make an exception will you, but if I have to have a chain I will...
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You haven't heard?
NASA isn't loved anymore.
Ask Texas Yamaha (down the street from NASA) where their customer base went. Seems engineers really appreciate Yamaha products and used to be my dealers bread m butter. Less NASA engineers = less bizz at Texas Yamaha.
So, no gaiters\booties for you!.
NASA isn't loved anymore.
Ask Texas Yamaha (down the street from NASA) where their customer base went. Seems engineers really appreciate Yamaha products and used to be my dealers bread m butter. Less NASA engineers = less bizz at Texas Yamaha.
So, no gaiters\booties for you!.
Alrighty then,
Having just brought my new 2013 S10 home on Thursday. I will need this thread closed ASAP. Not wanting to look at another tempting Tenere type bike for quite a while, thank you.
Although I would have bought the 660T if it were available here.
Probably the best solution would be to just hit my computer with a hammer, and go ride my new bike. Would solve more problems than it created.
Having just brought my new 2013 S10 home on Thursday. I will need this thread closed ASAP. Not wanting to look at another tempting Tenere type bike for quite a while, thank you.
Although I would have bought the 660T if it were available here.
Probably the best solution would be to just hit my computer with a hammer, and go ride my new bike. Would solve more problems than it created.
i want one 
This is the bike I´ve been hoping for too - in a different state of tune to the MT-09 of course. But the MT-09 is much lighter than I expected, and hopefully that means an ADV version will be lighter as well. I would have thought 480lbs would have been a good target for a reasonbly budget version of the triple ADV bike (a bit less than a Wee Strom), but 414 wet for the MT-09 has forced a rethink! If the thing is built tough like the S10 I would expect a bit of weight gain over that, but seem to me that 440lbs would be reasonable to expect? Woo Hoo! I could really make use of something 130lbs lighter than the S10!
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I hope it's true, a 800 to replace my wifes klr650, ::015:: that would be the perfect two bikes 1200, 800.
I really wanted an 800 in the beginning, so this is great news.
I really wanted an 800 in the beginning, so this is great news.
But at least you would only have to pay half what us suckers in the UK do ::008::Dallara said:And even if the Euros do get it first, we may never get it here in the USA at all...
I hope they do build one, but for my 99% on-road, long tours and mucho two-up I will keep the 1200.
An 800 Triple makes sense, just hope they don't do what many other manufacturers do and throw a (relatively) revvy engine from a sportsbike into a parts-bin special and call it an adventure bike, however the danger of stroking it and bringing down the power output / peak revs is the press will hop on it, take it to a track for some laptimes, down the strip for some SS 1/4's and declare it utter shite, especially if it does not have a re-active starter button damping system to ensure minimal stress to your thumb when you press the starter button (which also E-Mails the nearest Starbucks with your Coffee order and ETA) like the latest BMW's
Thankfully, that fact didn't stop Yamaha from seeing fit to build our 1200 Tenere as more than one of the pretenders.Rasher said:
If I was to trust ANYONE to do it right, it would be Yamaha.
We'll see.
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I don't know. I think rasher may be right. If this is a European focused bike then what you are looking at is an adventure styled bike, not a real one. IE more HP is better, Mottard cornering, big power, switches. Which means in the real off road you get to snap sub frames, burn out clutches and get tossed off at the slightest sign of sand / ruts. The only plus I can see here is that at least it looks like it will be easier to pick up.
But if YAMAHA do a "REAL ADV" and an "MCN ADV" then they can just say that the REAL one is stronger and give them the optioned up Euro Model all the time. (with the standard price). Surely YAMAHA must know how the game is played now.
It really can't be too hard to re jig a platform to work well. Way less than a completely new bike.
I suppose in the real world though, if it feels good on a test ride and the price is right and the reviews are good you get a sale and it seems 95% of people just want a day tripper, 1 up bike that can plug around some dirty roads / tracks if needed.
I thought the Tiger XC was OK but it it still had that "I am a street bike with knobs" feel about it. Motor was nice, except for that whine but the rest felt a bit cheap and un natural off road, lighter but not quite right.
All I really wanted from YAMAHA was a XT1200Z on a diet. They already had the motor in the TDM which is fine.
Anyway. Big Blue will be around for a while. She gets a big pampering this winter ;D
But it IS winter on the other side if the world. Right?
What pampering?
What pampering?
All the fluids, grease etc, some farkles etc. Clean the nooks and crannies, inspect. Have some holidays coming up o now is the time to do it. ;Dsnakebitten said:
My general service regime. Ride it all year and do service in the middle. That means the bike has to go all year without needing attention, which is why certain brands don't fit into that regime. (I might make exceptions for oil changes though.)
