Cycledude
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Unfortunately the Tenere has been mostly pretty difficult to sell that’s the main reason they most likely will be dropping it from the lineup . They very likely will replace it with something but who knows what.
Yeah, I took it wrong. I took it to mean all of the suggestions as to what it needs to be proven right.Doubtful, since at some point the Super Tenere line will end, which is what I said. . . .
I hear you. My ST has everything I need and nothing I don't. TFT screens are nice eye candy, but I don't really need it. And more rider aids might be a nice addition but I don't think they're worth a few grand to me.The only negatives about a shaft drive is the weight, and parasitic power loss. Neither of which are likely to be a deal breaker. They would be for an R1m, but not for something that's going to be load like a mule, and driven down a goat path.
If/when they replace the current version of the Tenere, it's gonna have to be something crazy better for me to make the switch. But, that's just me. I also special ordered my Jeep with no bells or whistles; had to wait two months for it.
Unfortunately that's not OTD pricing. They still tend to go quick new or used (OTD, not so much on the trail.) Another model that refuses to die...My wife's TW fits that bill. But, considering the price of them used, I would go new. I saw one the other day, new, $4,600.
You're right, but I have a buddy that's looking for one. He said used in running from $3,800-$4,200. The last time that they changed anything was in '01; electric start, and front disc brake.Unfortunately that's not OTD pricing. . . . Another model that refuses to die...
If you go back into the archives you'll see that we get these "insider knowledge" reports of the model being dropped EVERY SINGLE year, usually twice a year, and the Tenere started deliveries in 2010 (outside of the US). The FJR goes thru the exact same rumor mill bullsh1t every year and started deliveries in 2001. That's 20 years!Fully aware the topic is perennial scuttlebutt, but over on the big thread at the other place there's a user touting their acquaintance with a bonafide youtube user who states that 2021 marks the end of Super Tenere production. Please don't shoot the messenger.
I keep looking, used that's actually pretty good pricing. Typical mileage is <5k miles. The fact it doesn't change ensures parts availability. DR-Z is similar situation, and probably superior capabilities in this general price range.You're right, but I have a buddy that's looking for one. He said used in running from $3,800-$4,200. The last time that they changed anything was in '01; electric start, and front disc brake.
Well said!For what i use the S10, its a near perfect score.
Excels at long distance touring on gravel or tarmac while packing the kitchen and then some, all in comfort and reliability.
I see dudes looking over the fence thinking the grass is greener and in most occasion after owning the good old faithful regretting jumping the fence without admitting. Small changes makes perfection to an already proven platform, while a whole new build only makes headlines to an unknown future.
When the T7 came out i jumped on one, thinking it was god sent from all the Youtube videos. Well the T7 is sold after only one year and i went back to my S10.
It is what it is and that is not a sport bike or cruiser. Nor is it a dirt or trail bike, it's an ADVENTURE tourer ready for anything that comes along.
Everyone has their preference, idea bike, maybe those longing for major changes on the S10 need to revaluate their riding style.
So NO triple, the 270 crank is perfect in making a twin feel more like a big thumper for grunt torque on off tarmac excursions while still happy on the highway at 120kph+ all day long.
Shaft drives is one of the things that make's the Super T what it is, chain drive just makes it another also ran...cheap.
All in all i'm for refinements, there is always room for that. As for sales, Yamaha has never pushed sales, in general they don't need too, the brand speaks for it self and selling or not selling the Super T won't effect Yamaha as they sell more motorcycles then most ALL other brands other then Honda. So who cares. While certain other brands that is not the case.
For what i use the S10, its a near perfect score.
Excels at long distance touring on gravel or tarmac while packing the kitchen and then some, all in comfort and reliability.
I see dudes looking over the fence thinking the grass is greener and in most occasion after owning the good old faithful regretting jumping the fence without admitting. Small changes makes perfection to an already proven platform, while a whole new build only makes headlines to an unknown future.
When the T7 came out i jumped on one, thinking it was god sent from all the Youtube videos. Well the T7 is sold after only one year and i went back to my S10.
