You're selling your bike, you're moving on, what NEXT ?

[SkunkWorks]

Yes Sir ! Ive been in MANY - MANY situations just like your photos ! ! I have SO MANY snap shots in my mind that I wish I had photos of ! I would think the vast majority of Tenere owners would even be MORE impressed with their own bikes, If I had those photos...... They are not "showing off" type photos, but "continuing down the trail" photos...... Some folks know this statement, others do not.............. when you're on a 800 mile BDR, there are many sections you might be 150 miles into a trail and you find something hard or something you dont really want to ride......... Well, guess what............. you cant turn around 150 miles........... You gotta find a way, challenge the bike, challenge yourself.... This bike is a beast in the right hands ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Full on dedicated trail bike, NO............. take you and get you out of virtually any situation, YES

My friend Cap'n Ron and I ran into this exact type of scenario when we were in Arizona last October. (I never did finish my ride-report from that Trip, I should get on that!)
We were on Day-5 and riding towards Crown-King, south of Prescott along the Ridges in the Forest.
Riding a section of challenging trail (for us, fully-loaded as we were), already 2-1/2 hours into this section we came upon THIS!
We found out later the locals were referring to this as "The Waterfall". It was either get the Bikes over, or turn around and ride the whole route we came from back to Prescott.
I was on my S10, and he was on his Vstrom-650. Both fully loaded with all our gear!
Neither of us wanted to give up and turn around................ But MAN this looked like a hefty Challenge!
Had I been by myself I'm not so sure I would have attempted it? We both dropped our luggage and walked it up the Hill, through the "Waterfall". Now we both had more incentive to get the Bikes over.
We took turns and helped each-other with the Bikes, and with some High-Fives and a Hug afterwards were both relieved and amazed at how capable these Bikes are!

Believe Me, these pictures don't really show how steep the Trail was here!





When we got to Crown-King, while enjoying their "Taco-Tuesday" lunch special and a Beer, one local older Gentleman was asking us all kinds of questions:
"How far have you guys been traveling?" "Where you headed?" .......that sorta thing.
He proceeds to tell us "You guys aren't headed up the Senator-Hwy are you? You won't make it through this one section where the road washed out on those bikes"
Cap'n Ron and I look at each-other and laugh............. I said to the local "What if told you we just came through that section on our way here?"
He didn't really know what to say to us after that. I think he might have thought we were lying to him?

Anyway. While we were enjoying our lunch-break, Cap'n Ron says to me "I'm not sure I'd ever ride that road again"
I looked at him and instantly responded with "I would ride it again with you!"

 

[~TABASCO~]

My friend Cap'n Ron and I ran into this exact type of scenario when we were in Arizona last October. (I never did finish my ride-report from that Trip, I should get on that!)
We were on Day-5 and riding towards Crown-King, south of Prescott along the Ridges in the Forest.
Riding a section of challenging trail (for us, fully-loaded as we were), already 2-1/2 hours into this section we came upon THIS!
We found out later the locals were referring to this as "The Waterfall". It was either get the Bikes over, or turn around and ride the whole route we came from back to Prescott.
I was on my S10, and he was on his Vstrom-650. Both fully loaded with all our gear!
Neither of us wanted to give up and turn around................ But MAN this looked like a hefty Challenge!
Had I been by myself I'm not so sure I would have attempted it? We both dropped our luggage and walked it up the Hill, through the "Waterfall". Now we both had more incentive to get the Bikes over.
We took turns and helped each-other with the Bikes, and with some High-Fives and a Hug afterwards were both relieved and amazed at how capable these Bikes are!

Believe Me, these pictures don't really show how steep the Trail was here!

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When we got to Crown-King, while enjoying their "Taco-Tuesday" lunch special and a Beer, one local older Gentleman was asking us all kinds of questions:
"How far have you guys been traveling?" "Where you headed?" .......that sorta thing.
He proceeds to tell us "You guys aren't headed up the Senator-Hwy are you? You won't make it through this one section where the road washed out on those bikes"
Cap'n Ron and I look at each-other and laugh............. I said to the local "What if told you we just came through that section on our way here?"
He didn't really know what to say to us after that. I think he might have thought we were lying to him?

Anyway. While we were enjoying our lunch-break, Cap'n Ron says to me "I'm not sure I'd ever ride that road again"
I looked at him and instantly responded with "I would ride it again with you!"

I 100% have the same feelings Ive had with my riding buddy.... He had I could retell your same story, been there done that..... We ran into 1-2 situations like that on the COBDR.... when we got to the finish in Wyoming, we both were quiet for five minutes and just hugged / high-five and took it all in............ I undertand the feeling of accomplishing something difficult...

