Barnett pressure plate install (clutch part)

[~TABASCO~]

I am also wondering.

The stock Yamaha setup uses a diaphragm spring. The Barnett uses coil springs.

Not sure what functional difference that leads to...

ac

Its kinda like stock suspension to after market suspension... The stock will get you down the road.... the aftermarket is more fine tuned and more refined... The pull on the clutch plate feel is more linear and it locks up harder. This is hard to explain until a rider rides this on there own... Ya know, its like explaining good aftermarket suspension to someone who likes the stock suspension equipment ::008::

 

[~TABASCO~]

Nice deal on the Barnett clutch!! You are always on the hunt for new Items for the Tenere. ::008:: Now, can you get one for the 250?? ::26:: ::025::

Hey Jim !

Ive had these plates on several other bikes and I feel it was money well spent.. Especially on any "tuned motor" with a stock clutch... The stock clutch was designed for a stock motor. It will also help the longevity of the stock clutch. I dont think the 250 should have a problem because of the HP it produces. It WOULD benefit from the Barnett but probably over kill for that machine...
Your on the list for CO,,,, you thinking about getting some reservations ? Be a good time !!! bring both bikes ! ::008::

 

[scott123007]

Its kinda like stock suspension to after market suspension... The stock will get you down the road.... the aftermarket is more fine tuned and more refined... The pull on the clutch plate feel is more linear and it locks up harder. This is hard to explain until a rider rides this on there own... Ya know, its like explaining good aftermarket suspension to someone who likes the stock suspension equipment ::008::

Jaxon,
Let me ask you this another way then...
What is the difference (other than it's beautiful to look at) between the Barnett pressure plate and virtually every Japanese NON-DIAPHRAM pressure plate they have been using for a million years? Why would Yamaha redesign something to make it worse?

 

[avc8130]

Its kinda like stock suspension to after market suspension... The stock will get you down the road.... the aftermarket is more fine tuned and more refined... The pull on the clutch plate feel is more linear and it locks up harder. This is hard to explain until a rider rides this on there own... Ya know, its like explaining good aftermarket suspension to someone who likes the stock suspension equipment ::008::

hehehe

 

[avc8130]

Jaxon,
Let me ask you this another way then...
What is the difference (other than it's beautiful to look at) between the Barnett pressure plate and virtually every Japanese NON-DIAPHRAM pressure plate they have been using for a million years? Why would Yamaha redesign something to make it worse?

I got curious and started firing up the Google-foo. From what I can tell diaphragm springs are used to reduce cost and create a more compact clutch setup. They can also have a more evenly applied pressure to the clutch pack since the diaphragm spring exerts over 360* and the coils exert every 60*.

ac

 

[scott123007]

Thanks, AC. I get the cost cut part of it, but usually it has to be that, plus superiority (not just on paper) in every other way, to make it to production. Wonder how this made it through?
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[scott123007]

Ya know, its like explaining good aftermarket suspension to someone who likes the stock suspension equipment ::008::

Especially if they have just handed you your ass in a set of twisties or a little trail ride! LOL

 

[Don in Lodi]

I got curious and started firing up the Google-foo. From what I can tell diaphragm springs are used to reduce cost and create a more compact clutch setup. They can also have a more evenly applied pressure to the clutch pack since the diaphragm spring exerts over 360* and the coils exert every 60*.

ac

I'll add that the diaphragm clutch is very smooth and easy on the hand as well. Probably the main selling point for Yamaha. The Barnett is a stiff-er feel at the lever. Unnoticeable after a small getting-used-to-it period. It becomes noticeable again if you switch between bikes. I ran a Barnett for 60 some-odd thousand miles in my trailer pulling Royal Star. The higher clamp force was very much appreciated.

 

[~TABASCO~]

State Farm® - State of Disbelief (French Model)

 

[Karson]

I remember when that commercial first came out - LOL. Just as funny now as it was then. Bonjour *wink*

 

[tomatocity]

Is the new Barnett pressure plate and springs going to help the stock (most of us are) restricted 1 - 2 - 3 and traction controlled Yamaha Super Tenere's?

 

[~TABASCO~]

Is the new Barnett pressure plate and springs going to help the stock (most of us are) restricted 1 - 2 - 3 and traction controlled Yamaha Super Tenere's?

I would say, everyday use, its not needed.... Even if the bike is stock, and someone rides down in mud, sand, Etc.. It will help long term clutch wear in that regard... In my case, I don't have a stock motor and I do go down in the sand, mud, Etc. I have used these plates in the past on other bikes and they seem to me to be a good investment.. That the only reason I put one on the Tenere.

 

[AndyCBR]

What springs with this kit are most guys installing?

Theres the gold, black, and I guess you could mix 1/2 gold and 1/2 black.

Looking to do a clutch job soon and this is waiting in the parts bin for install.

Stock motor, some aggressive off road at times (why I am replacing clutches at 15k).

Thanks in advance.

 

[Karson]

What springs with this kit are most guys installing?

Theres the gold, black, and I guess you could mix 1/2 gold and 1/2 black.

Looking to do a clutch job soon and this is waiting in the parts bin for install.

Stock motor, some aggressive off road at times (why I am replacing clutches at 15k).

Thanks in advance.

I did all black

 

[Don in Lodi]

They give a list of the clamping forces, stock, all black, all gold, and a mix. Pick your poison.

 

[scott123007]

I'm curious as to why a company that has made literally millions of motorcycles with the same pressure plate and springs as what Barnett offers, would go with their current setup, if it was inferior? And no, it's not price point ::005::

 

[~TABASCO~]

I'm on my phone so I can't type a book.
The Barnett plate is much stiffer and does not have load deflection. It also offers six stiffer coil springs VS the standard diaphragm springs. It's one of those things you FEEL after you install the aftermarket. Probably not needed on a stock bike.

 

[Christoforos T.Pilitsis]

and done snot have load deflection.

Slow down there turbo.

 

[OldRider]

I'm curious as to why a company that has made literally millions of motorcycles with the same pressure plate and springs as what Barnett offers, would go with their current setup, if it was inferior? And no, it's not price point ::005::

All I can tell you is that the Barnett pressure works a lot smoother than the stock setup. Yamaha has made millions of ECU's, but that has been improved too. Same thing applies to windshields, shocks, tires, seats and a whole list of other things. One size doesn't fit all. Try the Barnett pressure plate and you'll see the difference.

 

[~TABASCO~]

Slow down there turbo.

Lol, thanks buddy