What do we now think of the bike

[Longdog Cymru]

Another good reason to keep your S10

Yamaha XT1200Z Super Tenere Review - Mad or Nomad

Motorcycle Traveller Reviews: Yamaha XT1200Z Super Tenere by Marco Colelli.

www.madornomad.com

 

[Strummer]

Another good reason to keep your S10

Yamaha XT1200Z Super Tenere Review - Mad or Nomad

Motorcycle Traveller Reviews: Yamaha XT1200Z Super Tenere by Marco Colelli.

www.madornomad.com

Bravo Marco!!
A honest review I think

 

[lund]

I agreed with this review 100%, especially the comment on simplicity with less electronics, there are plenty of other adv models out there for those craving electronics, I'm glade Yamaha has stood fast on leaving the S10 as is for so many years. For certain people it may become the bike sought for in the future.
For my self it will remain in my stable for many years to come and that is coming from the BMW GS team, but then I do have a soft spot for Yamaha's.

 

[Reno]

I agreed with this review 100%, especially the comment on simplicity with less electronics, there are plenty of other adv models out there for those craving electronics, I'm glade Yamaha has stood fast on leaving the S10 as is for so many years. For certain people it may become the bike sought for in the future.
For my self it will remain in my stable for many years to come and that is coming from the BMW GS team, but then I do have a soft spot for Yamaha's.

I agree , with the S10 less is more for me, and the big overlooked item for me is the no chain shaft drive.
Japan may not make the best looking bikes, but they sure make the most dependable. Isn’t that what we want in a ADV bike? Sorry BMW, all your gadgets only equates to more problems I don’t need in the middle of no where.

 

[fac191]

Bravo Marco!!
A honest review I think

I think " Honest " really sums the S10 up, it's not trying to do anything other than what it was designed to do. And it does it really well.

 

[Longdog Cymru]

Here is a true story about gadgets on motorcycles, a cautionary tale perhaps.

My oldest friend and riding buddy bought himself a brand new BMW R1250GS. He has bought BMWs every couple of years since 2010 because he likes them after he rode my old R1150GS. Anyway, he is a bit of a Luddite when it comes to technology and since buying the R1250GS back in June he has struggled with the TFT screen and the menus to access simple things like switching on the heated grips and adjusting the suspension. He asked the local BMW dealers for help but still found himself frustrated by the menus.

He was riding up to North Wales for a weekend with his wife when she screamed and grabbed him as the car in front of them had stopped while he was trying to regulate the temperature of his heated grips! Fortunately, he stopped just in time without contact but it was so very close and could have at the very least ruined their weekend.

So, as much as I like technology, there is a time and place for it and not necessarily on a motorcycle! I shall stick with my S10 thank you very much!

 

[fac191]

Here is a true story about gadgets on motorcycles, a cautionary tale perhaps.

My oldest friend and riding buddy bought himself a brand new BMW R1250GS. He has bought BMWs every couple of years since 2010 because he likes them after he rode my old R1150GS. Anyway, he is a bit of a Luddite when it comes to technology and since buying the R1250GS back in June he has struggled with the TFT screen and the menus to access simple things like switching on the heated grips and adjusting the suspension. He asked the local BMW dealers for help but still found himself frustrated by the menus.

He was riding up to North Wales for a weekend with his wife when she screamed and grabbed him as the car in front of them had stopped while he was trying to regulate the temperature of his heated grips! Fortunately, he stopped just in time without contact but it was so very close and could have at the very least ruined their weekend.

So, as much as I like technology, there is a time and place for it and not necessarily on a motorcycle! I shall stick with my S10 thank you very much!

I have muffs on so can't see the controls. I do forget how to operate some stuff but I know where the important bits are. I would have pulled over myself. When I have someone on the bike i ride for them. I stick to simple rules.

 

[lund]

Here is a true story about gadgets on motorcycles, a cautionary tale perhaps.

