Power restriction in first 3 gears now lifted

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Bundu said:
it's probably just to remove the French market power limitation...
What power are they limited to in France as the fixed light = 100hp and flashing light = fp -- full power?? ::017::
 

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Est-ce quelqu'un peut essayer? c'est sans risque ,et nous sauront si c'est ok ou non ! les ST France 106 ch .Ce n'est pas limitation puissance ,mais limitation pollution.
 

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frenchy said:
Est-ce quelqu'un peut essayer? c'est sans risque ,et nous sauront si c'est ok ou non ! les ST France 106 ch .Ce n'est pas limitation puissance ,mais limitation pollution.
Dodgy Google Tranlsation...

"Does anyone can try? it is safe, and we will know if it's ok or not! France's ST 106 hp. This limitation is not power, but limiting pollution."

What this chap seems to be saying is that it is not to remove France-specific restrictions on power, but emission-related restrictions? I still can't get my head around the instructions, where the plug and the jumper cable pictured with it come into things etc. If anyone else has clearer (to me) instructions that would be good.

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Matt
 

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Monty said:
Dodgy Google Tranlsation...

"Does anyone can try? it is safe, and we will know if it's ok or not! France's ST 106 hp. This limitation is not power, but limiting pollution."

What this chap seems to be saying is that it is not to remove France-specific restrictions on power, but emission-related restrictions? I still can't get my head around the instructions, where the plug and the jumper cable pictured with it come into things etc. If anyone else has clearer (to me) instructions that would be good.

Regards,

Matt
It looks like the method used for Californian spec bikes to get access to the Diagnostics mode...

The Californian spec bikes need to ground a connector too in order to get access to the Diagnostics mode. There is a topic on that.
Here it is: http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=1974.0

They cannot directly get into diagnostics mode to alter/set the CO settings like our bikes can.

My best guess is that access to the Diagnostics mode is restricted on the French bikes as well, probably due too their power limitation to 106 HP...

Anyway, it is not relevant to me, my bike already has 107 HP at the rear wheel... ::001:: ::26:: ::001:: ::26:: ::012:: ::012:: ::012:: ::025:: ::025:: ::025::
 

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Bundu said:
I'm not sure that is a fact..........
Stock bike. Run done with TCS Off (the only way they could do it)

3rd gear


4th gear


5th gear


6th gear


Vermogen = HP
Koppel = Torque

The dip in 3rd gear around 4k rpm was caused by the tire slipping.
 

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Haven't read this thread for a while, I read from the start up to page 100 and something. that was enough to convince me that the re-map was a worthwhile exercise.
I finally bit the bullet and sent the ECU to ECU Unleashed here in Aus. got it back today, and all I can say is 'WOW"!!!!!!
immediately noticed much smoother roll on roll off of the throttle, so much easier to feather the throttle through a corner now!
the available power now is awesome and guaranteed to plaster a "cheshire cat" grin on your face!
I dont have "dyno" data to back up these impressions and I wont be rushing out to spend money on it either, the bike is much more rideable, has better feel under acceleration, and much more power on tap through the lower gears.

The service from ECU Unleashed was fantastic, and if youre in Aus. and thinking of getting this done, I highly reccomend them, no worries about customs or language barriers ( just australia post!) turnaround was only 1 week ( posted on a wednesday and recieved back all done, the following tuesday)

to summarise, the bike has had the following:
K&N air filter
Arrow headers
Cat back carbon muffler from WaspWorks
Power commander V and auto tune and
ECU reflash
this is now the bike that I wanted when I bought it new, in a word, Sensational!!!
 

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cotswah65 said:
Haven't read this thread for a while, I read from the start up to page 100 and something. that was enough to convince me that the re-map was a worthwhile exercise.
I finally bit the bullet and sent the ECU to ECU Unleashed here in Aus. got it back today, and all I can say is 'WOW"!!!!!!
immediately noticed much smoother roll on roll off of the throttle, so much easier to feather the throttle through a corner now!
the available power now is awesome and guaranteed to plaster a "cheshire cat" grin on your face!
I dont have "dyno" data to back up these impressions and I wont be rushing out to spend money on it either, the bike is much more rideable, has better feel under acceleration, and much more power on tap through the lower gears.

