#msg266351

 

[jimmy da fish]

Ok, so how high can I go before needing longer cables/brakelines?

I thinking about these 28MM Bar Clamp Riser Taper Handlebar & Pro-Taper EVO Adventure 1 1/8" Handlebar Adventure High Bend Black

Or do you think the bars will be high enough? I'm 6'3"

 

[Andylaser]

Love the comparisons, can you do one with the FJ-09 bars?

 

[Defekticon]

Ok, so how high can I go before needing longer cables/brakelines?

I thinking about these 28MM Bar Clamp Riser Taper Handlebar & Pro-Taper EVO Adventure 1 1/8" Handlebar Adventure High Bend Black

Or do you think the bars will be high enough? I'm 6'3"

At 6'3" you shouldn't need the risers. The adv high bend should be fine. Try that first before you add risers. You will need extended lines if you run both risers and the high bend bars. Running only one or the other will probably be close to the limit of the stock length lines.

 

[Jabba]

Has anyone ever removed grips that were glued on using m/c grip glue? My wife is a chemist, and suggested I try a few different solvents and a vet needle to get it in there once I've found a solvent that will dissolve the glue. I applied my factory heated grips to the factory bars on my 2014. Don't love the grip design, don't like the sweep of the OEM bars, but I DO love the integrated digital heat settings of the stock heated grips. Plug and play beats the heck out of a dial on the dash. Another option I'm considering is to cut off the old grips, cut the wires and splice a set of grip heaters into the OEM wiring- use a set of Spider grips. Want a flatter, higher bar (ADV or the Raptor) but I don't want to sacrifice my heated grips and the integrated settings. Thoughts?

 

[Defekticon]

Flat head screw driver will help you get them off. I was able to remove my stock grips without destroying them. They're worth money, so my advice is take them off gently and sell them in the classifieds. Then use the money to get yourself what you want. Replace them with Windex. Best grip glue not specifically made for that purpose.

 

[AVGeek]

Compressed air shot underneath the grip works great. Just use a blow gun with a small diameter nozzle, work it underneath the grip, and when you squeeze the trigger, it will "float" off of the handlebar, and you can pull it off.

 

[jimmy da fish]

At 6'3" you shouldn't need the risers. The adv high bend should be fine. Try that first before you add risers. You will need extended lines if you run both risers and the high bend bars. Running only one or the other will probably be close to the limit of the stock length lines.

Thanks, I'm goin try the high bars first.

 

[Judd]

Just like many in this thread, I'm not happy with the OEM handle bars on my '14 Tenere. My real complaint is that they have too much sweep. I have OEM heated grips and I'm on a first name basis with Murphy which means,,,,, I'll prolly not get the grips off without damaging them so not so keen on replacing the bars which would be the best thing since it's the sweep that irritates me. Today I installed some Rox risers. Not happy,,,, too high and of course, didn't change the sweep. I was hoping the extra height would help alleviate the discomfort really caused by the sweep but I don't think it works for me. It does make standing on the pegs more comfy though but I stand on the pegs like less than .1% of the time I'm riding on the bike and it's the other 99.9% of the time I'm buggin on.

So finally, here the question and yea, I know it sounds half assed, has anyone placed a long bar in the handle bar ends and tried to bend them slightly forward to get rid of some of that sweep?

 

[ace50]

If your talking about starting with something like a 'drag' bar (straight) and putting slight bends in it, just a word of caution.
A drag bar is uncomfortable as hell. Your wrist joint pushes your elbows outward (uncomfortable).
Many bikes (like cruisers) have a high sweep or bend and isn't all that uncomfortable because the wrist joint easily allows that position.

Everyone's different, but I just made some bars for my 2012 that are 3"+ higher than stock and kept the stock sweep. (I'm 6'3")
Haven't ridden it yet but I think I'm gonna like it!

 

[HBLQRider]

At 6'3" you shouldn't need the risers. The adv high bend should be fine. Try that first before you add risers. You will need extended lines if you run both risers and the high bend bars. Running only one or the other will probably be close to the limit of the stock length lines.

I just ordered the Pro Taper Evo Adventure High Handlebars. Did you need to add extended lines? I am going to add the high bars without risers.

Any help is appreciated.

 

[Defekticon]

I extended them because I didn't like how tight they were with the rox risers + the stock handle bars. There is an altrider kit that relocates the brake junction block by the head tube of the frame to give you a little extra slack. My advice is to leave it, when you get the bars decide whether or not your comfortable with the slack. I can tell you that the SS extended lines from RideonADV are not as intimidating to install as it seams as you can gravity bleed them without having to take the bike to the dealer to get the ABS pump bled.

 

[HBLQRider]

I extended them because I didn't like how tight they were with the rox risers + the stock handle bars. There is an altrider kit that relocates the brake junction block by the head tube of the frame to give you a little extra slack. My advice is to leave it, when you get the bars decide whether or not your comfortable with the slack. I can tell you that the SS extended lines from RideonADV are not as intimidating to install as it seams as you can gravity bleed them without having to take the bike to the dealer to get the ABS pump bled.

Thank you for the quick response!

I will try it without the extended lines as you suggested. If I am uncomfortable with it or want to keep my 1" risers on then I will call RideonADV.

Thanks again.