Will I get parts failure

[MIKE R]

I'm on my 3rd S10 (2011 1st Gen.....2013 WorldCrosser.......2015 2nd Gen) and have covered c60k.

The only hiccup so far was a nasty misfire on the way to Norway and the Arctic Circle this summer caused by dirty petrol picked up (by pure coincidence) in Denmark!

Mike

 

[Gigitt]

100% - by thinking about it you have jinxed yourself!

::021::

 

[Nikolajsen]

100% - by thinking about it you have jinxed yourself!

::021::

LOL
reall don't believe in this kind of "superstition"

 

[Sierra1]

The Motorcycle.com list really wasn't any big surprise was it? People are going to buy/ride what makes them smile; as it should be. Avery good friend of mine has an '04 H-D bagger with over 200K miles. He has torn it down numerous times and put it back together. BUT, he knew that going in, and it was one of the things he liked about H-D; tinkering. I, on the other hand, don't mind scheduled maintenance, but hate fixing failed parts. ::001::

 

[EricV]

Since I bought my new 2017 S10, and joined this forum, that is very informative, and with so much knowledge.
I have been reading so much about the problems in the poll, that I am beginning to think, that I might have chosen the wrong bike, regarding parts failure...::

You bought the right bike. Enjoy riding it. Odds are very, very good that you will never have any problem with the bike of any kind. I bought a 2012 model in 2011 and put 83k miles on it doing normal scheduled service before I had a failure. That failure was at the end of a month long, 8k mile trip to Alaska. The Cam chain tensioner failed. It had been obviously noisy for the last couple of weeks on the trip, but quieted down after warm up. Had I not been on a trip with few options for dealer service, it would have gone in much sooner and I would not have suffered a failure, just needed a new CCT.

You're not, by your own admission, going to put as many miles on as I did. My bike was fixed and I put 26 more miles on it w/o any kind of issue. The current owner is enjoying it very much. I bought a left over 2015, Gen II, bike and have nearly 20k on it now with zero problems.

As others have said, look at other specific bike forums and you'll typically see a lot more issues and knashing of the teeth over fixes.

 

[Fatallybitten]

I am picking up my third Tenere this month, a 2018 ES. My first was a left over Gen 1 (2013) that I picked up in 2014 and put 30,000 trouble free kms on. The current owner has put another 20,000 kms on the bike with no issues. My second was a left over 2014 ES that I bought in 2015 and put 66,000 kms on. The only issues I had with that bike were headlights (seem to have a life of ~30-35,000 kms) and leaky final drive seal at 50,000 kms that was easy to replace. Other than those issues all I did was ride it, do scheduled maintenance, change tires, occasionally wash it and keep it in-doors when it wasn't out on the road. Contrast that with a KTM 990 I owned before going blue. That bike had short service intervals, was difficult to work on, ate chains and sprockets, and had electrical gremlins. It was the reason I converted to Yamaha. I ride 20-30,000 kms a year including at least one 10,000+ km trip. I never think twice about loading up the Tenere and pointing it at the horizon.

 

[RCinNC]

Since I bought my new 2017 S10, and joined this forum, that is very informative, and with so much knowledge.
I have been reading so much about the problems in the poll, that I am beginning to think, that I might have chosen the wrong bike, regarding parts failure...

That statement right there illustrates one of the pitfalls of online forums.

These bikes are extremely reliable; however, reliable doesn't equal zero mechanical issues. You can't build a mechanical device that has a zero failure rate over time, especially something as complex as a motorcycle. Everything is going to break or wear out at some point. The problem with a forum can be exactly as I described earlier; you listen to ten or fifteen people saying that the bike is shit because of Problem A or Problem B or Problem C, and those fifteen experiences start to seem significant. That seems like a lot of people, especially when you probably don't know anyone personally who has a Super Tenere; then it seems like "Oh My God, fifteen random people have X problem, so it must be systemic". Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but fifteen (or twenty, or thirty) isn't necessarily as significant as it seems at face value, because you have no idea how many guys out there have never had Problem X. You're actually second guessing your purchase of a really good motorcycle, not because you've personally had any problems with it, but because some others have. If that's the case, you should probably steer clear of online forums when you're choosing a new bike; every flaw, major or minor, is hashed over ad nauseam on every forum on every model of bike that there is. On the Stromtroopers forum, there's a thread with almost 2200 posts where guys have heated arguments over what oil to use. If you read forums like that, it would make you think that if you put the wrong oil in your bike, it would explode like a hand grenade.

You're not going to find a perfect bike. You're probably not going to find a bike with less reliability issues than a Super Tenere. I'd go even further out on a limb and say that any bike you buy from one of the Big Four Japanese manufacturers isn't going to be a mechanical lemon. And for every one of those bikes, you'll find people discussing the bikes' flaws, sometimes on threads that last for a couple thousand posts. It's good to research a model before you buy it, but you definitely have to keep the information you find in perspective.

