S10 Discontinued?

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Unfortunately the Tenere has been mostly pretty difficult to sell that’s the main reason they most likely will be dropping it from the lineup . They very likely will replace it with something but who knows what.
 

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The only negatives about a shaft drive is the weight, and parasitic power loss. Neither of which are likely to be a deal breaker. They would be for an R1m, but not for something that's going to be load like a mule, and driven down a goat path.

If/when they replace the current version of the Tenere, it's gonna have to be something crazy better for me to make the switch. But, that's just me. I also special ordered my Jeep with no bells or whistles; had to wait two months for it.
I hear you. My ST has everything I need and nothing I don't. TFT screens are nice eye candy, but I don't really need it. And more rider aids might be a nice addition but I don't think they're worth a few grand to me.
I'll ride it till it stops putting a smile on my face, I guess.
 

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Same here. Discontinued or not, I'm hanging on to mine. I want to see it roll over to 100,000 miles (only 15,000 to go), and I might just keep on riding it until some critical failure sidelines it permanently. A new bike is great, but there's nothing being offered right now that makes me think "aha, that's the bike to replace the S10".
 

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Yamaha has a bit of history in taking their time in bringing out new stuff, look how long it took for the T7, even after it was announced. The heavyweight adventure segment is to big of a PR thing to not have a bike in it for them. Why else would they even have had the current one in production for so long with low sales. I would bet that in the next year or two, we will see a new one, with bells and whistles, and engine, borrowed from the other bikes, with hopefully a sturdy frame and shaft drive.

I currently have a Tiger 900, and while it is good, it is not good at carrying a lot of weight, and going any long distance. I would suspect the T700 is the same (or worse being more dirt orientated). Really need something in the liter+ for that type of stuff.
 

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Yeah, they can't reduce the power output. But, they don't need to make it a monster either. I'm guessing they'll just continue to refine it. That what they seem to do.
 

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The good news is if you have one already, like it and take care of it, it will probably take you as far as you want to go.

I would love to see a small Yamaha in the 300-400cc range, just for tooling around. The fact they haven't replaced the WR250 leaves a big hole IMHO.

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My wife's TW fits that bill. But, considering the price of them used, I would go new. I saw one the other day, new, $4,600.
 

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My wife's TW fits that bill. But, considering the price of them used, I would go new. I saw one the other day, new, $4,600.
Unfortunately that's not OTD pricing. They still tend to go quick new or used (OTD, not so much on the trail.) Another model that refuses to die...

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Unfortunately that's not OTD pricing. . . . Another model that refuses to die...
You're right, but I have a buddy that's looking for one. He said used in running from $3,800-$4,200. The last time that they changed anything was in '01; electric start, and front disc brake.
 

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Fully aware the topic is perennial scuttlebutt, but over on the big thread at the other place there's a user touting their acquaintance with a bonafide youtube user who states that 2021 marks the end of Super Tenere production. Please don't shoot the messenger.
If you go back into the archives you'll see that we get these "insider knowledge" reports of the model being dropped EVERY SINGLE year, usually twice a year, and the Tenere started deliveries in 2010 (outside of the US). The FJR goes thru the exact same rumor mill bullsh1t every year and started deliveries in 2001. That's 20 years!

Nobody will argue that the Tenere is MASSIVELY overdue for a refresh or change beyond the annual new BNG (bold new graphics) we've been getting since 2014. The engine needs to become Euro compliant for emissions. etc

HOWEVER I know a couple of management people at Yam corporate and they pride themselves on how tight lipped the company is about new models, dropped models, and the next year's product line. The one thing I've learned is that we outsiders will not know till Yamaha intends for people to know.
 

