Bike Diet... ?

[Twisties]

I have been looking at my gear to try to get my sprung weight down. On our dry run ride to CA/OR the last few weeks I felt like the bike is a bit heavy. There is me, say 230 lbs in gear. The Jesse's and mounts, Givi crash bars and SW-Motech skid plate.... maybe 70 lbs I am guessing. Then I figure I have about 100 lbs of gear with camping load, tool kit, first aid kit, cpap and accessories, camera gear, rain gear, clothes, incidentals etc. I've managed to get that down about 10 lbs for $250. But there are limited remaining opportunities to reduce those weights, and I still have to add extra fuel... a whopping 20 lbs! The load is still well within spec, but the rear feels bouncy to me in sporty riding, and I am getting some instability in turns. So it dawns on me I need to look at the bike.

The Tenere's 11 AH oem battery specs at only 8.1 lbs. Still, $148 for 6 lbs net savings is pretty good bang for buck on a iron lithium phosphate battery....

http://www.batterystuff.com/powersports-batteries/LFX14A1-BS12.html

Any thoughts on those?

What about other places to trim down this beast? Especially near the rear wheel? What does the OEM muffler weigh and how much weight can you save to replace it?

Any other places to knock off ten or twenty lbs at a go for reasonable $$$ and effort?

 

[~TABASCO~]

Muffler and header is a good start... The battery is a good idea as well.. That light weight battery will be my next one when I need a new one... Ive got a new part we are working on now that will save about two more pounds, and look cool too... I guess when you add skid plates, crash bars, bags, Etc, it all becomes a wash..... LOL ::26::

 

[Twisties]

Muffler and header is a good start... The battery is a good idea as well.. That light weight battery will be my next one when I need a new one... Ive got a new part we are working on now that will save about two more pounds, and look cool too... I guess when you add skid plates, crash bars, bags, Etc, it all becomes a wash..... LOL ::26::

Anyone have specific weight saving specs for replacing the can, replacing the full system? Can this be done without changing the fuel mapping or getting into other tune issues? I am not after increased engine performance... just weight savings. Reducing the can size would help with the Jesse bags too. Could bring them in a bit more with a smaller can if it includes losing the oem heat shield.

 

[Karson]

Slip-on only doesn't involve a power commander and/or autotune to compensate.

The header does, however, require those to add more fuel...

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[Bigbore4]

Look at the link for slip on weights. I don't recall for certain, but I think the Arrow header netted 5 plus pounds, Jaxon may have accurate weights.

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=4212.msg75620#msg75620

 

[hANNAbONE]

for a non-reasonable $500-$1500 investment on purchasing a can and headers that'll save you maybe 10-15#

Perhaps no more buffets and beer for say o - I dunno - like 6 months....with some heavy cardio and a drop in weight (*me too, Jan*)

Spending lot'sa money for small opportunities in weight savings doesn't add up to me.

It ain't like your gonna be 150# rider on this big Trailie...c'mon now....

YMMV

 

[autoteach]

when I was accessorizing the bike I was thinking that a new rear sub frame with integrated bag mounts, rear set mounts, etc out of tubular steel would actually shed some weight. Seems like the core of the bike is too heavy to really see a great result.

 

[oregon-rider]

for a non-reasonable $500-$1500 investment on purchasing a can and headers that'll save you maybe 10-15#

Perhaps no more buffets and beer for say o - I dunno - like 6 months....with some heavy cardio and a drop in weight (*me too, Jan*)

Spending lot'sa money for small opportunities in weight savings doesn't add up to me.

It ain't like your gonna be 150# rider on this big Trailie...c'mon now....

YMMV

If I want to shed 10=15 pounds I will just skip dinner and give up beer and make money ::025::

 

[johnpitts01]

Best opportunities for weight savings are the rider, the camping gear and the exhaust.

What kind of camping gear do you have?
Get the lightest weight backpacking gear you can find.
Catalog your gear and at the end of every trip identify the stuff you didnt use and start eliminating.

 

[Twisties]

Best opportunities for weight savings are the rider, the camping gear and the exhaust.

