ECUnleashed Gen2 - RESULTS ONLY

[snakebitten]

Mine is the unsexy pig with oem stainless exhaust and boring old oem silencer. Also that hideous oem exhaust cover.

Mine has a different surge. It surges forward through the gears and seems to beg to be flogged.
No hiccups, burps, stumbles, flat spots...........
Just runs like a scalded cat. The pig can rip now.

Those are my Gen2 results.

Maybe I'll get bored someday. It's happened before. But yall ain't getting no more $$$ outta me searching for the hp holy grail.
It's the most perfect I have ever gotten a bike dialed in for my personal taste I have ever had.

This is now a 600lb dirt bike. Never ridden anything like it. It's just perfect. Scary good.

 

[simmons1]

Despite what DynoJet advises - I had to put 6's in my 0% fuel table up to 3,000 rpm range. Then 8's in the 2% up to 3,000 rpm range. AFR cells are blank - I don't want to be trimming in there. I haven't rode two-up yet with these, but solo it didn't surge on me. I experience the worst surging loaded down

Thanks!

With my Gen 1 flash 20's in at 0% and around 2K where my worst surging was. I also left the AFR cells blank. I have no surging currently.

 

[Karson]

Thanks!

With my Gen 1 flash 20's in at 0% and around 2K where my worst surging was. I also left the AFR cells blank. I have no surging currently.

That's good to know. Let me know how those values work out.


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[Monty]

Hi folks,

Had my reflash done today by ECUnleashed UK just a few miles from me. My bike has an Arrow silencer, but otherwise stock. Not had the Gen 1 flash previously, so cannot compare the difference.

The T mode seems to be improved slightly and feels a little smoother, but still nice and tame for those gentle rides. As others have reported, the difference when switching to S mode is now really pronounced. LOTS of torque pretty much from tickover, a linear power delivery and very quick throttle response. In fact I am still not used to the throttle response in the 100 miles or so I rode today. In the low gears it is a bit of a torque monster at low to mid revs now. When I came into towns with tricky work through traffic I switched to T mode.

I have used the CJM previously, and I was thinking about how I rate that compared with the flash. If stock everything scores 1 and the reflash is 10, I would score he CJM as around 6 or maybe 7. The CJM does get rid of the throttle restrictions, but the improvement in throttle response and power delivery with the reflash is a significant step up again.

I had before and after runs done in 2nd and 5th gear, and the PDF files of these will e emailed through later. As expected 2nd gear showed a total transformation, whereas 5th showed little real difference other than 2hp more at the top end. As Mr Rasher pointed out earlier, it is all about the delivery and throttle response in the higher gears. Really pleasing to ride in a spirited way.

Oh yes, and fuel economy seems at least as good so far... Probably better bearing in mind I was playing quite a bit. UK mpg showed around 56 when I got home, but obviously it is early days.

Regards,

Matt

 

[Higstatic]

Thanks for posting Monty. A flash is definitely on my wish list now ::008::

 

[creggur]

Can't wait to see what the dyno said...

 

[Rasher]

Just got my best ever miles to fuel light, and average MPG reading ::008::

There was some gentle riding in this tankful, but also a lot of running around in lower gears, light came on at 185 (I normally see this at 165 - 175) readout showed 53mpg, my maths made the figures almost exactly 50mpg (19.5L at 216 miles)

Can't be certain both fills were exactly the same, but it looks as if the mpg is better post flash, but maybe not quite as much as the meter suggests, at the moment it looks like the real consumption is 1-2mpg better, but the meter is showing 3-4 mpg better....

Not that I care, I would have been extremely happy with the Flash even if the mpg had dropped a couple of MPG, but it is certainly no worse, and probably a shade better. I am also convinced it is smoother, or at least it feels smoother which is all that matters.

Still loving the power delivery, spent yesterday afternoon on back lanes and the low down throttle response puts a grin on my face every time I open the throttle, definitely worth the money, even compared to the Clutch Mod.

 

[Red dust]

Cool, looking forward to this mod one day sooner or later hopefully sooner.
Really like that it seems to be smoother and better fuel milage.
Just do not like the idea not to be able to ride the bike for some time since the flash might take awhile for them to do, but according to so many people it seems to be worth the wait.
Wish they (EcuUnleashed) would respond to my e-mails, not very comforting with lack of communication regarding something that important!
Might send to another place.

 

[Monty]

I agree with Mr Rasher's general assessment. I also seem to be getting better mpg, and I to feel the motor is smoother.

Currently in Belgium for a long weekend with Mrs Monty. On the way down here at a GPS 70 to 80 with the loaded Holan 45s and Trekker 52 top case on board the computer is giving 54mpg.

On back lanes with Mrs Monty and no luggage I crept over 60mpg indicated, so I can squeeze out those miles!