The service from ECU Unleashed was fantastic, and if youre in Aus. and thinking of getting this done, I highly reccomend them, no worries about customs or language barriers ( just australia post!) turnaround was only 1 week ( posted on a wednesday and recieved back all done, the following tuesday)

to summarise, the bike has had the following:
K&N air filter
Arrow headers
Cat back carbon muffler from WaspWorks
Power commander V and auto tune and
ECU reflash
this is now the bike that I wanted when I bought it new, in a word, Sensational!!!
::008:: ::008:: I'm dying to hear how your setup would work with the stock muffler, so bolt it back on and report back to me ::025:: ::015::

Glad you're enjoying the setup. I have the Arrow headers sitting in the garage right now awaiting a power commander and auto tune. Very intriguing to hear in other posts how just adding a slip-on doesn't radically change the AFR, however installing the catless header results in a poorly running engine without a power commander to richen the mixture. I have the Diapason flashed ECU and am impressed with the performance improvement with a totally stock exhaust. Once I get the PC and AT, I'll install the Arrow headers with stock muffler and see if that fills the bill.
 

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cotswah65 said:
Haven't read this thread for a while, I read from the start up to page 100 and something. that was enough to convince me that the re-map was a worthwhile exercise.
I finally bit the bullet and sent the ECU to ECU Unleashed here in Aus. got it back today, and all I can say is 'WOW"!!!!!!
immediately noticed much smoother roll on roll off of the throttle, so much easier to feather the throttle through a corner now!
the available power now is awesome and guaranteed to plaster a "cheshire cat" grin on your face!
I dont have "dyno" data to back up these impressions and I wont be rushing out to spend money on it either, the bike is much more rideable, has better feel under acceleration, and much more power on tap through the lower gears.

The service from ECU Unleashed was fantastic, and if youre in Aus. and thinking of getting this done, I highly reccomend them, no worries about customs or language barriers ( just australia post!) turnaround was only 1 week ( posted on a wednesday and recieved back all done, the following tuesday)

to summarise, the bike has had the following:
K&N air filter
Arrow headers
Cat back carbon muffler from WaspWorks
Power commander V and auto tune and
ECU reflash
this is now the bike that I wanted when I bought it new, in a word, Sensational!!!
Hi Mr Cotswah65, all sounds good to me as I was waiting to see if anyone had been through ECU Unleashed here in Aust so I will have another think about it. Also have to catch up sometime out on the trails as we are not to far apart distance wise.

Cheers Rick
 

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cotswah65 said:
Haven't read this thread for a while, I read from the start up to page 100 and something. that was enough to convince me that the re-map was a worthwhile exercise.
I finally bit the bullet and sent the ECU to ECU Unleashed here in Aus. got it back today, and all I can say is 'WOW"!!!!!!
immediately noticed much smoother roll on roll off of the throttle, so much easier to feather the throttle through a corner now!
the available power now is awesome and guaranteed to plaster a "cheshire cat" grin on your face!
I dont have "dyno" data to back up these impressions and I wont be rushing out to spend money on it either, the bike is much more rideable, has better feel under acceleration, and much more power on tap through the lower gears.

The service from ECU Unleashed was fantastic, and if youre in Aus. and thinking of getting this done, I highly reccomend them, no worries about customs or language barriers ( just australia post!) turnaround was only 1 week ( posted on a wednesday and recieved back all done, the following tuesday)

to summarise, the bike has had the following:
K&N air filter
Arrow headers
Cat back carbon muffler from WaspWorks
Power commander V and auto tune and
ECU reflash
this is now the bike that I wanted when I bought it new, in a word, Sensational!!!
Now all ya need is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warp_drive_(Star_Trek) :))
 

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I have read all 120 pages and found all the info and responses very interresting.
I am not considering to flash my ECU but willing to try the clutch bridge but are not convinced from what I read
the last few pages that it really works like the flash. Is there also a change with the bridge when you ref the motor
that it gives such a quick response like the flash ECU's? Just wondering.
 

