The S10 WASPmobile mods and evolution, revisited for our mates in the States

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My thoughts tears hopes and prayers have gone out to the Japanese people, not only for their losses in such devastating recent circumstances, but also for the massive cleanup and rebuilding task that lays ahead.
I know it pales by comparison and is because of the situation in Japan that you guys in the States are left waiting for your bikes, but I must say, I find it extraordinary and inspirational of the level of patience, compassion, and resolve that you guys have shown in waiting for your bikes, and I applaud and respect your understanding and support.

That said, and I mean this in no sarcastic way, I enjoy bringing you new info, mods, and tidbits about my bike and I encourage others with these bikes to do so in a bid to ease the wait - Hang in there guys. I think you will find it is worth the wait.

A new rear bag.

I use the S10 WASPmobile around town for a lot of component pickups and parcel delivery's for shipping. This running around is generally done with the Trax top box installed, and side boxes if necessary, as well as the Bags Connection City tank bag to hold the wallet + phone + glasses + DSLR cam (dont go anywhere without it) as well as a few other sundry items.
I only use boxes if an item/s cant be safely strapped to the back but the tank bag is generally always in position.

This has always worked out great for general running around on the road but I find any tank bag a PITA when you want to go dirt. The City bag takes up about the least real-estate that I have seen in any bag for the S10 but I still find myself wanting to get further forward on the tank while in the dirt and inevitably squashing the nads against the bag.
The summer season has gone and the hot dusty weather is starting to disappear, so the riding in Perth forests will start to become perfect as soon as we get some rain. So,,,, I decided it's time to get an alternative bag for carrying the goodies.

I dont like backpacks, and as I said, I always carry the DSLR with me so I thought I would give the "Reverse" tail bag from Bags Connection a try.
I have a feeling that this will work out realy well for my needs but I may end up moving it slightly rearwards for when I encounter the downhills and want to shimmy the bum rearwards.

The Reverse bag is similar in size to the City tank bag and also expands in height by around two inch's.
There are two side pockets for wallet, phone or the likes and enough room inside to hold my water bladder and the (very big) Canon 1Dmk3.

The bag has a textured under surface and is very stable and non slippy when secured in position, although like I said, I will probably move it rearward and change the straps around for a neater appearance.

Looking forward to a test ride as soon as the rains start.

Greg.







 

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Very nice! Looks as though it would easily attach to the rear rack as well.

Just a quick confirmation - the tank bag in the pics is the "city", not the "GS"? Just trying to decide which way to go on these bags for mine.

Thanks for all you show us and your invaluable help wading through S10 options.
 

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Wasp, beware of putting the SLR on the rear when the going gets rough. Impact forces are magnified in the rear beyond the swingarm pivot. Seat cushon would help but SLRs have fragile moving parts.

By the way how are the Heidenau/Mefos holding up? How many KMs are you getting out of them?
 

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Firefight911 said:
Very nice! Looks as though it would easily attach to the rear rack as well.

Just a quick confirmation - the tank bag in the pics is the "city", not the "GS"? Just trying to decide which way to go on these bags for mine.

Thanks for all you show us and your invaluable help wading through S10 options.
With a non slip textured base + 5 lashing loops and straps it will attach just about anywhere.
Correct. The tank bag is the city and not GS. The GS is larger/longer and about the same size as the Yamaha bag. The city is actually ok for standing up in the dirt as long as the camera is not in it (or turned lens to the rear) where I can collapse the bag with my nuts.

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switchback said:
Wasp, beware of putting the SLR on the rear when the going gets rough. Impact forces are magnified in the rear beyond the swingarm pivot. Seat cushon would help but SLRs have fragile moving parts.

By the way how are the Heidenau/Mefos holding up? How many KMs are you getting out of them?
Yeh, I'll see how it goes there. Along with the seat cushion the base of the Reverse bag is also very well cushioned and the camera is retained quite well but I understand what you say.
We'll see just how tough these cameras are then hey?? Worst case it will force the early purchase of the 5Dmk2 and relocate. 8)

The tires are doing great. Yet to try them in muddy tracks but I believe in general these are the ideal dual sport tire. I have done over 4500kms so far and the rear is still about 75% tread remaining in the centre.

Greg.
 

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that little tail bag looks pretty neat. Hey WASP, all of your stuff got here last week. THANKS, Can't Wait!!!
 

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HoebSTer said:
that little tail bag looks pretty neat. Hey WASP, all of your stuff got here last week. THANKS, Can't Wait!!!
Glad to hear that Jeff. I feel genuinely so sorry for you guys that you do have to wait.

Strange world we live in as there may be no tomorrow, so live for today

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i am for sure, while waiting for the Yamaha, I am going to pick up a used KLR650 tomorrow to ride for the season at a low price.
 

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Wasp said:
Strange world we live in as there may be no tomorrow, so live for today

Greg.
Kinda like in my sig file!!

Keep up the great work Greg!!

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Raising/balancing the SWM luggage for the S10

Tee Dee Mmm (from the wrong side of Aus (and another forum)) has asked:

Just after some opinions of any riders with S10's fitted with SW Motech panniers.
Mine has a 37 litre left and a 45 litre right but I know the designers have tried to mount them as low as possible to keep the load low but for off road use where you may need to paddle (Deep Deep sand) I find then too low and catch my boots in the area of my calf muscle which could lead to a serious leg injury.

