Gen2 Gear Indicator Display - gear disappears when clutch in

[mercurydog47]

Well, the point is moot since I couldn't get the efm clutch to work after hours of adjusting and fiddling. I had high hopes but I am putting the standard stuff back in.

 

[gaps]

mercurydog, sorry to hear of your struggle. Could you say more about what didn't work? How about EFM, did they offer help or refund? I'm guessing this was a pricey bit of kit and should/would include tech support.

 

[mercurydog47]

I have seen gear indicators on Suzuki VStrom and BMW 650 GS and neither of them had the problem of the dashed line whenever the clutch is pulled in. The gear position was displayed no matter what the clutch was doing. The GPI on the Yamaha is a little disconcerting especially when you are stopped and waiting for takeoff and you aren't sure that you are in 1st or 2nd. I wonder why Yamaha can't fix this with a software upgrade.

 

[WJBertrand]

Yamaha would need to add a switch to the transmission to indicate each gear as they've done for N. Instead they do it by comparing RPM to speed to derive which gear the bike is in.


-Jeff

 

[iClint]

What you get on the tenere is a simpler design, there is no Gear Position Sensor, so therefore nothing to report back to the ECU what gear is selected.

An always on GPI is not something that can be implemented with a software update.

Probably better to develop the habit of tapping down a few times before coming to a stop to ensure you are in first, that way regardless the situation you are always ready to take off in case of an emergency, with no need to look down at the dash to see what gear you are in not that you can on the tenere anyway.

 

[fredz43]

Probably better to develop the habit of tapping down a few times before coming to a stop to ensure you are in first, that way regardless the situation you are always ready to take off in case of an emergency, with no need to look down at the dash to see what gear you are in not that you can on the tenere anyway.

+100 ;D

 

[cakeboy]

I cannot believe how long this is going on , after all its just a small niggle, i have never found it a problem .if it didn't have a gear indicator you could still ride the bike ok couldnt you ? .

 

[Dogdaze]

I cannot believe how long this is going on , after all its just a small niggle, i have never found it a problem .if it didn't have a gear indicator you could still ride the bike ok couldnt you ? .

::026:: It's winter and so riding season is on hold for lots........ ::017::

 

[polishadam82]

LMAO what else maybe an auto pilot? who cares about gear indicator

 

[barkingllizard]

 

[colorider]

Just got home from picking up my new Tenere. I didn't notice the gear "dash" until today as I rolled into town from the 2 day trip. I'm used to the gear indicator on my Wee and my FJR - which show all the time - regardless of moving, stopped, clutch in etc.

So, the dash is normal when stopped and for a short time between shifts?

:question:

 

[WJBertrand]

Yeah, the only position the shows up with the clutch pulled in is N. Makes the position indicator less useful that it could be.

 

[EricV]

So, the dash is normal when stopped and for a short time between shifts?

Yes, it's a software derived gear indicator, as opposed to the Gen 3 FJR's actual hardware gear indicator. They were able to do that with the FJR since they were doing an entire new engine case for the 6th gear trans anyway. With the Super Ten the Gen II is the same motor, just some ancillary new add on stuff and BNG along with the new dash, etc., so no place to put the hardware version.

 

[colorider]

Yes, I have grown to appreciate the "1" show up at a stop. It saves some embarrassing stumbling starts in the wrong gear!!!!


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[Grumpy]

I fitted a gear indicator on my gen 1 and that shows - with the clutch disengaged. It looks like Yamaha have used the same wiring connections off the ECU, probably cheaper than re-doing the software.

 

[vapexpr]

Rather than displaying the dash in the gear indicator when the clutch is pulled the display could show the last gear the bike was in. Perhaps flashing to indicate an unsure status.

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[WJBertrand]

Yes, it's a software derived gear indicator, as opposed to the Gen 3 FJR's actual hardware gear indicator. They were able to do that with the FJR since they were doing an entire new engine case for the 6th gear trans anyway. With the Super Ten the Gen II is the same motor, just some ancillary new add on stuff and BNG along with the new dash, etc., so no place to put the hardware version.

All the reviews and tech articles I've read say Yamaha redesigned the gears (making them narrower) specifically so they would fit 6 speeds into the existing engine cases originally designed for the 5-speed.

 

[fredz43]

All the reviews and tech articles I've read say Yamaha redesigned the gears (making them narrower) specifically so they would fit 6 speeds into the existing engine cases originally designed for the 5-speed.

Yes, I just read that in the latest issue of Motorcyclist. They also said that the 6th gear was 9% higher than the old 5th gear and the final drive was a bit higher, so the overall result was 10% higher final gearing in top gear.

 

[Brick]

FYI my friend has an FJ09 and when he pulls in the clutch it shows what gear he is in. I asked him to check this over the Sena intercom because the MT09 (European for FJ09) that I rented last July and rode 20 days of the alps also showed the gear with clutch pulled in.


Let's Ride!
Brick

 

[RIDEMYST]

We can only hope that Yamaha is listening to their customers. -JEP-


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