What kind of camping gear do you have?
Get the lightest weight backpacking gear you can find.
Catalog your gear and at the end of every trip identify the stuff you didnt use and start eliminating.

The rider, remarkably, is down 15 lbs since he got the SupaT. ;D

Camping gear: Presently a down 15 F bag 3 lbs 3 oz, half of a 7 lbs two man backpacking tent, a water filter similar to this http://www.rei.com/product/695265/msr-miniworks-ex-water-filter , The Esbit stove http://www.rei.com/product/653343/esbit-pocket-stove , this sleeping pad http://www.rei.com/product/811907/exped-synmat-ul-7-air-pad . Also a single small aluminum cookpot, a plastic mug, plastic spoon, can opener, knife, dry bag, rope and two large steel nuts (for hanging stuff in bear country, nuts to tie on rope to swing it over a branch... hope there are trees). Also some freeze dried coffee, tea bags, sugar, dried milk. A bag of granola and a bag of jerky in case we get caught out. Looking at about 12 lbs I think.

Generally plan to pick up food fresh on the road as we go. Pretty much just planning to heat water for coffee when we camp. If we have to then we could do some canned soups, chili, stew, etc.

The thing I don't use that weighs a lot is the tool kit. It was 7 lbs. Now down to 3.5 lbs, but maybe getting some new additions added back. Going to set a 4 lbs limit there. The first aid kit has never been used, but it only weigh 1.5 lbs. I am planning to slim it down some.

The CPAP itself is only 3lbs, but the battery, charger, inverter, cords, etc add up. I just ordered a li-ion battery that will replace the old lead-acid job for a net 6 lbs savings. Total before li-ion about 13 lbs, new total about 6-7 lbs. It is a necessity.

Camera equipment is about 20 lbs. It is obviously optional... but I really can't see going without it. I'd probably rather just take the truck than leave anything from this.

Considered bivvy sacks for tent, but wife wants a place to get out of the rain and bugs. Fair enough.

 

[Brntrt]

Lose the Jesse's, get a GL Great Basin, ditch the stock exhaust, pillion seat, grab rails, and passenger peg mounts.


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[Twisties]

Lose the Jesse's, get a GL Great Basin, ditch the stock exhaust, pillion seat, grab rails, and passenger peg mounts.


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Mark

I wish. You are talking to the guy who just sold the OEM cases to get the Jesses because the OEM ones were too small.

 

[Twisties]

Akropovic clams 4.4 lbs savings....

http://www.akrapovic.com/en/Motorcycle/Products/Pages/Product.aspx?BrandId=a81d7ef6-f3ec-459c-9611-0874b0d816ff&ModelId=23e12da3-41e6-4d12-9f5e-5496d3930637&ModelYearId=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000&ProductId=1125&ProductFilter=Active&DisplayName=Yamaha%20XT1200Z%20S-Y12SO1-HAAT+Slip-On+Line+%28Titanium%29

Who else does aftermarket exhaust? I strongly prefer LEGAL! YMMV

 

[stevepsd]

Who else does aftermarket exhaust? I strongly prefer LEGAL! YMMV

Leo Vince

Arrow

Two Brothers

http://www.pipecity.com/Search/CategorySearch.cfm/_1/Street/_2/Yamaha/_3/XT1200Z%20Super%20Tenere/IP/2_6_0_0

Jaxon also sells the Leo Vince and Akra?

Leo Vince Carbon for me (soon)!

