I know it wasn't directed at me but I'd say they were quality kit. They are PIAA units and they don't make sub standard stuff. They perform exactly as I'd hoped. I will be adding more light though .... just because I can.rocca said:
Hey Rocca!rocca said:
Had the same reaction from the cagers myself suggesting they are bright. The big problem I have with standard lighting is the beam pattern which changes dramatically in turns. Talking to a guy at a Yamaha parts dealership, he told me that lights these days are developed to have wider lateral spread at the cost of range. This does 2 things, 1. you get better early warning of stuff at the side of the road, e.g. deer, 2. less range means you are forced to reduce your speed considerably when it is dark. For me I want a solution that gives me better range. When I have driven the S10 at night I have had cagers up my rear end causing risk and frustration, therefore I need more range.rocca said:
most bikes are 12V these days, so voltage level is 12V.MoBill said:
Some grips have multiple elements and can be wired different ways - for example, putting the two elements in parallel (hottest), each individual element, or serial (coolest). Is it possible that your direct wiring scheme wired them differently? I wouldn't think the voltage at the heated grip accessory connector would be significant less than battery voltage, although some loss in the wiring and connector would be expected.MoBill said:
Rod, I see you bought the Symtec.. I went to there web site and they look cool. What style did you buy? Also, will they work with the aluminum bars, Ive read somewhere they dont that well, only on steel? I have the factory heated grips on my FJR and they are GREAT !! But the grips themselves suck... I have already bought new grips for the new bike, but want heated grips.... Will ya fill us in on what ya got..... ThanksColoRider said:
Not the first time Ive done major surgery! 
I have used the Symtec heaters on most of my bikes (but do not have them on the FJR). Never has an issue on any bike, but then never had aluminum bars before (at least that I know of). The kit options for MC are only two that I know of: Toggle switch or Rocker switch. I normally always go for the rocker switch as it looks better than a toggle, IMHO. I also always use the BMW style grips as I prefer the ribs and the slight taper.~TABASCO~ said:Rod, I see you bought the Symtec.. I went to there web site and they look cool. What style did you buy? Also, will they work with the aluminum bars, Ive read somewhere they dont that well, only on steel? I have the factory heated grips on my FJR and they are GREAT !! But the grips themselves suck... I have already bought new grips for the new bike, but want heated grips.... Will ya fill us in on what ya got..... Thanks
*bit off topic* By the way, If you have any trouble with wiring up your grips when you get the bike let me know, im good at this stuff.... When I bought my FJR I had a "great idea" to wire in four HID lights (two in the factory position, and two Baja Fuego HID lights) but using the high / low factory switch, so the 'low' would not turn off when I had my 'high' on and I could use the 'high' to turn on all four HID lights...... Yamaha has engineered this NEVER to happen.....(Duuuuu !) I made it happen......
Step one: Cut the whole wire harness from the front of the bike (brand new bike at the time)
Step two: Re wire the whole thing to do what you want........ Made it happen!
Me too!!!! (along with a whole stash of other farkles)tubebender said:
Outside. Brush-guard anchors and / or bar end weights use up the ID.~TABASCO~ said:
???? You lost me here. I've never seen Symtec heaters that go on the inside of the bars.~TABASCO~ said:
Interesting - learn something new every day!!tubebender said:
The internal looks like a real clean install but I didnt think that would work with the internal bar plug... How do you keep the 'heat' pad stuck to the bar while your installing your grips ?ColoRider said:
The heating element has double-sided tape installed. Simply remove the backing and install on the bars. I always use hair spray to install grip (never glue). Just a quick shot inside the grip and it slides right on - tightens up in just a short time.~TABASCO~ said:
