Tuning with the Power Vision 3

hulkss

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I finally got around to doing the PV3 tuning. I got the tuner late last fall. I dug into the instructions and various software last night and today did the pairing to bike + tuning with the map that Mr. Hulkss provided at the top of this thread. Doing this overwrote the Anthony tune I'd previously had. The Anthony tune was a good improvement and I still had one more update I could do with him, but I decided to go this route. I think I was probably a little conservative in what I asked Anthony to do for the initial tune, thought it was still a substantial improvement from stock.

I find the Hulkss tune to be a nice improvement. There are subtle differences across the modes, gears, and throttle positions. Overall, I really like the throttle behavior and how power rolls on or off. I only did it for a 30 minute ride today (40 degrees and windy) but I'd call it "livelier with more control." One thing I found is that it was easier to manage the throttle while covering the front brake lever. I did an initial ride around my yard and found the Touring mode much more controllable at slow speed. On the road, both Touring and Sport mode felt very good, with some clear distinction between them, as one would expect.

I can also tell that I'll need to tune myself to match the new tune. But two thumbs up and many thanks to Mr. Hulkss for taking the time doing the deep dive and sharing. I'm going to ride a while with this tune before thinking about changes.

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Eville Rich
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Thanks for the review. I just ride and enjoy my ST now. My tune is still the same as posted here. Touring mode is great for riding on dirt and it does not limit engine power or torque in any gear. As you get used to your "new" bike, the bike is also fine tuning itself.
 

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Got the Dyno jet 3 on order, says will work up to '21, mine is a '23, I didn't inquire with the company but I am assuming it will work with the newer models also if anyone can lend any insight? Also, can anyone verify if this works with Mac or am I going to have to invest in windows. Thanks. Looking forward to changing the tune to the one described earlier by the hulk.
 

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Hello, I understand, from conversations with members of this thread, that it only works on Windows.

On the other hand, The ST was discontinued in Europe in 2021, however it continues to be produced in other markets such as the USA or South America. I assume that what Dynojet means is that the ST model has not undergone any further changes since 2021 and therefore should work.
 

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Got the Dyno jet 3 on order, says will work up to '21, mine is a '23, I didn't inquire with the company but I am assuming it will work with the newer models also if anyone can lend any insight? Also, can anyone verify if this works with Mac or am I going to have to invest in windows. Thanks. Looking forward to changing the tune to the one described earlier by the hulk.
My bike is 2023 model, everything was fine.

Regarding Mac, until you do not edit file (custom parameter), there are good file here, and so your computer just serve as copy the downloaded file to your dynojet, same way as an external usb storage, that's it
 

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I still cannot understand why you would go this route when flash tunes are readily available for the ST.
It’s horses for courses, but the PV3 gives you the opportunity to personalise your tune. A standard flash can be as simple as disabling the O2 sensors and a fuel table remap on the dyno (with lower fan temperatures). However getting the throttle maps right is more difficult and can be a matter of personal preference, which the PV3 allows you to do. Similarly, the degree of engine braking is a matter of taste. Some like the brick wall effect of the stock decel, but I prefer much less in 1st - 5th gears and even less than that in 6th so that my passenger doesn’t nut me in the back of my helmet when I switch off cruise coming off motorways. Most tuners don’t touch spark advance because it doesn’t make any more power on the dyno and takes too much time. However, a little extra advance and smoothing out the spark curve makes a real difference to how the bike picks up, particularly off idle and at low revs. Again the PV3 allows you to build up a tune that suits you and the way you ride. If you significantly load the values in the accelerator pump table in the ecu and combine with a slightly richer open loop fuel map you can have a bike that encourages you to ride like a KTM lunatic, but you’ll pay at the fuel pump and with your licence.
 

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My bike is 2023 model, everything was fine.

Regarding Mac, until you do not edit file (custom parameter), there are good file here, and so your computer just serve as copy the downloaded file to your dynojet, same way as an external usb storage, that's it
Pardon my computer ignorance, it sounds like once I get the pv3, the mac will recognize it and I will be able to load the hulk tune and transfer it to the bike, but if I want to make adjustments that will have to be made through a windows computer?
 

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Pardon my computer ignorance, it sounds like once I get the pv3, the mac will recognize it and I will be able to load the hulk tune and transfer it to the bike, but if I want to make adjustments that will have to be made through a windows computer?