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You're right, but I have a buddy that's looking for one. He said used in running from $3,800-$4,200. The last time that they changed anything was in '01; electric start, and front disc brake.
I keep looking, used that's actually pretty good pricing. Typical mileage is <5k miles. The fact it doesn't change ensures parts availability. DR-Z is similar situation, and probably superior capabilities in this general price range.
The Honda CRF300L has the modern updates, but it sounds like availability is similar to the T7.
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Whatever's coming....will be coming as ADV & Sport Tour models at least.... & quite possibly a Cruiser too

Jus to get responses....
Hybrid 900 triple w enclosed chain & hyd valve lifters....AE model xtra
 

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For what i use the S10, its a near perfect score.
Excels at long distance touring on gravel or tarmac while packing the kitchen and then some, all in comfort and reliability.
I see dudes looking over the fence thinking the grass is greener and in most occasion after owning the good old faithful regretting jumping the fence without admitting. Small changes makes perfection to an already proven platform, while a whole new build only makes headlines to an unknown future.
When the T7 came out i jumped on one, thinking it was god sent from all the Youtube videos. Well the T7 is sold after only one year and i went back to my S10.
It is what it is and that is not a sport bike or cruiser. Nor is it a dirt or trail bike, it's an ADVENTURE tourer ready for anything that comes along.
Everyone has their preference, idea bike, maybe those longing for major changes on the S10 need to revaluate their riding style.
So NO triple, the 270 crank is perfect in making a twin feel more like a big thumper for grunt torque on off tarmac excursions while still happy on the highway at 120kph+ all day long.
Shaft drives is one of the things that make's the Super T what it is, chain drive just makes it another also ran...cheap.

All in all i'm for refinements, there is always room for that. As for sales, Yamaha has never pushed sales, in general they don't need too, the brand speaks for it self and selling or not selling the Super T won't effect Yamaha as they sell more motorcycles then most ALL other brands other then Honda. So who cares. While certain other brands that is not the case.
 

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For what i use the S10, its a near perfect score.
Excels at long distance touring on gravel or tarmac while packing the kitchen and then some, all in comfort and reliability.
I see dudes looking over the fence thinking the grass is greener and in most occasion after owning the good old faithful regretting jumping the fence without admitting. Small changes makes perfection to an already proven platform, while a whole new build only makes headlines to an unknown future.
When the T7 came out i jumped on one, thinking it was god sent from all the Youtube videos. Well the T7 is sold after only one year and i went back to my S10.
It is what it is and that is not a sport bike or cruiser. Nor is it a dirt or trail bike, it's an ADVENTURE tourer ready for anything that comes along.
Everyone has their preference, idea bike, maybe those longing for major changes on the S10 need to revaluate their riding style.
So NO triple, the 270 crank is perfect in making a twin feel more like a big thumper for grunt torque on off tarmac excursions while still happy on the highway at 120kph+ all day long.
Shaft drives is one of the things that make's the Super T what it is, chain drive just makes it another also ran...cheap.

All in all i'm for refinements, there is always room for that. As for sales, Yamaha has never pushed sales, in general they don't need too, the brand speaks for it self and selling or not selling the Super T won't effect Yamaha as they sell more motorcycles then most ALL other brands other then Honda. So who cares. While certain other brands that is not the case.
Well said!
 

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For what i use the S10, its a near perfect score.
Excels at long distance touring on gravel or tarmac while packing the kitchen and then some, all in comfort and reliability.
I see dudes looking over the fence thinking the grass is greener and in most occasion after owning the good old faithful regretting jumping the fence without admitting. Small changes makes perfection to an already proven platform, while a whole new build only makes headlines to an unknown future.
When the T7 came out i jumped on one, thinking it was god sent from all the Youtube videos. Well the T7 is sold after only one year and i went back to my S10.
It is what it is and that is not a sport bike or cruiser. Nor is it a dirt or trail bike, it's an ADVENTURE tourer ready for anything that comes along.
Everyone has their preference, idea bike, maybe those longing for major changes on the S10 need to revaluate their riding style.
So NO triple, the 270 crank is perfect in making a twin feel more like a big thumper for grunt torque on off tarmac excursions while still happy on the highway at 120kph+ all day long.
Shaft drives is one of the things that make's the Super T what it is, chain drive just makes it another also ran...cheap.

