Might i inquire where you located Bedliner in a spray bomb?Tiger_one said:Interesting on the pads. I have almost 28,000 miles and still on the originals, they are little over half worn out. I must not stop much! ::013::
Decided to paint my H&B bashplate with bed liner. Etched it with aluminum cleaner and sprayed one light coat (just enough to cover) as this stuff is heavy, LOL. Now to wait about 24 hours before mounting.
I don't know what you mean ;DTNWalker said:
I've been meaning to ask my shop if Yamahas have an ALDL, or OBD II type of connector for a diagnostic scan tool. It would be cool to watch the data. A couple things we can't see that could give this hard start; a coolant temp sensor dropping into the negatives, rare, but I've seen -40 on a scan a couple times, a TPS not reading right, and do these things have a MAF or MAP/Baro sensor? EFI, it has to have a Baro at least.GrahamD said:
Err, NO, don't do that. ::019:: The hard starts are due to a flooded condition, not a lean one. Follow the normal procedure after long term storage. Hard starts are nearly always caused by the actions at the last shut down, rather than actions during start up.autoteach said:
Err, no, it isn't flooding the machine, it is just getting the fuel pressure up to snuff. And, if you have "too high" of fuel pressure causing your injectors to leak, dear gawd... sorry, one of two scenarios need to present themselves for this to occur. first, an actual leaking injector (call yamaha, warranty) or second, a FPR that is broken and obstructing return flow completely coupled with a new fuel pump capable of far more pressure than the stock unit. if this happens, call a doctor. I surmise that it is "8-stroking" because of a lean charge and then being too rich as a result and causing a fouling situation, which then is remedied by throttle which shuts off the injectors during cranking. If you want to get to the bottom of it don't look for injector pulses, put in a fuel pressure gauge and watch for that over an extended storage. Also, people would be best to let the vehicle cycle through its gauge sweep and other shenanigans that the computer needs to do during self diagnostics on re-initiation. Cranking before it has had a chance to do its deal can cause issues (baro, HO2S, etc)EricV said:
WTF? I'm not claiming to be all knowledgeable here. Just pointing out that your suggestion isn't going to help, and may CAUSE problems. That's from my personal, first hand experience with the Super Tenere, not just based on general EFI knowledge. I'm not angst filled, just trying to prevent someone from trying your suggestion, only to create a hard starting problem that might not have existed if they had just started the bike in the normal manner.autoteach said:
But, you see, you don't know enough about EFI to understand that not only was I supplying reasons for the hard start you explain but also a solution or two. Your understanding of EFI, or lack there of, is the basis for your argument that I am telling people something risky. I would be willing to go out to the garage and cycle the key 30 times and then start it and tell you the results, but I doubt that anyone would be willing to believe me. I did just do it 10 times and it didn't cause any problems. Here is another possibility :'( maybe people are starting them for a short duration, under which it is on cold start enrichment and they are shutting it down to come back and restart it later. This is a HUGE problem with four stroke snowmobiles and watercraft (PWC).EricV said:WTF? I'm not claiming to be all knowledgeable here. Just pointing out that your suggestion isn't going to help, and may CAUSE problems. That's from my personal, first hand experience with the Super Tenere, not just based on general EFI knowledge. I'm not angst filled, just trying to prevent someone from trying your suggestion, only to create a hard starting problem that might not have existed if they had just started the bike in the normal manner.
I ignored most of your previous post because it didn't have anything to do with the hard starting. I have no desire to have a pissing match about who knows more about EFI. :