Congratulations on that trail pass........ my first thought, NO THANKS, but Ive been on things like this in the past, and Im sure I will see it again....... LOL

 

[Bmwdumptruck]

Great pics guys. And hats off to anyone up to that kind of challenge. Personally I’ll never take mine offroad like that. Maybe a gravel road if one appears enroute. But with Contitrailattacks I know they’re primarily road only tyres.
So far my offroad antics have been limited to a couple of offroad days in the Welsh hills riding Beta300’s. Trying to get Permission to add something similar to my garage

 

[Reno]

Did not sell the S10 but added a KLR650 to the stall for some more technical rides that were not in the wheelhouse for the S10. At 65 my skills are slowing down not getting better. So there are some BDR routes that I will feel more comfortable on with a smaller bike.

 

[cyclemike4]

My friend Cap'n Ron and I ran into this exact type of scenario when we were in Arizona last October. (I never did finish my ride-report from that Trip, I should get on that!)
We were on Day-5 and riding towards Crown-King, south of Prescott along the Ridges in the Forest.
Riding a section of challenging trail (for us, fully-loaded as we were), already 2-1/2 hours into this section we came upon THIS!
We found out later the locals were referring to this as "The Waterfall". It was either get the Bikes over, or turn around and ride the whole route we came from back to Prescott.
I was on my S10, and he was on his Vstrom-650. Both fully loaded with all our gear!
Neither of us wanted to give up and turn around................ But MAN this looked like a hefty Challenge!
Had I been by myself I'm not so sure I would have attempted it? We both dropped our luggage and walked it up the Hill, through the "Waterfall". Now we both had more incentive to get the Bikes over.
We took turns and helped each-other with the Bikes, and with some High-Fives and a Hug afterwards were both relieved and amazed at how capable these Bikes are!

Believe Me, these pictures don't really show how steep the Trail was here!

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When we got to Crown-King, while enjoying their "Taco-Tuesday" lunch special and a Beer, one local older Gentleman was asking us all kinds of questions:
"How far have you guys been traveling?" "Where you headed?" .......that sorta thing.
He proceeds to tell us "You guys aren't headed up the Senator-Hwy are you? You won't make it through this one section where the road washed out on those bikes"
Cap'n Ron and I look at each-other and laugh............. I said to the local "What if told you we just came through that section on our way here?"
He didn't really know what to say to us after that. I think he might have thought we were lying to him?

Anyway. While we were enjoying our lunch-break, Cap'n Ron says to me "I'm not sure I'd ever ride that road again"
I looked at him and instantly responded with "I would ride it again with you!"

WOW! what a nasty section! I still don't know how a bike with out a cradle frame can get through these sections without busting the engine cases.

 

[TenereGUY]

Some States add an emergency medical services fee for motorcycles.

That is totally screwed up! I don't care if it is only $50.

 

[TenereGUY]

I think that the issue of "paying in cash or on credit"...is related to, how you receive the money that you are willing to spend on a motorcycle?...if you have the money saved that you received as a "salary", it will always be better business pay "less" paying in cash ... but if the money saved, that you have it because you earn it "investing money" (in whatever: build, buy and sell, provide a service, etc.) ... there you will have to observe that if you invested the money in your business and you can generate more, than the interest they charge you for financing the motorcycle….then, it is more business to buy it on credit, and than the investment of your money, pay the interest on the motorcycle... and leave something else for you
In my country the interest rate for financing is 100% annual…and a very few business give that annual rate, them, is better pay in cash.
Edit: And if you want something, and you don't have the money, but you can pay the monthly fee(with interest)… then, financing is the only way to satisfy your desire

Is that a misprint??? 100% rate?? So if I bought a $20,000 bike I would be close to paying $20,000 in interest?

 

[Checkswrecks]

Is that a misprint??? 100% rate?? So if I bought a $20,000 bike I would be close to paying $20,000 in interest?

Depending on the country - Absolutely.
IF IF IF you can get a loan.

& fwiw - Writing mortgage or other interest off on taxes is an American thing.

Plus, many countries have a 100% duty (or more) on vehicles not made in the country. Took this photo almost 10 years ago in a Harley shop in Taiwan when the same Electra Glide at the bottom would cost US $27,364. The conversion rate isn't massively changed and at todays' rate that TWD 2,469,000 would cost $80,500.
Before the loan.

 

[Sierra1]

Depending on the country - Absolutely.
IF IF IF you can get a loan.

& fwiw - Writing mortgage or other interest off on taxes is an American thing.

Plus, many countries have a 100% duty (or more) on vehicles not made in the country. Took this photo almost 10 years ago in a Harley shop in Taiwan when the same Electra Glide at the bottom would cost US $27,364. The conversion rate isn't massively changed and at todays' rate that TWD 2,469,000 would cost $80,500.
Before the loan.

 

[Jlq1969]

Is that a misprint??? 100% rate?? So if I bought a $20,000 bike I would be close to paying $20,000 in interest?

