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So I'm getting geared up to head up to Tuktoyaktuk in July. A 5 week journey on the SuperT.
I'm actually the team leader for a BRP project featuring their newest 3 wheeled bike, the Ryker, a more aggressive, sport, on/off road cousin of the Spyder.
We're are going to torture this 3wheeled beast through over the unforgiving Dempster all the way to Tuktoyaktuk and back. 1850kms return on dirt road.
The entire trip is nearly 8,000kms with 1800kms of dirt, my question is i need to set up the S10 on new rubber. I'm looking for advice from people that have experienced different tires and maybe even traveled the Dempster for tire recommendation..
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I’ve run k60 front and rear, EO7’s and tractionators are on it now. I been through some serious mud with the tractionators. They all last me a lot of miles. I’ve had plugs in almost every one ofem running gravel roads. No problems.
 

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Ive seen a set of K60's do 20K miles on the rear and 28,500 on the front. I mounted / I took them off.
 

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It only took 3 replies to this thread before the low traction Chevron treaded tires were mentioned. No matter how many times someone has been up that highway the weather is the only indicator you should take into account.

If you encounter mud/sand an open block knobby is the only safe tire you should consider. I recommend having a few sent ahead of time in route so you can change them out during your travels.

Mud and sand is an equalizer. Regardless of riding skill you are going to struggle big time with anything less than a full blown knobby in either of those conditions.
 

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It only took 3 replies to this thread before the low traction Chevron treaded tires were mentioned...
3 replies? Try first reply, guess you've never seen a K60 then. And the Tractionator GPS isn't a open block knobby either. You're the first to suggest one and doubt you would find many if any to use one on ride up there on a big bike.

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3 replies? Try first reply, guess you've never seen a K60 then. And the Tractionator GPS isn't a open block knobby either. You're the first to suggest one and doubt you would find many if any to use one on ride up there on a big bike.

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OOPS!! LOL My quick edit removed the ever popular E07. I will be quick to add that Chevron tires get mega mileage. I am of the opinion that mileage of a tire is of zero consideration. For me it's all about traction. I budget the cost of tires into the ownership of my bikes. And after doing a few tire changes on the Super Tenere I have found them to be very easy.
 
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For me personally I have been up the Dempster on E07 Dakar’s. you see all the adventure tires covered up there probably 90 % on heideneau and mitas.
the road bed in the Yukon is made up of lots of shale becomes the famous goo when it rains. In the NWT side there is lots of round gravel. If it rains the road becomes impassable in certain sections on whatever tires you are using. Our average speed on the road was around 60 kph. Weather and fuel are my bigger concerns up there rather than max traction
 

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You're the first to suggest one and doubt you would find many if any to use one on ride up there on a big bike.
For the high mileage paved portion up from home I would run street tread. As soon as I knew it was going to get off the highway in the Yukon I would swap out to the knobs. When it comes to tires, brakes, suspension and chassis, I error on the side of fun. Taking an unnecessary compromise on components that can result in wadding up or laying a 650lb bike down in deep sand or mud is not fun.
 

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Michelin Anakee Wild is what I would recommend for the Yukon or any condition that resembles it.

the road bed in the Yukon is made up of lots of shale becomes the famous goo when it rains. In the NWT side there is lots of round gravel. If it rains the road becomes impassable in certain sections on whatever tires you are using. Our average speed on the road was around 60 kph. Weather and fuel are my bigger concerns up there rather than max traction
Weather and fuel for sure. At one time that ride was on my bucket list. After speaking with a few of my riding buddies it does not appeal to me.
 

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Ok, sounds like i will be leaning towards Mitas E07 Dakars or the Tractionator GPS for the rear.
From what i'm seeing here it is ok to mix front and rear?
Scouts K60 with Mitas or Tractionators?
Or should i try to stick with the same brand name, i have had issues with the Scouts K60 cupping on my GS in the past but the rear was about 60% worn.
 

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Ok, sounds like i will be leaning towards Mitas E07 Dakars or the Tractionator GPS for the rear.
From what i'm seeing here it is ok to mix front and rear?
As long as you are aware of the limitations of that tread then it's all good. Mixing tires is not the best idea but riders do it anyway. I always stick to the same brand and type front and rear. It's all about what you are willing to risk. I pick traction and shortest braking distance available over everything else when it comes to choosing a tire. If you are looking for long lasting tread then you give up both of those features.

I figure you already aware of that having run the K60's in the past. Good luck with your ride and safe travels.
 

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I was hoping to go tubeless, my current tires are tubeless. Plus patching a tube tire is a PITA.
With the Mitas E07 Dakars can i run tubeless and carry a backup tube if needed.
Is there a sealing issue with the bead on the Mitas that you need to run tubes?
 

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The new road from Inuvik to Tuktoyaktuk was closed last summer due to Covid, and that issue isn’t gone yet. Just saying.
As for tires, in a perfect world you would have sticky smooth tires for the fast curves, rain tires for wet riding, cruiser tires for a comfortable ride across the prairies, big blocks for mud and gravel, and paddles for going up those sandy hills, but the logistics of all those tire changes and the chase vehicle to carry all those tires would for me take the fun out of a long trip. The E07s are a great compromise tire to get through most conditions, perfect for none, but the ability to ride to all three of Canada‘s oceans within 30 days with only a daily check is just wonderful.
 

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The new road from Inuvik to Tuktoyaktuk was closed last summer due to Covid, and that issue isn’t gone yet. Just saying.
As for tires, in a perfect world you would have sticky smooth tires for the fast curves, rain tires for wet riding, cruiser tires for a comfortable ride across the prairies, big blocks for mud and gravel, and paddles for going up those sandy hills, but the logistics of all those tire changes and the chase vehicle to carry all those tires would for me take the fun out of a long trip. The E07s are a great compromise tire to get through most conditions, perfect for none, but the ability to ride to all three of Canada‘s oceans within 30 days with only a daily check is just wonderful.
We have been in contact with the northern governments Yukon and N/T and we got the green light by the Yukon.
We're waiting on the N/T for further updates. We did get an email from them last week and they are looking at updates on the 24th.
As it stands today no entry into the Territories with out 2 week isolation.
 

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I had a mitas e07 front that I had a hard time getting to seal. I did eventually get it. I have heard of guys using a tire sealer on the bead.

My new current Mitas sealed up great. I’ve had excellent results with the E07.
 
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