The Akra is very quiet, the quietest out there - close to stock. it shows it is 2kg (4.4lbs) less that the stock muffler (the others are lighter). Only available in Titanium. The websire shows that it needs periodic repacking. http://www.akrapovic.com/en/Motorcycle/Products/Pages/Product.aspx?BrandId=a81d7ef6-f3ec-459c-9611-0874b0d816ff&ModelId=23e12da3-41e6-4d12-9f5e-5496d3930637&ModelYearId=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000&ProductId=1125&ProductFilter=Active&DisplayName=Yamaha%20XT1200Z%20S-Y12SO1-HAAT+Slip-On+Line+%28Titanium%29

The Leo Vince is also quiet but has a nice growl when on-the-gas, plus as removable db killers. Available in carbon Fiber & Titanium versions. It also requires periodic repacking. It is 2.3kg (5lb) less that stock. ( http://www.leovince.com/en/catalog-yamaha/terminale_factory_omologato_evo_ii_passaggio_standard_xt_1200_z_super_t_n_r_i_e_2010/12655

The Arrow is quite a bit louder, probably because the can is fairly small. It also has removable db killers. Available in Aluminum & Titanium versions. It also requires periodic repacking. Arrow also makes the only aftermarket headers for the ST (they work with any of the slipons'). http://www.arrow.it/eng/prodotti/motociclo.asp?IDM=11&IDTab=1023

Two Brothers are not know for being quiet. THey show 6 different version for the ST (aluminum, titanium, carbon fiber). A db killer is available. http://www.twobros.com/cgi-bin/shopper?search=action&sku=005-31204&searchstart=0&template=Templates/TBRSearchResult-Simple-Yam-SuperTenere-SO_11.html

 

[elizilla]

If I want to shed 10=15 pounds I will just skip dinner and give up beer and make money ::025::

BTDT. It does NOT improve the handling of the bike. Think of it this way: You lose a bunch of weight from your body, but everything else remains unchanged. Now you are trying to physically dominate a machine that weighs 3.5 times what you do, instead of a machine that weighs 2.5 times what you do. You can still do it, but it's tougher. Especially with your blood sugar crashing.

And it's not even cheaper, because you have to buy all new riding gear. :

 

[tomatocity]

BTDT. It does NOT improve the handling of the bike. Think of it this way: You lose a bunch of weight from your body, but everything else remains unchanged. Now you are trying to physically dominate a machine that weighs 3.5 times what you do, instead of a machine that weighs 2.5 times what you do. You can still do it, but it's tougher. Especially with your blood sugar crashing.

And it's not even cheaper, because you have to buy all new riding gear. :

That does it I am going for 400 lbs then the YST will only be 1.5 times heavier than me Just joking! I do see your point and believe what you say, except... My YST handles so much better when I remove the panniers and tank bag. Dives into the corners quicker and holds a low line easier. It thinks its a 400 pound sportier bike. Just my two pennies.

 

[elizilla]

That does it I am going for 400 lbs then the YST will only be 1.5 times heavier than me Just joking! I do see your point and believe what you say, except... My YST handles so much better when I remove the panniers and tank bag. Dives into the corners quicker and holds a low line easier. It thinks its a 400 pound sportier bike. Just my two pennies.

Panniers and tank bag make the bike heavier, they don't make YOU heavier.

 

[Twisties]

....Or, I suppose, just thinking now, you could try turning the rear damping adjusting knob in the correct direction. ::010:: ::010:: ::010:: ::010:: ::010:: ::021:: ::008:: ;D DAMHIK

 

[3putt]

The springs changes made a huge difference, especially the rear shock spring which lifted the rear about an 1". Much quicker turnin, and yes the damping must be correct to take advantage.

We tested the esbit stove on an elk hunt, about useless especially if any wind or rain. I have one similar to this: http://www.backcountry.com/msr-dragonfly-stove?CMP_SKU=CAS0373&MER=0406&CMP_ID=GAN_GPLA&003=8219600&010=CAS0373-MF-ONSI&mr:trackingCode=193DC1DA-F061-DF11-9DA0-002219319097&mr:referralID=NA&origin=pla&mr:adType=pla

Small bottle of fuel lasted 10 days, and we used them morning and night for boiling water and heating mountain house freeze dried. Oh, and do not pack any ramen noodles.

 

[Davi Rozgonyi]

Not to be an ass, but YOU might be the best place to get rid of a bit of weight! Over the past year or two, with just a few small changes, I lost maybe 30 lbs, down to 170 (I'm 6'1). Maybe 40 pounds actually. That kind of weight is really noticeable on a bike, even one as beefy as the yammie.