Tenforeplay
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I would like to see a tutorial using the PV3. A step by step operation
Don't tease me with a good fiddle and diddle....I wonder, without fiddling and diddling, if anyone has had success changing the co number on gen 2 US version bikes using the pv3, since at the moment it is my belief that it must be dealer performed.
Me pregunto, sin andar con rodeos, si alguien ha tenido éxito cambiando el número de CO en motos de la versión estadounidense de segunda generación usando el pv3, ya que en este momento creo que debe realizarlo el concesionario.
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All that you have to do is to change the Alpha N AFR factor and Speed density AFR in their tables.
Thanks for your time and effort on this, I have some experience in this area and understand how complicated and interactive it can be. I do have a couple of questions and comments that I would appreciate your thoughts onThis thread will discuss tuning the 2014 and up Super Tenere with the Dynojet Power Vision 3 and theDynojet C3 Tuning Software
The following information is provided for educational purposes only. Custom tuning may void your vehicles warranty, violate emissions laws, and cause catastrophic mechanical damage. Any tuning is done at your own risk.
I took a look at the PV3 in this thread
I ended up buying one and tuning my bike.
I developed a custom tune for both the EU and USA versions of the bike. I've run the USA tune now for 5000 miles and another forum member is using the EU tune in the UK. He helped a lot test driving and logging data. So the tunes have two positive evaluations on two bikes (well, two is better than one).
Changes to the stock tune include:
Custom Sports Mode Drive-by-Wire Throttle Tables (fun and not too aggressive, no power limitations in any gear)
Custom Touring Mode Drive-by-Wire Throttle Tables (great for off-road throttle control, no power limitations in any gear)
Modified Sports and Touring Mode Deceleration Engine Braking (smooth engine braking)
Custom Ignition Timing Map (great drivability and fuel economy, not advanced as to require better fuel than recommended by Yamaha)
Disabled Deceleration Fuel Cut (no jerky fuel on-off)
Custom Adaptive Learning Alpha N table (closed-loop economy cruising and great open-loop throttle response when you get on it)
Custom AFR Factor Alpha N Table (smooth transition from stoichiometric cruise to power enrichment)
Seems that a lot of technical detail just bores most people (and takes up my time), so, feel free to ask questions. I can go into any technical details as requested.
The tune files are attached and can be opened and used with the free C3 software linked above. You do not need to own a PV3 to use the software. The PV3 hardware is needed to flash your bike and log data as desired. The tunes are not locked and can be edited any way you like.
Needing some help ! Bottom line is The tune software to edit and build is a little over my head. most of my tools have my SS # engraved in them were old !This thread will discuss tuning the 2014 and up Super Tenere with the Dynojet Power Vision 3 and theDynojet C3 Tuning Software
The following information is provided for educational purposes only. Custom tuning may void your vehicles warranty, violate emissions laws, and cause catastrophic mechanical damage. Any tuning is done at your own risk.
I took a look at the PV3 in this thread
I ended up buying one and tuning my bike.
I developed a custom tune for both the EU and USA versions of the bike. I've run the USA tune now for 5000 miles and another forum member is using the EU tune in the UK. He helped a lot test driving and logging data. So the tunes have two positive evaluations on two bikes (well, two is better than one).
Changes to the stock tune include:
Custom Sports Mode Drive-by-Wire Throttle Tables (fun and not too aggressive, no power limitations in any gear)
Custom Touring Mode Drive-by-Wire Throttle Tables (great for off-road throttle control, no power limitations in any gear)
Modified Sports and Touring Mode Deceleration Engine Braking (smooth engine braking)
Custom Ignition Timing Map (great drivability and fuel economy, not advanced as to require better fuel than recommended by Yamaha)
Disabled Deceleration Fuel Cut (no jerky fuel on-off)
Custom Adaptive Learning Alpha N table (closed-loop economy cruising and great open-loop throttle response when you get on it)
Custom AFR Factor Alpha N Table (smooth transition from stoichiometric cruise to power enrichment)
Seems that a lot of technical detail just bores most people (and takes up my time), so, feel free to ask questions. I can go into any technical details as requested.
The tune files are attached and can be opened and used with the free C3 software linked above. You do not need to own a PV3 to use the software. The PV3 hardware is needed to flash your bike and log data as desired. The tunes are not locked and can be edited any way you like.
The latest versions of Dynojet software no longer can change the parameters necessary for performance tuning. Even if you can get the older version 2 software I don't know if it will work on your bike with newest PV3.Needing some help ! Bottom line is The tune software to edit and build is a little over my head. most of my tools have my SS # engraved in them were old !
I have put together a new 2024 700. Mods include Delkevic full exhaust - GYTR Air Box from Germany - Charcoal delete - PV - 3
Dyno jets closest map was so lean the bike would start ,, begin to surge then stall, I recorded the start to stall and dyno jet took over my computer and made adjustments to fatten the bottom
it will idle but still with a slight searching or surging runs decent around the lot but still needs help. my first attempts at picking it up some downshift blips seem hollow and light
when I purchased PV -3 I thought it would display AFR. Now they say even with new O2 sensor and wideband add on that you still need to make the changes yourself
50 miles on bike dont want to ride lean. live in remote Utah . closest dyno a Harley shop 275 miles away and they only do Harleys
I purchased Airbox from Off The Road / Germany they have maps for free but only in UK version that they say will not work
T hank You for any help
Old Moto
1. The main gains are in the feel and response of the bike with great drivability. Based on driving the bike, there are gains in power across the rpm range. Peak power is probably not increased much. Fuel economy may be a little better. I have not put my bike on a dynamometer.Thanks for your time and effort on this, I have some experience in this area and understand how complicated and interactive it can be. I do have a couple of questions and comments that I would appreciate your thoughts on
1. Have you dyno'd a bike with this setup? Do you have any idea on if there is some performance or fuel economy gains
2. I currently run mine on 87 octane, and it seems to do fine, in your opinion will this still be possible with your ignition maps?
3. A couple of my major gripes are, off throttle engine braking, snatchy off throttle engine response especially in sport mode, and power reduction in the first 2 gears. Have you made any significant changes in these areas?