Discontinuation of the S10?

I don't have an issue with bike makers doing it like KTM. Bikes are not basic transportation for families. They're toys got those who can afford them. What I have a problem with is auto makers making it mandatory to buy a car with all of the bells and whistles whether you want them or not. 'Cuz whether you want to pay the monthly, or one time, fee to use the feature . . . . you still had to pay for the feature to be installed in the car. Great for the manufacturer, not so much for the consumer that's trying to make ends meet.

magic said:

I like the idea of having options on a bike, especially if you can try them before you buy them. I think it was a mistake for Yamaha to only offer the ES version of the S10. I would rather have a standard and then add some premium suspension components later.

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I agree, they could probably easily pull the TFT off the R1 along with many of the great features. They could also easily “tweak” the motor for a bit more and still keep 99% of the reliability. And as you mentioned, add some nice suspension and few other useful parts. They don’t need to invent anything, just pull parts off the shelf. Most of the work is done. They are starting to pull a “Suzuki” and only come out with a few things that are limited or watered down.

Sierra1 said:

4k-ish miles per tire. . . . you proved my point on that one. And if you're not losing traction, it might be coming down to road composition. Our chip seal is known to suck. But my point was that she has more power/torque, down low than she can handle . . . . at least around here.

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That's what I get out of my rears.

I'm somewhere around 4.5k miles on my current rear. Reaching 6k shouldn't be an issue. The front, as usual, looks hardly worn. By the time I reach 6k, I'll have decided to either get another rear of the same, or switch to a set of Tourance Nexts. Still looking for my forever tire.

Im in 2nd and 3rd and 4th a lot it's the kind of roads im riding and i do push it so i understand the wear. Plus modern tyres have a high Silica count so i don't know if they wear quicker. I actually liked the Battlewings that came on it i had no problems with them. Considering the high cost of tyres now over here i would happily use older tyres as they may wear better for me.

I used up my OEs prematurely due to having to re-learn how to ride. It took me a while to realize that I couldn't downshift at the same rpms as a 4-cyl. And that the Tenere didn't need any additional back brake since it was so front heavy and had all that glorious engine braking. I had squared off the rear relatively quick and was also wrong thinking it was the tire's fault. So, by the time I learned her secrets, I was on my second set and had decided to go back to the BattleWings. And although they are still OE, I cannot get them through my dealer. (I'd rather not bring him tires to mount from online, and do not trust myself to do it correctly) Which leaves me still in search.

I came from an 800 Triple when i got the flash done i had the engine braking toned right down as i found it too severe due to issues i have. I can't use the throttle to ride around it like some so im heavy handed. That's why i use the gears like i do. The S10 is a tough old girl so i have faith it will take it. It will take a toll on tyres though. I think most modern tyres are good enough for me but i do prefer some cut in them so i don't use pure road tires. I had PR5's on the S10 and would loose the front at times. I put Avon Trailriders on and found the front to be great for where I go. I don't go off road but do ride shitty lanes where road tyres would get me in trouble.

I'm new too the S10 as well and glad someone asked about the S10 nickname. I was also wondering.THANK YOU.
Just sold my sweet FJR1300 a week a go and replaced it with a nice 2018 S10 with only 16K km on it.
900Km later, I really like this bike.

Sierra1 said:

S uper Ten ere. I just can't do it. All I think of is that shitty little truck.

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t star said:

New to the forum, wondering why the Super Tenere is referred to as S10.

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Yamaha4Ever said:

I'm new too the S10 as well and glad someone asked about the S10 nickname. I was also wondering.THANK YOU.

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On a funny note about nicknames, the word tenere is similar to the Spanish "ternera" which stands for "beef". So we call the super tenere as "the beef" or the "super beef"

And I also have a question. Some people has said something about "getting the bike flashed" What does it mean?

Quique said:

On a funny note about nicknames, the word tenere is similar to the Spanish "ternera" which stands for "beef". So we call the super tenere as "the beef" or the "super beef"

And I also have a question. Some people has said something about "getting the bike flashed" What does it mean?

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Flashed is the same as having the ECU remapped.

Quique said:

And I also have a question. Some people has said something about "getting the bike flashed" What does it mean?

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Modern vehicles makes extensive use of onboard computers. The one managing the engine is referred as the ECU (Electronic Control Unit). Flashing the bike means altering the programs used by the ECU.
It can change a LOAD of parameters such as fuel maps, throttle maps and literally hundreds of other thing. Most engines nowadays are not running at their bests. Manufacturers have to deal with emission restrictions, fuel efficiency, etc... When done right. Reprogramming the ECU can unleash all the potential an engine has to give. When done right So best to deal with folks who know what they are doing.

But we digress, the subject of this thread is about "Discontinuation of the S10"...

Thankyou guys for your answers.

Yamaha4Ever said:

But we digress, the subject of this thread is about "Discontinuation of the S10"...

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Don't worry about digressing, we do it all the time. We like to provide the moderators with some entertainment.

Quique said:

On a funny note about nicknames, the word tenere is similar to the Spanish "ternera" which stands for "beef". So we call the super tenere as "the beef" or the "super beef"

And I also have a question. Some people has said something about "getting the bike flashed" What does it mean?

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Boris said:

Flashed is the same as having the ECU remapped.

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Yeah, so don't go flashing your super beef.

Sierra1 said:

Yeah, so don't go flashing your super beef.

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If I could get that done i wood.

I made my homework.
Beef is the meat from adult cattle, bulls or cows.
Veal is the meat from young cattle. Young cattle are called calves or calf in singular. Male or female.
The Spanish term "ternera" stands for both, the calf, one year old or so and the veal. In this case, it's the animal.
So the nickname for the super tenere is super calf. (around one year old)
Thanks fac, that astonishing "wood" made me think about it.

Quique said:

I made my homework.
Beef is the meat from adult cattle, bulls or cows.
Veal is the meat from young cattle. Young cattle are called calves or calf in singular. Male or female.
The Spanish term "ternera" stands for both, the calf, one year old or so and the veal. In this case, it's the animal.
So the nickname for the super tenere is super calf. (around one year old)
Thanks fac, that astonishing "wood" made me think about it.

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Your welcome Sir. Just knowing people are thinking about my wood makes me rise up.

Dirt_Dad said:

CW let me ride his flashed S10. I remember coming back telling him I could tell if I tried I could have easily lit up the rear tire. He nodded and said, 'yep.' I didn't feel it would lift, just spin. I didn't test that theory, that's a bit more disrespectful that I can to be on someone else's bike. But I do remember how heavy the front end was on all my Teneres. Tried endless times off pavement to lift the front and all it would ever do is spin. Somehow, the KTM is built for power to the ground. Want to wheelie off pavement, sure...enjoy. On the flip side, the Tenere doesn't headshake at 35 MPH when loaded up for travel. Can't say that about the KTM.

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S10 wheelie. Not sure who the hooligan was, but rumor has it the bike had about 275 kmi on it.//cloud.tapatalk.com/s/63604adaae909/20210723_111506.mp4

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holligl said:

S10 wheelie. Not sure who the hooligan was, but rumor has it the bike had about 275 kmi on it.//cloud.tapatalk.com/s/63604adaae909/20210723_111506.mp4

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Pretty sure I was there that day. I do love that road.

Tenere will definitely wheelie on the pavement. It just takes more effort than I personally care to put into it. I'm more a fan of the throttle roll-on wheelie. I found all my non-flashed Teneres very reluctant reward me with that prize. Pop a clutch, or compress the front then yank, even roll on when the forks are unloading and it will come right up...just takes a bit more effort.