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roy said:
Way to go Yamaha. I am starting to believe this was a plan all along.
I seriously doubt Yamaha wanted to purposely piss off a bunch of customers in this awful economic climate. Why would they do that?
 

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20valves said:
I seriously doubt Yamaha wanted to purposely piss off a bunch of customers in this awful economic climate. Why would they do that?

Their goal was not to piss off customers, but their goal was to maximize sales, like any company. Some customers are naturally pissed in the process.

If they were honest about delivery, they would have lost sales
 

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fredz43 said:
Here is an update sent to dealers today:

Orders for your customers who submitted Super Ténéré deposits now
reflect the estimated month of delivery.
The delivery month can be viewed on YDS under the Sales tab and viewing
your Super Ténéré orders.

We will deliver the units sooner if production arrives sooner than expected.

Orders entered today are being scheduled for delivery the first week of
August, 2011. Enter your customer’s orders as soon as possible to secure
the earliest delivery date!


So, there it is. Don't blame your dealer, he gets his inventory and information from Yamaha.

Mine shows June delivery and if, as they say, production arrives sooner, I may get it sooner. If not, I'll be hoping for the early part of June. :)
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/mcy/super_tenere_pdp.aspx Can you please give me the link to this YDS site?

Couldn't find it anywhere on the site map of Yamaha Corporation main website. Many thanks, my number is 156491.
 

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I ordered mine on Sept 1, the first day they were available. I know of 5 other riders in my immediate area that also ordered the first day. The estimated delivery for all of those is June. It is evident to me that there were a lot of orders right after the dealer meetings got out on Sept 1, several more in the next few days and after that initial rush of orders the pace has been more of a steady pace and it took a longer period of time for those numbers to increase enough for the next shipment. They are doing exactly what they said, first ordered, first delivered, BEGINNING in May. Although they may have missed their earlier target of May by a month, there is still a chance they will make it if inventory arrives sooner. If not, they still came pretty close to their estimate published last Sept.

Or they could be doing all this just to piss us off, as that would be good business practice. ;)
 

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So I just spoke with my dealer. He looked me up and said mine was scheduled for July. I ordered in January? Of course he can't guarantee anything he sees on the screen, but he did say he has 7 on ordered through him and 2 are black. One of the bikes have an August delivery date.

In order to meet the definition of a "july delivery", yamaha just needs get it shipped in July. (could be July 31st), then 10 days shipping, prep and pickup all added on to that.

I wonder if he get's more priority based on the number of bikes he has on order?

On another note - I really don't understand all the hostility in some of the posts, I thought people were pretty well informed that it'll be a "hurry up and wait" situation. Not to worry, they will be here soon. I have a trip planned in July as well and I told my dealer that if he get's it in, call my cell and I'll be heading down to get it. Trip or not.
It's our annual Brain Flush Ride and the theme of our ride this year is Hall of Fame Tour. We will be visiting several Hall of Fame sites throughout Western PA, Ohio and New York and then head to the BMW Rally in Bloomsberg, PA. I wish I had the Tenere for that! :p
 

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fredz43 said:
They are doing exactly what they said, first ordered, first delivered, BEGINNING in May. Although they may have missed their earlier target of May by a month, there is still a chance they will make it if inventory arrives sooner. If not, they still came pretty close to their estimate published last Sept.

Come on Fred, I know you can understand how people might think Yamaha was a bit dishonest.


Let me describe why using an analogy. Say I'm creating a new product (let's say a snowblower) but to get one you have to send me a deposit and commit to buy one in July. I advertise on my site that "delivery begins in November" but I know that I could never deliver the bulk in November. In fact out of 100 orders, I deliver 3 in november, 6 in December and 81 units in January and 10 units in february.

I knew that I could only deliver the products in this manner. Wouldn't you say it was a bit dishonest of me to say "delivery begins in November" regardless of the fact that I was technically correct?

If I had never said November and instead mentioned that the bulk was to be delivered in July, I would have certainly lost a lot of orders as the winter is then already half over for many people and they probably would have considered getting another snowblower.
 

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TEN YC said:
If they were honest about delivery, they would have lost sales
Since it's only March, your implication that they were intentionally dishonest about delivery doesn't hold water. I think we should all keep our frustrations and personal "theories" in check until the bikes actually begin showing up in US customer's hands. Yamaha corporate has never promised anything other than deliveries will "...begin May 2011." Anything more certain than that which was promised by sales reps, dealers or anyone else was just speculation.
 