Matt

 

[AlsoRan]

For those that have a stock bike but have the Gen 2 flash upgrade (from Gen 1) and have put some road miles on it, I am interested in your ride-ability feedback regarding two areas:


1) Do you find the power delivery in sport mode as usable for day to day, or is it just a massive hit / boost that would never really apply except for going to the canyons and running with the sport bikes?

2) Can you detect if "T" mode is any different with the Gen 2 re-flash? Any special improvement or about the same as the Gen 1?

I am happy with the Gen 1 and just want to make sure it's worth it before pull the bike down and send it off.

Thanks...

 

[roll_it_on]

1) Do you find the power delivery in sport mode as usable for day to day, or is it just a massive hit / boost that would never really apply except for going to the canyons and running with the sport bikes?

I had the Gen 1 flash and was not real happy with the results as the two modes were had to distinguish any real difference in the delivery. My bike still had a pretty bad stumble off idle and needed to add a PC and quite a bit of fuel to make it run right. Now the stumble is gone and T mode is significantly different than S mode. S mode is certainly usable at all times but it is more throttle sensitive and feels like it has 20-30 more horses under the hood.

2) Can you detect if "T" mode is any different with the Gen 2 re-flash? Any special improvement or about the same as the Gen 1? I think both modes have been improved as I never even liked the T mode before but it has real value now for dirt or tight bumpy roads where smooth linear throttle help. S mode is great for wheelies and for romping up behind sport bikes in the twisties. I would recommend the upgrade.

 

[snakebitten]

Cool, looking forward to this mod one day sooner or later hopefully sooner.
Really like that it seems to be smoother and better fuel milage.
Just do not like the idea not to be able to ride the bike for some time since the flash might take awhile for them to do, but according to so many people it seems to be worth the wait.
Wish they (EcuUnleashed) would respond to my e-mails, not very comforting with lack of communication regarding something that important!
Might send to another place.

You already have Gen1 flash?

 

[AlsoRan]

1) Do you find the power delivery in sport mode as usable for day to day, or is it just a massive hit / boost that would never really apply except for going to the canyons and running with the sport bikes?

I had the Gen 1 flash and was not real happy with the results as the two modes were had to distinguish any real difference in the delivery. My bike still had a pretty bad stumble off idle and needed to add a PC and quite a bit of fuel to make it run right. Now the stumble is gone and T mode is significantly different than S mode. S mode is certainly usable at all times but it is more throttle sensitive and feels like it has 20-30 more horses under the hood.

2) Can you detect if "T" mode is any different with the Gen 2 re-flash? Any special improvement or about the same as the Gen 1? I think both modes have been improved as I never even liked the T mode before but it has real value now for dirt or tight bumpy roads where smooth linear throttle help. S mode is great for wheelies and for romping up behind sport bikes in the twisties. I would recommend the upgrade.

Thanks for the good info.

I sent in the ECU for the upgrade, I was happy with the Gen 1 and was on the fence, so hopefully the upgrade will be real usable power.

 

[Karson]

Hey Monty - have you gotten your dyno results back yet? If so, I know lots of folks would be interested in seeing whatcha got. Also, if you wouldn't mind listing your mods again, that'd be helpful.

::003::

 

[Monty]

Re: Re: ECUnleashed Gen2 - RESULTS ONLY

Hey Monty - have you gotten your dyno results back yet? If so, I know lots of folks would be interested in seeing whatcha got. Also, if you wouldn't mind listing your mods again, that'd be helpful.

::003::

Sorry dude. Forgot all about it. I do have the dyno results and will post them when I am at my computer next.

Matt

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[Karson]

No worries!

 

[Monty]

Hi,

Here are the before and after torque and power runs in 2nd gear. The maximum figures are not as important as the change in shape of the curve. For info, 5th gear runs show higher peak output but only slight changes from non-flash, other than 2.5hp at the top.

My bike is stock other than an Arrow silencer, and this was from the stock ECU to Gen 2 flash. So, no comparision from Gen 1 to Gen 2 here. That sudden rush of torque almost from tickover is like a drug, and combined with the improved throttle response really makes the whole ride lively.

So, make of it what you will. I am happy.

Matt

 

[Tallgears]

Nice, both graphs look significantly better between 4-7k... That's a really straight torque curve in 2nd now.

 

[Podman]

My ECU just arrived a AF1 Racing ::015:: ::012::
Looking forward to getting it back so I can ride this puppy!

 

[MojoToot]

Yesterday I had a ride-in GEN II flash done on my stock '12. It was a 461 mi round trip, so there and back were very fresh "seat-o-pants" comparisons.

For me, S & T no longer stand for Sport/Tour........now they are Street/Trail.

The difference between the 2 is now VERY apparent. Work on those forearms, you really need to hold on to those bars in S mode now!

I doubt that I will find an off pavement use for S mode, at least the way I ride dirt.

Of course, T mode can still be useful on the street, as in put putting through a town or just laid back cruising.