What DON’T you like about your S10?

Gerard

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Less weight is a no brainer, they could had used aluminum for the frame
Far less forgiving than a steel frame on the rough stuff and much harder to repair.
But yes, a bit lighter would be nice and disabling the the ABS on the fly. I did the mod but you have to stop the bike to get it back.
Apart from that, i can't think of anything else. Having said that, my next bike will probably be a Tracer. As much as i loved my FJRs, they are great for the open road but just too heavy for the tight switchbacks. But will still be riding the ST in the foreseeable future
 

Goldwing

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Maybe what don’t you like is a bit strong so maybe I should include what would you change if you could. So here goes, this is the one thing that I would like to change and it is……. The wheels!

If I could, I would have a pair of cast wheels for mine, (I don‘t ride it off-road you see and cast wheel would be lighter), or failing that, a pair of BMW type tubeless spoked rims because the Yamaha wheels have that impossible to clean channel in the centre.
I didn't like anything with my 2014, sold it for a 2019 R1250GS and have not looked back. I think the GS is the best ADV bike out there.
 

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it's real simple. Get busy offering what the competion is offering or get busy going out of business.

And if you want to dominate the market place offer what the competiom has not thought of but the buying public wants.
 

Fennellg

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I’ve a funny feeling it won’t pull through
As for me I have a fractured spine (S3 vertebrae) and left wrist


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I have never crashed . Well Over 500k nock on wood.
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magic

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All in all it's a pretty decent bike. So, here's my list of don't likes.
1) call it throttle snatch or jumpy throttle. The fueling, especially at low speeds needs to be improved by Yamaha.
2 Why can't Yamaha put self cancelling turn signals and 4 way flashers on the bike?
3) PIA valve checks
4) I would like a lower 1st gear and a taller 6th gear.
5) Cast wheels as mentioned would be nice. I know spoked wheels are stronger, but I'll take my chances.
6) The stock suspension is adequate, but not that great.
7) An accurate speedometer would be nice, my 2013 is way off.
8) Sure the bike is heavy...not sure where any substantial amount of weight could be saved. Considering most of us have 30+lbs. of accessories added on.
Like I said, it's been a decent bike, but I bought it new with the Yamaha side cases, crash bars, skid plate, tall wind shield and the 5 year warranty for $10,000.
 

Panman

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It's a good stable mate to the FJR, they are both good traveling machine's! The FJR can travel real hard all day and not breath hard and can do decent gravel Rd's.
The Ten runs out of breath a bit more easily but the Top of the World Hwy and the Dalton are what it's made for.
I'm 6'2" and as far as the ergo's it fits me fine, my seat was built in the low position but at the high position height.
But the truth be told, I'm a simple man and have learned to be happy with things that don't break.
 

StephanSF

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I don’t like the traction control resets when you turn off the key. It would be nic to be able to turn off the abs.
The stock headlights are poor.

All easily corrected except the abs going back to default.
Ive looked at some other bikes and it seems like a lot of them revert to some "safer" setting when you turn them off and on again. With respect to the ABS there is a workaround to turn it off, put it on center stand and in 2nd gear and let it run/spin the wheel for a bit. The other option is to wire up a bypass siwtch which is documented here on the forums somewhere and is pretty simple to do. I have done that and do turn off my ABS on occasion, but less than I anticipated.
 

Boris

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All in all it's a pretty decent bike.
I’m with you here, it’s a good, dependable and capable bike. But there’s always room for improvement, and being a 10+ year old design, those potential improvements are becoming more and more obvious.
 

Longdog Cymru

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There is a lot to be said for a bike without a TFT screen, active suspension, quick-shifter, etc in this day and age. The instruments on my S10 tell me all I need to know without having an “infotainment” system to distract me with taking/making phone calls and deciding what music to listen to and I can adjust the suspension manually according to where and how I travel and I am quite capable of clutchless changes thank you. That doesn’t mean that the S10 can’t be improved though!
 

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My least favorite thing is doing the valve clearance checks/adjustments. Hydraulics would be nice here. The other is the tallness of the bike. Since I bought it new in 2015, my left knee has degraded and since I need to step up on the left peg to mount the bike this has become more and more difficult. I’m getting a left knee replacement this coming Wednesday, so once healed we’ll see where I stand - so to speak. I imagine I’ll be off the bike for a few weeks though.


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My least favorite thing is doing the valve clearance checks/adjustments. Hydraulics would be nice here. The other is the tallness of the bike. Since I bought it new in 2015, my left knee has degraded and since I need to step up on the left peg to mount the bike this has become more and more difficult. I’m getting a left knee replacement this coming Wednesday, so once healed we’ll see where I stand - so to speak. I imagine I’ll be off the bike for a few weeks though.


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My least favorite thing is doing the valve clearance checks/adjustments. Hydraulics would be nice here. The other is the tallness of the bike. Since I bought it new in 2015, my left knee has degraded and since I need to step up on the left peg to mount the bike this has become more and more difficult. I’m getting a left knee replacement this coming Wednesday, so once healed we’ll see where I stand - so to speak. I imagine I’ll be off the bike for a few weeks though.


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Good luck! My left knee was troublesome for 30+ yrs. Yes, I had to mount and dismount on the peg as well. I really torqued it in 2021 and finally got a replacement last year. Couldn't have gone smoother and was feeling good about riding this year....till another unrelated health issue cropped up. FWIW I was off the bike for 6-7 weeks after surgery. After that, no real problems. And the fact that there was now no arthritis pain cropping up when I rode was great.
 

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In the UK and I guess a lot of mainland Europe, we have nowhere close to the access for off road riding as you appear to have in the US and other parts of the world. In fact I’d go as far to say in parts of the UK it’s difficult for off road riding, not impossible, but difficult.
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my mate paying me a visit on his job bike CRF250. For the last 5years his day job is policing all the off road areas in the county that it’s illegal to ride on. Admittedly its mainly kids on field bikes and quads he’s after, but any bike on a track would come under his remit. Oh and there’s four of them too, for one of the smallest county’s in the UK.
 

Bmwdumptruck

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If I could, I would have a pair of cast wheels for mine, (I don‘t ride it off-road you see and cast wheel would be lighter), or failing that, a pair of BMW type tubeless spoked rims because the Yamaha wheels have that impossible to clean channel in the centre.
This comes back to Yamaha failing miserably to develop the model. I’ve said before they could have done a supermoto model, which would basically have run 17” alloys. A TDM version as a budget tourer, with alloys, better pillion seat and fjr panniers. A naked Bulldog would’ve been nice too.
 
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