All in all i'm for refinements, there is always room for that. As for sales, Yamaha has never pushed sales, in general they don't need too, the brand speaks for it self and selling or not selling the Super T won't effect Yamaha as they sell more motorcycles then most ALL other brands other then Honda. So who cares. While certain other brands that is not the case.
For what i use the S10, its a near perfect score.
Excels at long distance touring on gravel or tarmac while packing the kitchen and then some, all in comfort and reliability.
I see dudes looking over the fence thinking the grass is greener and in most occasion after owning the good old faithful regretting jumping the fence without admitting. Small changes makes perfection to an already proven platform, while a whole new build only makes headlines to an unknown future.
When the T7 came out i jumped on one, thinking it was god sent from all the Youtube videos. Well the T7 is sold after only one year and i went back to my S10.
It is what it is and that is not a sport bike or cruiser. Nor is it a dirt or trail bike, it's an ADVENTURE tourer ready for anything that comes along.
Everyone has their preference, idea bike, maybe those longing for major changes on the S10 need to revaluate their riding style.
So NO triple, the 270 crank is perfect in making a twin feel more like a big thumper for grunt torque on off tarmac excursions while still happy on the highway at 120kph+ all day long.
Shaft drives is one of the things that make's the Super T what it is, chain drive just makes it another also ran...cheap.

All in all i'm for refinements, there is always room for that. As for sales, Yamaha has never pushed sales, in general they don't need too, the brand speaks for it self and selling or not selling the Super T won't effect Yamaha as they sell more motorcycles then most ALL other brands other then Honda. So who cares. While certain other brands that is not the case.
hear hear!
 

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If they make a big change, I could see her becoming the Tracer 1000 GT. Because, honestly, she is much more of a Grand Tour, than a desert dirt bike. But, they don't really do big changes on their established models . . . . just continuing refinement. Which is how you build reliability.
 

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If you go back into the archives you'll see that we get these "insider knowledge" reports of the model being dropped EVERY SINGLE year, usually twice a year, and the Tenere started deliveries in 2010 (outside of the US). The FJR goes thru the exact same rumor mill bullsh1t every year and started deliveries in 2001. That's 20 years!

Nobody will argue that the Tenere is MASSIVELY overdue for a refresh or change beyond the annual new BNG (bold new graphics) we've been getting since 2014. The engine needs to become Euro compliant for emissions. etc

HOWEVER I know a couple of management people at Yam corporate and they pride themselves on how tight lipped the company is about new models, dropped models, and the next year's product line. The one thing I've learned is that we outsiders will not know till Yamaha intends for people to know.
Yeah, I'm aware of the chicken littles, but thanks for that.

As for a refresh and Euro compliance I believe you're right on both. Your comment about your acquaintances bears itself out often as John Q never has an idea what's coming up the pike or exiting it.
 

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In my opinion Yamaha could have a new adventure bike very easily by modifying the Tracer 900.
Fit longer travel suspension and a revised front fairing for a slightly different look than the existing tracer900 and you have a direct competition to the large adv bikes.

Plus it would be over 100lbs lighter than the existing S10 with better HP and slightly less torque numbers.
Lets be honest the S10 is used as a Sport touring bike by most. Longer travel suspension on the Tracer will make it more than capable for the gravel travel some need.
It allows Yamaha to have an engine/frame shared over multiple bikes which would be a huge impact on the bottom line.

My money is we will get two Tracer models. The Tracer 900GT and a new Tracer 900 Adventure.
But you never know, Yamaha may keep the S10 for the North american market for another 10 years. They will let us know eventually.
 

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In my opinion Yamaha could have a new adventure bike very easily by modifying the Tracer 900.
Fit longer travel suspension and a revised front fairing for a slightly different look than the existing tracer900 and you have a direct competition to the large adv bikes.

Plus it would be over 100lbs lighter than the existing S10 with better HP and slightly less torque numbers.
Lets be honest the S10 is used as a Sport touring bike by most. Longer travel suspension on the Tracer will make it more than capable for the gravel travel some need.
It allows Yamaha to have an engine/frame shared over multiple bikes which would be a huge impact on the bottom line.

My money is we will get two Tracer models. The Tracer 900GT and a new Tracer 900 Adventure.
But you never know, Yamaha may keep the S10 for the North american market for another 10 years. They will let us know eventually.
I could see Yamaha coming out with a 900 cc, or 850 cc adventure bike to compete with the other bike manufacturers, but they still need to have a "heavyweight" bike. Bigger frame that can carry two people and all the luggage for long trip, and none of the current bikes under a liter can really do that.
 
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