What DON’T you like about your S10?

Longdog Cymru

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Maybe what don’t you like is a bit strong so maybe I should include what would you change if you could. So here goes, this is the one thing that I would like to change and it is……. The wheels!

If I could, I would have a pair of cast wheels for mine, (I don‘t ride it off-road you see and cast wheel would be lighter), or failing that, a pair of BMW type tubeless spoked rims because the Yamaha wheels have that impossible to clean channel in the centre.
 

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Maybe what don’t you like is a bit strong so maybe I should include what would you change if you could. So here goes, this is the one thing that I would like to change and it is……. The wheels!

If I could, I would have a pair of cast wheels for mine, (I don‘t ride it off-road you see and cast wheel would be lighter), or failing that, a pair of BMW type tubeless spoked rims because the Yamaha wheels have that impossible to clean channel in the centre.
agree,
don,t ride off road would love a set of cast wheels to

rob
 

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I don’t like the traction control resets when you turn off the key. It would be nic to be able to turn off the abs.
The stock headlights are poor.

All easily corrected except the abs going back to default.
 

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A bit less weight, a few more BHP and better brakes (although a few less kilos might sort the latter).

Mostly though, a bit less weight.
 

sheikyerbooty

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weight. but that makes it comfy on those loooong highway days. she's a bit thirsty i reckon, but maybe thats just my tendency to thrash the shit out of it. my mates ktm came stock with 90 degree valve stem offsets and i was spewing at having to spend 10 bucks on an adapter. i'll think of something else
 

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Yes if cast wheels was an option that’s probably what I would choose, probably cheaper as well.

The very crappy headlights is my number one complaint , Yamaha definitely needs to wake up this is 2022 not 1962 !

Would be nice for me if the seat was about 1 inch lower. Yes the bike is top heavy but if the seat was an inch less tall things would be quite a bit easier for me. The stock seat wasn’t the worst but I replaced it with a Corbin which was much better but on rough roads it was to hard so I replaced it with RDL which other than being to tall for me is excellent.

A little bigger radiator would be nice.

The rear brake pedal should be a little bigger but that’s never actually caused me any trouble.

Self adjusting valves would be nice or at least valves that would be much easier to adjust but I suspect the 1200 Tenere engine will not be produced much longer, hopefully they will come out with a much smoother and easier to maintain three cylinder.
 
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tntmo

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I guess I don't understand why someone buys an adventure bike and doesn't take it off road? Anyway, having a cast wheel option would have been pretty cool for those interested. BMW and HD both have that for their ADV offerings. The valve adjustment thing isn't a big deal in my opinion either, three times gets the bike to 100,000 miles.

Simple fixes that should come from the factory: Having a riding setup that doesn't reset every time you shut it off, and selectable ABS on/off. 90 degree valve stems on the wheels. A less forward sloped seat. Bigger side stand foot. Slightly higher front fender/more fender to tire clearance. Better lighting all around.

Any of that could be done easy and cheap. Higher hp and lower weight is a complete redesign, I don't know if that's going to happen.
 

Streethawk

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LOVE the bike but I dislike:

* Halogen headlight bulbs (LED headlights should be a modernization feature for 2022; forgoing bold new graphics if money is tight at Yamaha. Lol)
* No current option for manual suspension (I'd forgo the ES convenience for stiffer suspension)
* The seemingly jungle gym access for valve cover removal (I haven't done this job yet though)
* Wishing the high position for the seat was a bit higher (maybe 1/4" more)
* The inaccessible improved fueling/smoothness and power delivery without an ECU flash (this should be standard imo)
* The windscreen adjustment procedure (one handed smooth adjustment would be a dream come true)
* An extended front fender not being standard
* Those EVIL and sharp edged front turn signal housings (I keep losing skin on those things! Dull that ginsu knife edge a bit Yamaha!)
* Hazard light button location (would much rather have it on the left grip switch housing)
 
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Boris

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I guess I don't understand why someone buys an adventure bike and doesn't take it off road?
In the UK and I guess a lot of mainland Europe, we have nowhere close to the access for off road riding as you appear to have in the US and other parts of the world. In fact I’d go as far to say in parts of the UK it’s difficult for off road riding, not impossible, but difficult.
Adventure bikes also fit well for the taller, bigger built person and make for a better distance bike than a full on tourer type bike.
 

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Cast wheels :oops:, haha, I can't believe how many prefer cast wheels.

Less weight is a no brainer, they could had used aluminum for the frame. If you want a shaft drive your going to add weight, that is just the way it is.
IMO some of the ergo are off, like the control levers are big and clumsy, the shifter and brake pedals also not correct. I ride a lot off tarmac and having good ergo in a standing position and sitting position is very tricky and the Tenere is not there.
I also agree having the traction control default is a pain in the ass. ABS off would be good in some occasion.
The other big thing I would had like to see is an off road gearing in the transmission, with much lower ratio's. I have seen this done, I believe Suzuki did this on one of their enduro's in the past. I guess that would be called a "dual range transmission".

Otherwise its a great adventure bike, thats why I ride one, it will take a beating and not quit.
 
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bimota

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In the UK and I guess a lot of mainland Europe, we have nowhere close to the access for off road riding as you appear to have in the US and other parts of the world. In fact I’d go as far to say in parts of the UK it’s difficult for off road riding, not impossible, but difficult.
Adventure bikes also fit well for the taller, bigger built person and make for a better distance bike than a full on tourer type bike.
spot on,

i have no interest in off road, i only ride adventure bikes as for a taller bigger person they are the most comfortable bike for touring and all day riding

rob
 
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