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Discontinuation of the S10?

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Longdog Cymru said:
My best friend has had 4 brand new BMW R1200 and 1250GS since 2010. His love of the GS started from when I loaned him my R1150GS and now he has owned every GS since then. That’s fine, but I moved on from BMWs niggling little faults and flakey powder coating and yes, I know not every BMW has these issues, but mine did and it left it’s mark. I like the GS and I loved the telelever front end but I couldn’t live with the issues that I experienced.
So, as far are the gadgets are concerned, do I really need a TFT screen where I need to enter menus and sub-menus just to choose the level of heat in my grips? Can I spare the time my eyes are off the road to adjust the suspension on the fly? Do I really want to to put up with flakey powder coating and the much reported keyless ignition? The answer, for me, is a resounding “no”. My pleasure is actually riding my bike and going places and enjoying the country and countryside that I ride through. My friend has actually had 2 really narrow squeaks through trying to access the menu he wanted while riding. His wife, my oldest friend, was on the pillion at the time and thanks to her presence of mind, accidents were averted. He has gone back to the dealership he bought it from for help and tuition, the sales people and technicians were less than helpful as they fumbled their way through the menus. No, I want ABS, clear, legible information of speed and mileage and cruise control for those long motorway stints, reliability and a good standard of finish. I think I’ll be keeping my S10 for a while yet.
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Amen.
 
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Dirt_Dad said:
Not that bad. 4th seems to be my highest gear to get the front wheel up. Those are usually back on the ground at under 80 MPH. Triple digits would inspire all contact surfaces on the ground. But again, I don't like to ride that fast in general.
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Thing is DD at 80mph on your bike you would still be in control. I would often be doing 50mph in 4th gear on the back wheel on the DR350 i had and it felt easy. The front wheel would be spinning fast which meant to a certain extent you could steer it. What takes it into the danger zone is when the front wheel slows down and you dont have that momentum sending the bike downwards. The zone decreases so the wind is pushing the bike up, making it more riskier. Stunt riders in general use modified bikes so as to make it more predictable. Although there is a great story i think it was Dave Thorpe when somebody i think they had a BMW and he was at a meeting somewhere said i bet you cant wheelie this. He took it down the road, turned it around on the back wheel and brought it back to them. Some people are just so skilled at it. Hopefully someone might come on and tell it correctly.
 
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Didn’t He also attempt a full one wheel lap of the TT course many years ago? Or was that David Taylor?

I know Dougie Lampkin achieved it years after, but think Taylor tried first.
 
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Boris said:
Didn’t He also attempt a full one wheel lap of the TT course many years ago? Or was that David Taylor?

I know Dougie Lampkin achieved it years after, but think Taylor tried first.
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Cant remember who but i think someone did Brands Hatch.
 
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I remember watching an Indoor Trials event on TV. One of the guys competing came into the Arena on his BMX bike and did the course on it. It was amazing.
 
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I ma be leaving a distorted impression. When I wheelie the SAS, the front is only going 6 inches to maybe 18 inches at the highest. It's not up to the balance point. I personally hate slamming big bikes back to the ground after after a high wheelie. No, I don't have the skills to always set it down gently.
 
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Dirt_Dad said:
I ma be leaving a distorted impression. When I wheelie the SAS, the front is only going 6 inches to maybe 18 inches at the highest. It's not up to the balance point. I personally hate slamming big bikes back to the ground after after a high wheelie. No, I don't have the skills to always set it down gently.
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Nor did i. But on a lighter bike you can get away with alot more, the bars dont even have to be straight when you touch down. Off road your doing it alot, if your going left you need the bars going right or you go over the top. Main thing is bikes are to have fun and enjoyment on and your having that in abundance. Lucky you !
 
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I gave up doing big wheelies on the road about 30yrs ago. I should have come off the back of the DR at near 50mph going up through the box. I changed up too quick and had a little throttle left in my hand the bike nearly kicked me off and i was near vertical. I stayed in that position for what seemed like a lifetime, then slowly the front came down and i was ok. What was not ok was that 2 of my mates were behind me and i may well have taken them out as well. I was getting too cocky and inconsiderate to others. Lucky for all of us i got away with it but i had to take that as a life lesson and have stuck to it ever since. I dont take risks around other bikes or vehicles and it pays off.
 
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fac191 said:
I remember watching an Indoor Trials event on TV. One of the guys competing came into the Arena on his BMX bike and did the course on it. It was amazing.
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I watched Sammy Miller do a Trials Demo at Saddleback Park in 1968 and was floored with what he could make a motorcycle do. Today’s riders have taken it much further.

as far as I know he was the ONLY rider ever allowed to ride Saddleback without a helmet
 
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Wallkeeper said:
I watched Sammy Miller do a Trials Demo at Saddleback Park in 1968 and was floored with what he could make a motorcycle do. Today’s riders have taken it much further.

as far as I know he was the ONLY rider ever allowed to ride Saddleback without a helmet
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Is that because his head wouldn't crush like a normal human being?
Dumbness exception I read in a long time, such an example he was.
 
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Wallkeeper said:
I watched Sammy Miller do a Trials Demo at Saddleback Park in 1968 and was floored with what he could make a motorcycle do. Today’s riders have taken it much further.

as far as I know he was the ONLY rider ever allowed to ride Saddleback without a helmet
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Legend.
 
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lund said:
Is that because his head wouldn't crush like a normal human being?
Dumbness exception I read in a long time, such an example he was.
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well, as I recall, he was wearing a nifty tartan snap brim *L*
 
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I was at a Bike Show and they had a display of Mike Hailwoods bikes and some of his riding gear. His back protector was a piece of car tyre with some staps on.
 
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I think it is enevitable this bike was coming in Europe. It makes sense. I wonder though if they will drop one of the 900 models from the range. The XSR is too similar to the MT and the Tracer 9 would be very close to the Tenere. Height difference aside. If it has a decent size tank it could be very popular. Europe has always liked Teneres. The Tiger 900 will be big competition though. I hope its true.
 
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