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janwp said:
I am not considering to flash my ECU but willing to try the clutch bridge but are not convinced from what I read
the last few pages that it really works like the flash. Is there also a change with the bridge when you ref the motor
that it gives such a quick response like the flash ECU's? Just wondering.
This has been well covered in another (long) topic.

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=4486.msg88884#msg88884

Basically it does remove the low down restrictions in 1st - 3rd and gives a cleaner power curve with a useful mid-range improvement.

You can see on my dyno curve the line looks very linear with the mod, so it is unlikely a flash gives a huge improvement specifically in this region with regard to the shape of the curve, but it may well give extra power all the way across the rev range compared to the clutch mod as the fuelling is quite rich in stock trim so addressing this would give a bit more power, and a flash may also optimize ignition as well.

The flash is still on my wish-list, but is no longer essential as the cheap mod does remove the horrible lag and is not likely to do any harm.

I am also holding out for a custom flash, so I can change pipes and then get the bike custom mapped without needing to add a PC3, but a flash + pipes = loads of cash.
 

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Rasher said:
This has been well covered in another (long) topic.

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=4486.msg88884#msg88884

Basically it does remove the low down restrictions in 1st - 3rd and gives a cleaner power curve with a useful mid-range improvement.

You can see on my dyno curve the line looks very linear with the mod, so it is unlikely a flash gives a huge improvement specifically in this region with regard to the shape of the curve, but it may well give extra power all the way across the rev range compared to the clutch mod as the fuelling is quite rich in stock trim so addressing this would give a bit more power, and a flash may also optimize ignition as well.

The flash is still on my wish-list, but is no longer essential as the cheap mod does remove the horrible lag and is not likely to do any harm.

I am also holding out for a custom flash, so I can change pipes and then get the bike custom mapped without needing to add a PC3, but a flash + pipes = loads of cash.
Rasher think you misunderstanding me. I am totally convinced of the improvement that you get with the flash and there plenty of proof in all the pages.
What I am saying is that the clutch bridge does not convince me yet. What I am asking is if you also get such response from just reffing the motor with the bridge applied
as with the flash applied? I remember there was a video with startup after flash ECU installed an you could see the rev counter responding like hell.
 
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Rasher think you misunderstanding me. I am totally convinced of the improvement that you get with the flash and there plenty of proof in all the pages.
What I am saying is that the clutch bridge does not convince me yet. What I am asking is if you also get such response from just reffing the motor with the bridge applied
as with the flash applied? I remember there was a video with startup after flash ECU installed an you could see the rev counter responding like hell.
Jan, welkom hier!

I think I understand your question - is the response from idle to higher revs in neutral improved?

I really don't know and don't care, as that's irrelevant to me - I'm also not sure how one would reliably test that.... and if the ECU flashed response is better in neutral....

I would suggest, short the clutch switch and try it for yourself (the rev part) - the more relevant part is that it does feel as if the limitations in the 1st 3 gears are removed by the clutch short
 

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Bundu said:
I would suggest, short the clutch switch and try it for yourself (the rev part) - the more relevant part is that it does feel as if the limitations in the 1st 3 gears are removed by the clutch short
::026::

Only takes 5 minutes
 

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OK, I've had the Clutch Switch Mod for a while now but wanted to be able to go back to S Mode and T Mode for trail conditions as the Super Sport Mode( as I call it) is too snatchy on the trail riding. So I purchased the Beaver Power head lite On/Off switch. 2 wire connection. Not sure exactly how to connect, so thought I'd ask the Collective. I'm thinking a simple T connect to the(black) power wire on the bike to the black on the switch and same with the other wire, simply a T connect. That way I can simple switch between the 3 Modes on the fly. :-[
 
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