 

[Sierra1]

::026:: But isn't it the Big Four? (Honda, Kawi, Yamaha, Suzuki?)

 

[RCinNC]

LOL, Sierra1, yes, you're right...had a brain freeze when I wrote that. I went back and edited my post, so I don't look like a total wank.

 

[Don T]

I now have +64.000 100% trouble free km on my 2015.
Plan on keeping the bike for at least another 3 years. This will most likely see the bike pass the 150.000 km mark. I don't expect to experience any failures during my time of ownership, as long as I keep servicing the bike properly.

You can experience part failure with any bike, but the S10 is (according to most accounts) one of the bikes on the market least prone to failures - I've voted 0% as I believe it's the option that (by far) comes closest to what you can expect.

 

[Nikolajsen]

Thank you all ::008::
It seems like a lot of owners drive +60000 km without ANY failure.

Hopefully much more to vote

 

[magic]

Relax and enjoy the ride. You have a Gen2 bike so the CCT, clutch and high idle problems should not be an issue. You are not a real high mileage rider and you have the extended warranty. You will be buying tires, oil, oil filters, spark plugs, air filters and gas and that's probably it. Oh and don't forget about all the farkles. The Super Tenere is a reliable bike. The only maintenance issue is the valve adjustment. Hopefully your Yamaha dealer can handle this when the time comes. I have a Gen1 bike and this is really my only concern. My bike has been trouble free for 17000 miles. (27,000 kilometers) ::021::

 

[Sierra1]

LOL, Sierra1, yes, you're right...had a brain freeze when I wrote that. I went back and edited my post, so I don't look like a total wank.

Phew. I thought maybe I had missed a merger. It's happening more and more. I didn't vote in the poll, because I don't KNOW. Now, I THINK (expect) that the bike will be trouble free.

 

[RonH]

Get a service manual and do all service yourself is my advice. The valve check is high on the "nervous factor" for sure, but I'd much rather do it myself.

 

[mebgardner]

Make sure your dealer is a good one if you trust him to do any work. I don't trust any of them after too many problems. Otherwise, most likely you won't have any problems. Friend of mine recently went to the hospital for hernea surgury and came out dead. Lot of motorcycles suffer the same fate when you entrust others to do work.

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[Nikolajsen]

Hmm
36 vote.....I was hoping for many more

 

[RCinNC]

What exactly are you hoping for? If you get a bunch of votes in one category or another, then what? Or is this just some sort of social experiment?

 

[Ramseybella]

Hmm
36 vote.....I was hoping for many more

They are to busy riding, i know i am!! ::008::

 

[WJBertrand]

Thank you all, for taking your time to answer, in words and in the poll ::012::

I have long before i bought my S10, seen that Yamaha, is the most reliable with a failure rate of 11%, like the link below.
http://www.motorcycle.com/top10/the-10-most-reliable-motorcycle-companies.html/10

But this also depends on wether the dealers world wide, reports correct back to Yamaha.
And the final user, maybe some just fix the "problems" them self...
I would trust a poll like this one, more than the other official one.

I know, that the official one might be more trustworty when it comes to the big failure. But often it is the small failure, that is the most annoying.

Anyway, I am very satisfied with the fact, that many of the problems seems to be on 1 gen. (but as I can read here, also 1 gen. can run without problems)
I actually was looking at buying a used S10, and the used one in DK, is still 95% gen 1. But the difference in money was too small.

So far 21 have voted, I hope for many more

So that article references a Consumer Reports article. Consumer Reports gets their reliability survey data directly from owners, there is no dealer or manufacture dependency or involvement at all. As a subscriber to CR, I receive a large envelope every year (recently the survey has moved to an on-line method) asking me to report failures of numerous kinds of products from TV sets to washing machines, vacuum cleaners, cars and of course motorcycles. By tapping directly into the owners experience they avoid bias that a dealer or a manufacturer would cause. They are also able to learn about failures and repairs that may have been performed by the owner that a dealer wouldn't even know of. I voted zero because the CR reported 11% rate was closer to zero than to 25%.

 

[Nikolajsen]

So that article references a Consumer Reports article. Consumer Reports gets their reliability survey data directly from owners, there is no dealer or manufacture dependency or involvement at all. As a subscriber to CR, I receive a large envelope every year (recently the survey has moved to an on-line method) asking me to report failures of numerous kinds of products from TV sets to washing machines, vacuum cleaners, cars and of course motorcycles. By tapping directly into the owners experience they avoid bias that a dealer or a manufacturer would cause. They are also able to learn about failures and repairs that may have been performed by the owner that a dealer wouldn't even know of. I voted zero because the CR reported 11% rate was closer to zero than to 25%.

I did not know that, was sure that it was reportet by Yamaha dealers...thanks ::008::