It is what it is and that is not a sport bike or cruiser. Nor is it a dirt or trail bike, it's an ADVENTURE tourer ready for anything that comes along.
Everyone has their preference, idea bike, maybe those longing for major changes on the S10 need to revaluate their riding style.
So NO triple, the 270 crank is perfect in making a twin feel more like a big thumper for grunt torque on off tarmac excursions while still happy on the highway at 120kph+ all day long.
Shaft drives is one of the things that make's the Super T what it is, chain drive just makes it another also ran...cheap.
All in all i'm for refinements, there is always room for that. As for sales, Yamaha has never pushed sales, in general they don't need too, the brand speaks for it self and selling or not selling the Super T won't effect Yamaha as they sell more motorcycles then most ALL other brands other then Honda. So who cares. While certain other brands that is not the case.
hear hear!For what i use the S10, its a near perfect score.
Excels at long distance touring on gravel or tarmac while packing the kitchen and then some, all in comfort and reliability.
I see dudes looking over the fence thinking the grass is greener and in most occasion after owning the good old faithful regretting jumping the fence without admitting. Small changes makes perfection to an already proven platform, while a whole new build only makes headlines to an unknown future.
When the T7 came out i jumped on one, thinking it was god sent from all the Youtube videos. Well the T7 is sold after only one year and i went back to my S10.
It is what it is and that is not a sport bike or cruiser. Nor is it a dirt or trail bike, it's an ADVENTURE tourer ready for anything that comes along.
Everyone has their preference, idea bike, maybe those longing for major changes on the S10 need to revaluate their riding style.
So NO triple, the 270 crank is perfect in making a twin feel more like a big thumper for grunt torque on off tarmac excursions while still happy on the highway at 120kph+ all day long.
Shaft drives is one of the things that make's the Super T what it is, chain drive just makes it another also ran...cheap.
All in all i'm for refinements, there is always room for that. As for sales, Yamaha has never pushed sales, in general they don't need too, the brand speaks for it self and selling or not selling the Super T won't effect Yamaha as they sell more motorcycles then most ALL other brands other then Honda. So who cares. While certain other brands that is not the case.
Yeah, I'm aware of the chicken littles, but thanks for that.If you go back into the archives you'll see that we get these "insider knowledge" reports of the model being dropped EVERY SINGLE year, usually twice a year, and the Tenere started deliveries in 2010 (outside of the US). The FJR goes thru the exact same rumor mill bullsh1t every year and started deliveries in 2001. That's 20 years!
Nobody will argue that the Tenere is MASSIVELY overdue for a refresh or change beyond the annual new BNG (bold new graphics) we've been getting since 2014. The engine needs to become Euro compliant for emissions. etc
HOWEVER I know a couple of management people at Yam corporate and they pride themselves on how tight lipped the company is about new models, dropped models, and the next year's product line. The one thing I've learned is that we outsiders will not know till Yamaha intends for people to know.
I could see Yamaha coming out with a 900 cc, or 850 cc adventure bike to compete with the other bike manufacturers, but they still need to have a "heavyweight" bike. Bigger frame that can carry two people and all the luggage for long trip, and none of the current bikes under a liter can really do that.In my opinion Yamaha could have a new adventure bike very easily by modifying the Tracer 900.
Fit longer travel suspension and a revised front fairing for a slightly different look than the existing tracer900 and you have a direct competition to the large adv bikes.
Plus it would be over 100lbs lighter than the existing S10 with better HP and slightly less torque numbers.
Lets be honest the S10 is used as a Sport touring bike by most. Longer travel suspension on the Tracer will make it more than capable for the gravel travel some need.
It allows Yamaha to have an engine/frame shared over multiple bikes which would be a huge impact on the bottom line.
My money is we will get two Tracer models. The Tracer 900GT and a new Tracer 900 Adventure.
But you never know, Yamaha may keep the S10 for the North american market for another 10 years. They will let us know eventually.