My oldest friend and riding buddy bought himself a brand new BMW R1250GS. He has bought BMWs every couple of years since 2010 because he likes them after he rode my old R1150GS. Anyway, he is a bit of a Luddite when it comes to technology and since buying the R1250GS back in June he has struggled with the TFT screen and the menus to access simple things like switching on the heated grips and adjusting the suspension. He asked the local BMW dealers for help but still found himself frustrated by the menus.

He was riding up to North Wales for a weekend with his wife when she screamed and grabbed him as the car in front of them had stopped while he was trying to regulate the temperature of his heated grips! Fortunately, he stopped just in time without contact but it was so very close and could have at the very least ruined their weekend.

So, as much as I like technology, there is a time and place for it and not necessarily on a motorcycle! I shall stick with my S10 thank you very much!

I hate to admit it but I have experienced a very similar situation, while on my own though. Trying to set my GPS screen while on the move....F'n BAD IDEA... not recommended.
Anyhow, got away with it but could had ruin my day badly. This was on my GS in California on my way home from Panama, you figured I should know better after being on the road for 5months.
As you say, electronics has it's place.

 

[fac191]

I hate to admit it but I have experienced a very similar situation, while on my own though. Trying to set my GPS screen while on the move....F'n BAD IDEA... not recommended.
Anyhow, got away with it but could had ruin my day badly. This was on my GS in California on my way home from Panama, you figured I should know better after being on the road for 5months.
As you say, electronics has it's place.

As long as you get to learn from it no harm done.

 

[Sierra1]

I know car built in nav has to be updated periodically. I had a rare honest dealer tell me not to buy factory nav due to that. Just use Google maps. Does the BMW factory nav need updating? I would ass-sume such. Google maps updates on its own. And yes, I understand that I need cell service for it to work.

 

[Jlq1969]

I know car built in nav has to be updated periodically. I had a rare honest dealer tell me not to buy factory nav due to that. Just you Google maps. Does the BMW factory nav need updating? I would ass-sume such. Google maps updates on its own. And yes, I understand that I need cell service for it to work.

you do not need a cell signal. Simply, before leaving, download the area where you are going to circulate in “offline maps”…..only a route map….or a map with all the details…..the phone's gps will take care of moving the point over the downloaded map

 

[fac191]

I know car built in nav has to be updated periodically. I had a rare honest dealer tell me not to buy factory nav due to that. Just you Google maps. Does the BMW factory nav need updating? I would ass-sume such. Google maps updates on its own. And yes, I understand that I need cell service for it to work.

Don't know if it's different for you guys but we can download Google maps to use offline. I do it as a back up.

 

[Bill_C]

Don't know if it's different for you guys but we can download Google maps to use offline. I do it as a back up.

It's the same here. I do it as a backup to my more robust offline gps apps.

In case anyone is interested, you can go to mymaps.google.com and creat your own routes and then export them in various gps formats. I did this on my last trip and it allowed me to plug in every little backroad and byway I wanted to ride. I imported it into my OsmAnd app and it gave me turn by turn nav, all while being offline.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

 

[fac191]

It's the same here. I do it as a backup to my more robust offline gps apps.

In case anyone is interested, you can go to mymaps.google.com and creat your own routes and then export them in various gps formats. I did this on my last trip and it allowed me to plug in every little backroad and byway I wanted to ride. I imported it into my OsmAnd app and it gave me turn by turn nav, all while being offline.

Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk

Sweet !

 

[Sierra1]

Ok, so you're confirming what the salesman said. Cool. I've never needed Google Maps for long distance, but now I know it there. Thanks.

 

[fac191]

Ok, so you're confirming what the salesman said. Cool. I've never need Google Maps for long distance, but now I know it there. Thanks.

Worth doing for some places if your lost but have some idea where you are you can at least get a compass out if nothing else

 

[Sierra1]

The last time I drove cross country, maps were still in vogue. With a map, I can go anywhere.

 

[Jlq1969]

So….you guys tell me to download the maps and use it offline?…I'll try it…

 

[lund]

So….you guys tell me to download the maps and use it offline?…I'll try it…
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What is that?

 

[fac191]

So….you guys tell me to download the maps and use it offline?…I'll try it…
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This could be a long conversation.