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Other side of the equator or southern hemisphere.snakebitten said:
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A concept of an 800, I would have loved a photo to persuade me.
Every "other".tomatocity said:
Half way around the ball. AND on the other side of the equator.
Basically, the mirror opposite of Texas.
snakebitten said:Every "other".
Half way around the ball. AND on the other side of the equator.
Basically, the mirror opposite of Texas.
No way Aussies are the "mirror opposite" of Texans!!! ???
Every Aussie I've ever met was a natural Texan, and more like folks from Texas than those from most other US States!!!
Dallara
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I'm not sure how to take that. I've never met an Aussie who was anything like the atypical Texan.Dallara said:No way Aussies are the "mirror opposite" of Texans!!! ???
Every Aussie I've ever met was a natural Texan, and more like folks from Texas than those from most other US States!!!
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I can't wait to see this bike if they make it. It would be hard for me to sell the 1200 to buy an 800, but maybe the wife will want one and I can ride it some times. >
I actually think the UK is a bit different to much of Europe.
We have been obsessed with Sportsbikes for @30 years, the bike "to have" went from GPZ's to GSXR's to FZR's to Fireblades to R1's to GSX-Rs (again) to ZX's.... round and around for three decades.
Whilst we were eagerly buying magazines that would tell us which is the fastest bike around donnington this month, a lot of European riders were discovering the joys of Africa Twins and Super Tenere's, I don't know what happened to this market, but I suspect they all ride a GS now :question:
Yamaha obviously want a slice of what's left after that in Europe, and after Superbikes in the UK (already declining in favour of adv and naked bikes) which seems to be the likes of Street Triples and Monsters, I think the four cylinder Z750's / GSR750's and Fazer 8's don't appeal to the Sunday warrior who seem to want something "different"
I guess Yamaha are trying to appeal as different against Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki, the benefits of a quirky bike with character coupled with the Japanese reliability.
I think most Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki owners would actually be on a Triumph / BMW / Ducati / Guzzi / KTM if it was not for worries over reliability and delaer support - real or imagined, this is all that has stopped the Europeans putting the Japs out of business long ago.
We have been obsessed with Sportsbikes for @30 years, the bike "to have" went from GPZ's to GSXR's to FZR's to Fireblades to R1's to GSX-Rs (again) to ZX's.... round and around for three decades.
Whilst we were eagerly buying magazines that would tell us which is the fastest bike around donnington this month, a lot of European riders were discovering the joys of Africa Twins and Super Tenere's, I don't know what happened to this market, but I suspect they all ride a GS now :question:
Yamaha obviously want a slice of what's left after that in Europe, and after Superbikes in the UK (already declining in favour of adv and naked bikes) which seems to be the likes of Street Triples and Monsters, I think the four cylinder Z750's / GSR750's and Fazer 8's don't appeal to the Sunday warrior who seem to want something "different"
I guess Yamaha are trying to appeal as different against Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki, the benefits of a quirky bike with character coupled with the Japanese reliability.
I think most Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki and Kawasaki owners would actually be on a Triumph / BMW / Ducati / Guzzi / KTM if it was not for worries over reliability and delaer support - real or imagined, this is all that has stopped the Europeans putting the Japs out of business long ago.
squarebore said:
Take it as a *HUGE* compliment! ::008::
As you can see from my profile location below my avatar I'm a Texan, and a true Native one. I've spent a lot of time around Aussies, both in J24 sailboat racing and in auto racing... A wonderful, young Aussie Sheila even lived with me for quite a long time, too... And if there was one thing I've found it's this, and I'll try phrasing it a different way:
Texans and Aussies seem to share a lot of the same traits. Independent. Self-reliant. Outspoken. Suspicious of government. Stubborn. Obstinate. Questioning of authority. Gregarious. Enjoying of life. Quick to help. Friendly. Open. Honest. Trustworthy.
I could go on, but you get the idea. For me to equate Aussies to Texans is about as high a compliment as I can give!
Dallara
p.s. - and I realize you may be pulling my leg a bit since you said "atypical Texan", as in *not* representative of a type, group, or class...
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Whoa there cowboy .... I'm a full on Texan and I ain't non of those things. Not one. Well I may be obstinate and very possibly a touch stubborn .... But I'm DEFINITELY NOT OUTSPOKEN ... and I don't need anybody ... and I won't be told what to do. Ain't got time for a good time unless it's all the time and I can't be trusted ... not at all. I'll nick anything from anyone ... and generally misbehave given the opportunity. I'm a right b*stard me. Now I come to think of it I've just described your bog standard Aussie.Dallara said:
) ) Only joshing.I ain't so sure we're the same though ... not really :-\