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20valves said:
Since it's only March, your implication that they were intentionally dishonest about delivery doesn't hold water.

I do believe they were intentionally dishonest for marketing purposes, yes. You can read my explanation to Fred above if you want a more thorough explanation
 

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We can all believe what we want to believe and my belief is that there was no master plan to screw us over. I have no problem with what others believe and it would be difficult if not impossible to know what the execs in Japan had in mind. Conspiracy theories are popular these days, so we can add this to the pile. I'm not going to worry about it.
 

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TEN YC said:
I do believe they were intentionally dishonest for marketing purposes, yes.
That's a pretty serious charge.

I personally never understood "deliveries begin in May 2011" to mean I would absolutely, positively be riding my new bike in May. You apparently did.
 

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20valves said:
That's a pretty serious charge.

I personally never understood "deliveries begin in May 2011" to mean I would absolutely, positively be riding my new bike in May. You apparently did.

No, I didn't, and actually never fully expected to get my bike in May. But nonetheless, many people ordered the bike based on the statement "delivery begins in May" that would not have if Yamaha said "bulk of orders come later in the summer" or something similar. That's my main point.

It's not a "serious charge" it is simply a realistic assessment based on how corporations use marketing to their advantage every day. A company liek yamaha does just have one guy come up with some statement and throw it out to everyone. These things are seriously considered and calculated by many people.
 

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20valves said:
I personally never understood "deliveries begin in May 2011" to mean I would absolutely, positively be riding my new bike in May.
Me and a lot of others read it that way. That is the way it was stated all along until now. :eek:
 

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20valves said:
I personally never understood "deliveries begin in May 2011" to mean I would absolutely, positively be riding my new bike in May. You apparently did.
As I understand, even those folks that ordered on Sept 1st are NOT being quoted a May delivery.....

???
 

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This thread has to take the record for the amount of pages, (20) so far, since this forum started. ??? ;D
 

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From MarkJenn post:
Are you aware that Kawasaki is now three months behind (and counting) on ZX10R deliveries? Or that BMW was 8-months late on K1300S deliveries? Or that the original Yamaha PDP for the FJR had people waiting six months beyond initial deliveries for their bike? It's the nature of the business. There are lots of uncertainties in production timelines, one of the biggest being emissions and safety certification. And this may all blow over - Yamaha may now just be being ultra-conservative, promising a date they absolutely know they can make, but will probably beat.

You've got to learn to roll with the punch on these sorts of things. If not, you're just asking for stomach acid. If you need certainty, then there are other bikes to buy. I've waited six months, expect at least another three, and maybe it will be four or even five. I went in knowing it would be at least nine, if its ten or eleven, does it really matter that much? If it does matter, then the PDP is not for you.
I think what MarkJenn writes above says it best.

This thread has to take the record for the amount of pages, (20) so far, since this forum started
Nothing like a good bantering to drive up Post Count.
 

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pqsqac said:
This thread has to take the record for the amount of pages, (20) so far, since this forum started. ??? ;D
Most likely because WHEN our bikes are to be delivered is our #1 question!!! :)
 

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colorider said:
Most likely because WHEN our bikes are to be delivered is our #1 question!!! :)

Well for me it's certainly #2 right behind "what is the nature of human existence." But it's a close second
 

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fredz43 said:
Here is an update sent to dealers today:

Orders for your customers who submitted Super Ténéré deposits now
reflect the estimated month of delivery.
The delivery month can be viewed on YDS under the Sales tab and viewing
your Super Ténéré orders.

We will deliver the units sooner if production arrives sooner than expected.

Orders entered today are being scheduled for delivery the first week of
August, 2011. Enter your customer’s orders as soon as possible to secure
the earliest delivery date!


So, there it is. Don't blame your dealer, he gets his inventory and information from Yamaha.

Mine shows June delivery and if, as they say, production arrives sooner, I may get it sooner. If not, I'll be hoping for the early part of June. :)
This is actually pretty good news if you look at it...

It basically says if you ordered 'yesterday', assuming pre-March... you should get your bike by August and in August, the post-March orders will start delivering.
 
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