I am considering making up some alloy plates to bolt to the SW Motech frames to lift the panniers about 50 - 70 mm as I don't normally carry lead or gold bullion in my panniers so raising the CoG should not be much of an issue, I know Wasp has mentioned in the past repositioning his SW M panniers.

Thoughts?

Cheers Rick

As you mention Rick, I have stated quite a while ago that I believed the SWM racks were way too low and I planned to rectify that problem.
Step one in the strategy was to increase ground clearance with the MotorradWorks rear suspension raising links.. One problem solved with the added benefit of sharper on and off-road handling.

The rack system and the boxes in them selves are fine, and are in fact very sturdy, it's just the very low installed height that leaves a lot to be desired. Like you, I am concerned with foot paddling in boggy shit or mud with the propensity to loose a leg under the low hanging corners of the boxes.

You can see the lack of clearance and the amount the boxes can be moved up from the pic below.



I have been meaning to get onto this for quite a while so I guess now is as good a time to start as any.

I actually opted for the 37lt boxes left and right as part of my plan is to move the left hand (exhaust side) pannier inboard (nearly 30mm), and the right hand outboard (nearly 50mm) to compensate so the boxes look and feel balanced on the bike..

Remember that I have the Carbon MotorradWorks muffler installed and there is now more clearance to the pannier/frame on that side.
I will have the L/H frame hug the muffler as close as practical, and by moving the R/H frame across (exactly balancing the boxes in width), end up with enough room to put a Rotopax fuel/water cell or tool storage tubes inboard of the SWM frame on the R/H side.

That explains my (fuzzy) logic behind the choice of 37lt boxes both sides.
This to me is really just an aesthetics thing and the 37lt/45lt combination will work just as well, obviously with added storage. The storage capacity was not the priority consideration as I also use the 45lt top box and Trax expansion bags and found that to be more than enough storage.

I digress.

While balancing the frames and panniers side to side, I will also raise them around 75mm to 80mm. This will bring the tops of the side pannier boxes flush with the pillion seat surface.
I have pre-cut and pressed the ends of 10 lengths of tube suitable for the job, so sometime in the next week or so I will get head down bum up and get into it.



One other MAJOR niggle about the SWM frame system that will be rectified during the course of these mods is to angle the front to rear orientation of the frames to run parallel with each other and the centreline of the bike. For some reason that to me completely defies logic, SWM have made these frames so that the boxes taper outwards at the front end.

There is one other little surprise in store.
I plan to lower the top box by around 75mm at a later date when I complete my top secret S10 rear rack.

Thats all for now. More to come as the project progresses.

Greg.
 

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Extra lighting on the WASPmobile

For those who have previously missed it, I have for a long time now had a set (two) of VisionX 10w LED spot lights on the front of the WASPmobile.
These are magnificent lights with a very high output and extremely low current draw.



Well, I decided if two's good three must be better.





I designed a new three light bracket to be cut and pressed from stainless and, during my last batch of laser cutting windscreen adjusters, I had the guys whip up a new bracket for the mount and had it bent up the same day.

The bracket picks up all four molded lugs on the frame under the headlight and offers vertical adjustment + a few degrees of horizontal aim.

Without having them turned on side by side it's difficult to say how much more light is out put but commonsense dictates it would be in the order of an extra 30%

Anyway, they are bloody great lights that are staggeringly bright and white, and I am quite certain that I dont need any thing more.

These lights are available from Mike at www.motorradgarage.com.au

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Keep em coming Greg! I look forward all of your product developments. You do good work.
 

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O:)Hi Wasp & co,
I also have been reading here and on ADV the development of your S10. My question is also about the SWM panniers. The frames etc all look good to me, quick release is a good idea for normal riding, a few SS bolts and nylock nuts for a permanent fix on bush trips for peace of mind on our lovely red dirt corrugations. With your 'raising' of the frames, is it an option to remove and relocate the mounting frame on the case itself??? Just a thought.
I am keen to fit the Trax bags to my bike but are wondering as to how well the 4 lug mounts handle corrugations etc. Do they get loose, is there any hard rubber in the lugs, mounts area to absorb any movement. Just concerned the alloys will wear and it will turn into a loose, rattly, pain the wazoooo.


Still mourning the recent sale of my first love.....my 1000DS Supersport. I miss the sound. Sure you understand.


Cheers

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Thanks Greg for the added info about the SWM racks. I'm anxious to see how mine work out since I will be mounting the Givi Tekkers on mine.

Also, love the looks of your 3 auxlight system!!! :)
 

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Wasp said:
Correct. The tank bag is the city and not GS. The GS is larger/longer and about the same size as the Yamaha bag. The city is actually ok for standing up in the dirt as long as the camera is not in it (or turned lens to the rear) where I can collapse the bag with my nuts.

Greg.
Greg,
Any update on how the City Bag is working out for you? I'm in "search" mode for the perfect (if there is such a thing) tank bag for the SuperT and so far the City Bag looks to have the most to offer. Also, which base does it use? Looks like there is a "Yamaha 5" and a "Yamaha 7" version. Any other mod kits required to mount it to the SuperT?

Thanks!!!

Rod
 

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Rod,

Twisted throttle has the correct listing (as ar as i know)!!! I can't be for certain since we have no bike to install it on!!! Doh!!!
 
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