That's right….the interest rate is related to the inflation rate….here we have 90% annual inflation….so the interest will never be less than the inflation….
But even with 90% annual inflation….we are still cheap in relation to other countries (some things are cheaper, others more expensive than in other countries)……
but in general, the cost of living. monthly (in dollars)….it is much cheaper than in other countries…..

 

[Jlq1969]

These are the rates for loans in force today in Argentina…..the rates are annual….if you return the money in 30 days…the rate is 87% per year (or 7.5 per month)…..if you return it in one year 127% “annual”….

 

[Purificator81]

I am in the process of selling my 2012 S10 after I felt the bike needed a good retirement...now I got an offer for a 2021 KTM 1290 SAR for 16.000 usd and a 2021 GSA 1250 for 22.000 usd.....my heart says KTM while my lazy side says jeez no chain again....I will continue debating the choice and take time to reflect before making the jump..

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[thughes317]

I am in the process of selling my 2012 S10 after I felt the bike needed a good retirement...now I got an offer for a 2021 KTM 1290 SAR for 16.000 usd and a 2021 GSA 1250 for 22.000 usd.....my heart says KTM while my lazy side says jeez no chain again....I will continue debating the choice and take time to reflect before making the jump..

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KTM all day! For the $6K difference you can afford to skip chain maintenance and simply put a new chain on it every 5000 miles.

 

[Purificator81]

The issue of spending 10 years with a single bike is that it gets under your skin slowly and it kind of takena specific shape suitable to you to the point where when you wanna move on any new bike becomes problematic in its smallest details....

For instance, the KTM 1290 SAR, the rear passenger pegs are so close to the driver footpeg that it is so annoying and dangerous in terms of foot movement....the oem rear seat is not that comfortable for the pillion as well and a bit too narrow for the driver...you need a big and expensive upgrade to bring it to the comfort level of the S10...and forget about the flat seat trick we have in the S10.....

For the GSA: I just don't get along with legs restrictions due to the boxer cylinder heads...and I keep hitting my legs everyime I need to put my feet on the ground...

May be all the above is just the power of habits resulting from a long period of a single bike use...which makes the mind and body resisting change...but I thought to share it just in case someone was in a similar situation...

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[Dirt_Dad]

Interesting...I don't believe I've ever seen the words pillion and SAR put together. Never crossed my mind that someone on a SAR would have concerns about passenger comfort. Heck, I've never given a second's worth of thought about passenger comfort on the SAS.

That's a wonderful thing about motorcycles. We all get to use them however we see fit. Doesn't mean squat that I never thought about it. Could be the make or break factor for someone else. No single right answer.

Get the KTM. Most satisfying bikes on the planet.

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . Heck, I've never given a second's worth of thought about passenger comfort on the SAS. . . .

Well, duh, you don't have a passenger.

 

[Purificator81]

Interesting...I don't believe I've ever seen the words pillion and SAR put together. Never crossed my mind that someone on a SAR would have concerns about passenger comfort. Heck, I've never given a second's worth of thought about passenger comfort on the SAS.

That's a wonderful thing about motorcycles. We all get to use them however we see fit. Doesn't mean squat that I never thought about it. Could be the make or break factor for someone else. No single right answer.

Get the KTM. Most satisfying bikes on the planet.

Yeah get the KTM and ditch the passenger LOL! "KTM: ready for tribunal race" hahahaha

How do you compare it to the GSA 1250? I think I red in your previous posts that you had both...it would be great to get your unique perspective on both

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[Tenman]

Even if a Bmw was cheaper. Those cylinders sticking out makes it a no. I've never ridden one but those cylinders look like they would roast your legs and interfere with my preferred hiway peg location.

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . those cylinders look like they would roast your legs and interfere with my preferred hiway peg location.

I don't remember the heat being excessive, but in the summer everything feels hot. (your weather has to be similar) Peg location would likely be impacted. Even if the position could be the same, transitioning from one to the other could be inconvenient.

 

[Dirt_Dad]

Well, duh, you don't have a passenger.

True, but I don't see a SAR/SAS as fitting the mission of having a passenger. In my opinion they are performance machines, and not designed for 2 up. Yes, they can do it. A race horse can be hooked up to a carnival pony ride carousel...but it's just not the right fit.

Yeah get the KTM and ditch the passenger LOL! "KTM: ready for tribunal race" hahahaha

How do you compare it to the GSA 1250? I think I red in your previous posts that you had both...it would be great to get your unique perspective on both

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I've ridden but not owned a 1250. Really, really impressed with it in that short ride. I would have bought one if my dealer didn't give me a shockingly good deal on the SAS.

I bought the SAS with hesitation about the reliability because the deal was too good to pass up and at least not try the KTM. Nothing to loose.

Fast forward...the SAS is easily the most entertaining and reliable bike I have ever owned. Can't imagine what will get me to willingly let it go. I'm sure it will happen some day. Inconceivable at the moment.