What is a high mileage for a Super Tenere?

Don T

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I sold my 2010 gen 1 at 44k kms. I now have a 2015 gen 2 with 10k kms. They are almost different bikes. I would update if you can afford it. I don't like bikes with more than 40k kms. This one will be sold at 30k kms.

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He already have a gen2 bike, so it wouldn't be an update - just money out the window.

Looking at your yearly mileage it's obvious that you like farkling more than riding - nothing wrong with that - each to his own.
 

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I sold my 2010 gen 1 at 44k kms. I now have a 2015 gen 2 with 10k kms. They are almost different bikes. I would update if you can afford it. I don't like bikes with more than 40k kms. This one will be sold at 30k kms.

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Thanks for your input squarebore but as Don T said, my present bike is a Gen 2 with electronic suspension

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He already have a gen2 bike, so it wouldn't be an update - just money out the window.

Looking at your yearly mileage it's obvious that you like farkling more than riding - nothing wrong with that - each to his own.
I do about 11k kms each year. All recreation riding. No commuting or shopping. Riding is certainly not my "life". Just something else I do. And I'm not suggesting there is anything wrong with high mileage bikes, but in oz, they are hard to sell.

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We have a lot of members over 100,000 miles and iirc eemsreno is not the only person with more than 200,000. I know there are/were at least 2 FJRs well over 300,000 and the bikes have a lot of similarities. The biggest reliability problems outside of early cam chain tensioners were electrical in the Gen1 bikes and Mama Yama made those go away.

With the shaft, water cooling, and relatively under stressed engines, these bikes should approach the life of cars.

Would you trade a car out this early?
 

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We have a lot of members over 100,000 miles and iirc eemsreno is not the only person with more than 200,000. I know there are/were at least 2 FJRs well over 300,000 and the bikes have a lot of similarities. The biggest reliability problems outside of early cam chain tensioners were electrical in the Gen1 bikes and Mama Yama made those go away.

With the shaft, water cooling, and relatively under stressed engines, these bikes should approach the life of cars.

Would you trade a car out this early?
No I wouldn't trade a car this early. But they are relatively so much more expensive. I bought both my S10s for about AUD$15k. I sold the 1st one for AUD$12.5k after 44k kms. For an extra $2.5k I got a brand new superseded bike (bought a 2015 in 2018 still in the box). That is probably why it is worth it for me.

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No I wouldn't trade a car this early. But they are relatively so much more expensive. I bought both my S10s for about AUD$15k. I sold the 1st one for AUD$12.5k after 44k kms. For an extra $2.5k I got a brand new superseded bike (bought a 2015 in 2018 still in the box). That is probably why it is worth it for me.
With a killer deal like that it's a no brainer to update from gen1 to gen2.

Like you I enjoy farkling - or rather optimizing/personalizing.
The thing is that instead of emptying the farkling bucket over the bike from the word go, to me it's an ongoing process as I put miles on the bike and get to know it.
Especially when I travel on the bike I come up with new ideas - at 106.000 km it's still a work in progress.
This winter I've replaced the battery with a more powerful one, raised the rear, modified the seat, lowered the footpegs and switched from hard to soft luggage.
I really look forward to try out the new setup in the spring when I head out on a 3-4 weeks trip across Europe.
 

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With a killer deal like that it's a no brainer to update from gen1 to gen2.

Like you I enjoy farkling - or rather optimizing/personalizing.
The thing is that instead of emptying the farkling bucket over the bike from the word go, to me it's an ongoing process as I put miles on the bike and get to know it.
Especially when I travel on the bike I come up with new ideas - at 106.000 km it's still a work in progress.
This winter I've replaced the battery with a more powerful one, raised the rear, modified the seat, lowered the footpegs and switched from hard to soft luggage.
I really look forward to try out the new setup in the spring when I head out on a 3-4 weeks trip across Europe.
I had the gen 1 fully sorted with everything. This bike has only a few minor mods to keep it light. An extra 30kgs makes a huge difference for handling.

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Yeah that was the oldest bike I have ever owned. Always buy new and turn over quickly. I keep cars for 15 years but they are different. I'll probaly get a T700 in the next 12 months. I love to farkle and I love that new bike feel.


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The money you will lose selling a perfectly good 40,000 km Gen II could be used to add a second bike to the stable instead.
 

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He's done some riding for sure but for mileage I doubt if he would even be in the top 20.

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Paul had two Teneres and iirc the one with more had 187,000 so it'd be interesting to know where Pauls' Teneres rank. He left the model when MamaYama donated the Star Venture to the good cause he has been on for a while.

el Barco Lounger
 

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Paul had two Teneres and iirc the one with more had 187,000 so it'd be interesting to know where Pauls' Teneres rank. He left the model when MamaYama donated the Star Venture to the good cause he has been on for a while.

el Barco Lounger
Anyone care to take a stab at where this picture was taken?
My guess is the pass in GNP.
 

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I recently turned over 70,000 miles on my '15 ES. It runs as well as the day I bought it, perhaps better, and I have no intention of replacing it any time soon. The only issues I've had were warped front rotors that happened early on so I think this was more of a manufacturing defect than a wearing out thing. The OEM battery didn't fail outright but it felt like it was cranking slower and slower so I preemptively replaced that. Headlight bulbs are to be expected (both OEM and LEDs have failed). The bike still occasionally stalls once every few months, but less frequently than when it was new. It does not use any detectable oil between 5000 mile changes (always synthetic motorcycle specific oil). I've had none of the issues with spokes, CC switches, ABS or other seemingly rare problems reported.
 

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I’m at 85,500 miles on my 2012, the only real issue was I needed to clean the valves at 66,000 from running not the best quality gas while doing a 48 state ride.
Once that was sorted, all is good. The valves haven’t needed adjusting either, just cleaned. I’ll keep the 1200 even after I get a T-700 later this year. It’s not “worth” much to sell even though I know the motor is good for another 80,000+
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The money you will lose selling a perfectly good 40,000 km Gen II could be used to add a second bike to the stable instead.
I will probably only lose AUD$3000 at the most after 4 years and 40,000kms. I service my own bike and only like to change oils, filters and tyres. Hence after 40,000km it is time to change the bike. Most bikes I sell a lot earlier but happy to keep the S10 until 40K kms.

I've owned a few 2nd hand older bikes and have always regretted it. Just the little issues that need attention or fixing.

Anyway, if people like me didn't turn over their bikes at low mileage, there would be no good 2nd hand bikes to buy.

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Anyway, if people like me didn't turn over their bikes at low mileage, there would be no good 2nd hand bikes to buy.
You got a good point there, I bought my S10 with just 13,000 km on it and paid 8K less than the original owner had bought it for. He was even kind enough to add the OEM side cases and PIAA driving lights. I spent 3K of that savings on an XT250, another used bike with just 1,300 km on it. No issues with either, just gotta pick the right ones. :)
 

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Paul had two Teneres and iirc the one with more had 187,000 so it'd be interesting to know where Pauls' Teneres rank...
My iirc was he retired his first one (Barber Museum) at 147k miles and his second one had less miles when he switched to the Venture.

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Yes it was!! Only bummer was not being able to use my annual America the Beautiful National Parks Pass. Custer State Park is a separate fee. This is a really fun an relaxing ride in the off season.
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