V85TT for now

[Donk]

Audiowize you need to remember we are dealing with mechanical products that are massed produced. There are going to be some issues along the way but mostly decent bikes. You've pointed out what is wrong with KTM and Moto Guzzi but I've seen most any brand have a bike with issues and some bikes that never do. A good friend is riding a BMW now because his FJR sat in the shop for 6 months waiting for parts, another friend had the final drive seal fail on his near new S10 at 60mph dumping rear end fluid on his back tire, and the original batch of FJ-09s couldn't hold a valve adjustment for 18k miles yet overall I would tell you Yamaha makes a good product. Need to look at the glass the same way for all bikes. Can't say it's half full for some brands and half empty for others.

Come to the Fulton Lunch Run. There will be all brands of bikes there. You can compliment or rag on as you see fit

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . I've seen most any brand have a bike with issues and some bikes that never do. . . .

I can agree with this. I've had four Yamahas; three brand new. All three brand new ones had a loose fastener; screw or nut. The Tenere? Loose handguard bolt. Not even worth mentioning, but yes, not perfect. Honda ST 1300? Had a weird habit of shutting off when first started and full throttle applied, and then backed off. Never found out why. Know issue and planned for it. Not perfect. 2-KZ 1000P? Old technology but close to indestructible. First one burned up a stator. Then second one never had a problem. BMW RT? Fantastic bike for the first couple of years before the warranty expired. Had an insatiable thirst for oil but was told it was normal. And then the issues started. And two of the three had the same issues; 66%.

My point is that my experiences have been consistent with what many reliability polls claim: bikes from Japan have the highest reliability record. BMW, not so much. Dirt_Dad's experiences are kinda confirming KTM's place on those lists. Yes, I understand he's just one person. Hopefully CW has a trouble free MotoGuzzi.

 

[Madhatter]

Cw can never remove that sticker .....

 

[thughes317]

Audiowize you need to remember we are dealing with mechanical products that are massed produced. There are going to be some issues along the way but mostly decent bikes. You've pointed out what is wrong with KTM and Moto Guzzi but I've seen most any brand have a bike with issues and some bikes that never do. A good friend is riding a BMW now because his FJR sat in the shop for 6 months waiting for parts, another friend had the final drive seal fail on his near new S10 at 60mph dumping rear end fluid on his back tire, and the original batch of FJ-09s couldn't hold a valve adjustment for 18k miles yet overall I would tell you Yamaha makes a good product. Need to look at the glass the same way for all bikes. Can't say it's half full for some brands and half empty for others.

Come to the Fulton Lunch Run. There will be all brands of bikes there. You can compliment or rag on as you see fit

True. If you browse these forums you might be led to believe that the S10 has all kinds of issues with: ABS module, cruise control, leaky seals, spokes, windshield brackets, CCT, carbon on the valves, rough idle, jerky throttle that requires aftermarket flash to address, etc. Just saying.....

 

[Checkswrecks]

For the most part, we on this forum go on at length about all sorts of things which have nothing to with with Super Teneres breaking, because it is so darned rare. If you want to see a lot of bitching head over to most any of the BMW forums or threads. As Sierra mentioned, they can be great bike until the warranty runs out, then you couldn't give me one.

But that has little to do with the V85TT that this thread is about.
I expect at some point there will be some issue, simply because the Guzzis are more hand built and seems to me I saw they only made 1,500 last year. But parts seem to be readily available and people so far have maintained that the model is reliable.

 

[Sierra1]

I even have no issue conceding that yes, there are Beemers out there that have never given their owners one single issue. But that is not the norm. I also believe maintenance it a huge part of any bikes reliability.

 

[Sierra1]

. . . . But that has little to do with the V85TT that this thread is about. . . .

For those "street only" days: Moto Guzzi Drops All-New V7 Stone Corsa 750 Not sure why they're calling this the V7/750. It has the same 853cc motor that the V85TT has.

 

[Donk]

Nice looking bike.

In the early days of Superbike the Butler and Smith BMW was battling it out with the Moto Guzzi Le Mans. That's when I started liking Guzzi, still haven't owned one but I did try to buy a Norge this summer. That Le Mans was a beautiful bike and somehow Guzzi has managed to keep the recipe. They still make great looking bikes.

 

[Sierra1]

Back in the early '80s I was looking at the Le Mans. Had my Seca at the time. My dad warned me off from the Moto Guzzi. Said he'd heard their reliability wasn't all that great. I didn't much at all about them other than they cool looking but kind of expensive. Not long after then I rode an FJ for the first time and fell in love with it.

 

[Madhatter]

when the v85 first came out it had one big flaw , tubes in the tires ... all better now .

 

[Checkswrecks]

New V100 Stelvio

 

[Sierra1]

Looks like it has taken styling cues from several different bikes. If it wasn't for the unmistakable motor, even being water cooled, I probably wouldn't have guessed Moto Guzzi.

 

[Checkswrecks]

I see a lot of influence in the front from another line in the Piaggio motorcycle companies; the Aprilia Tuareg.

 

[thughes317]

New V100 Stelvio

Am I the only one that hates the fact that this new motor moves the exhaust ports from the front to the side?

 

[Sierra1]

Am I the only one that hates the fact that this new motor moves the exhaust ports from the front to the side?

Maybe Beemer got that right?

 

[Checkswrecks]

Am I the only one that hates the fact that this new motor moves the exhaust ports from the front to the side?

Sorta don't care because the engine is so good.
These are the guards for the Mandello and I'm sure the Stelvio will be similar.

 

[Tenforeplay]

Thought that was pretty cool MG would integrate the exhaust header and crash bar into one piece on the Stelvio

 

[audiowize]

Audiowize you need to remember we are dealing with mechanical products that are massed produced. There are going to be some issues along the way but mostly decent bikes. You've pointed out what is wrong with KTM and Moto Guzzi but I've seen most any brand have a bike with issues and some bikes that never do.

Yes, most of them do have issues. I believe Yamaha spends a little more time and money to get things right before they offer a product, and the willingness to offer a recall in a timely manner seems to be a lot better than some competitors on other continents.

 

[Donk]

Am I the only one that hates the fact that this new motor moves the exhaust ports from the front to the side?

It looks correct the exhaust is opposite the intake.

The Stelio is a good looking bike! It's hard to make an Adventure bike that doesn't look loike everyone else's and from the pictures it looks like they nailed it. When will it be available in the US?

 

[Donk]

Checkwrecks it sure looks as if the seats on the Stelvio are not going to be any better than the seats on the Explorer. Back seat looks really high relative to the front. Have to see one in person to know for sure.