I used unmodified "hulkss" file at begining off the theard and it's wonderfull change it's solve everything wrong from factory.

If you want to edit the file just chearch in this thread about the software used to edit file and check with the software editor (company website) about support for Mac
 

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I have acquired a windows computer, can download the software from the dynojet website, when I try to open the file it says it needs something to read it. I've been on mac for 10 yrs and thought I'd try to switch back to windows and replace the aging mac. From my memory the windows computer should recognize the file and apply the appropriate whatever to format and read and make the data useable.

Can someone direct me to the program to work the PV3 or whatever it takes?

I think the issue is adobe wasn’t installed to read the firmware. Could that be a correct surmising?
 
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pooh and xtine

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I have acquired a windows computer, can download the software from the dynojet website, when I try to open the file it says it needs something to read it. I've been on mac for 10 yrs and thought I'd try to switch back to windows and replace the aging mac. From my memory the windows computer should recognize the file and apply the appropriate whatever to format and read and make the data useable.

Can someone direct me to the program to work the PV3 or whatever it takes?

I think the issue is adobe wasn’t installed to read the firmware. Could that be a correct surmising?
What is the error message? Did installing Adobe solve it? I don’t think Adobe is relevant to using the Power Core software.
 
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I go to their website under power core softwre suite (winPEP 80......, I can download the file, when I try to open it I get "The app you are trying to install isn't a microsoft verified app". Then I get the option to "Get apps from the store" or "Change app recommendation settings", which I did turn off security but that didn't make any difference, I still get the same message. From there things kind of go downhill.
 

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Progress! S mode has to be disabled on windows to download software from outside their store. That is a one way street, once disabled unable able so you no longer have access to the store.

Now I got to figure out a few more things...
 

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Thanks Hulkss and all those contributors, finally got it done! Much better than the stock tune. Tour is velvety and smooth like butter, sport is manageable with power. I can see where the tour is going to be useful on the gravel around here. The bike drives more like it has a carb, much more enjoyable.

Thanks!!

I looked and couldn't do it, if a moderator wants to delete some of my previous posts that is fine, I was mucking up the thread.
 

pooh and xtine

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Thanks Hulkss and all those contributors, finally got it done! Much better than the stock tune. Tour is velvety and smooth like butter, sport is manageable with power. I can see where the tour is going to be useful on the gravel around here. The bike drives more like it has a carb, much more enjoyable.

Thanks!!

I looked and couldn't do it, if a moderator wants to delete some of my previous posts that is fine, I was mucking up the thread.
Great that you got it working - my Windows 10 machine is so old nothing seemed to stop me from installing and using Power Core. I agree with you on the tune developed by Hulkss. The throttle and spark maps are sheer tuning excellence, although I use an open loop fuel map with no O2 sensors because I suspect that the EU4 ecu progressively leans out the mixture more than the US version if you have closed loop adaptive learning operating.
 

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Couple observations. I believe the mpg has gone up by a couple, at least. The throttle modulation off idle is much better in sport mode and in tour mode I haven't killed the motor from a standing start yet. Prior to the flash I was getting a little decel burble out of the exhaust, thinking because the arrow exhaust is a slip fit maybe air was getting in somewhere, but since the tune haven't heard anything.

Think a few more mpg at higher speeds could be had if the closed loop was extended into the higher rpm, like in the overseas tunes, wonder if yamaha did this for their higher highway speeds. Also think their funky low rpm ignition timing and other fueling maps were for the emissions thing that Hulkss removed.

Overall, have to still give it two thumbs up, batting .1000 so far.
 

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Maybe I'm missing something, but when I head over to Dynojet, the PV3 is no longer available and the PV4 appears to only be available for either Harleys or Indians.

I'm finally in a place where I'm comfortable attempting the remapping....but now I can't get the pieces? That sounds about normal for me, but I'd prefer to actually be able to get it done.

Thoughts? Hints?

Ok...dug deeper and found: https://www.dynojet.com/power-vision-3-for-2014-2021-yamaha-xtz1200-1/

This appears to have a CARB Exemption Order (which is scary unto itself). I guess the major question I have is if anyone knows if this will allow the use of hulkss mapping. If it's limited to something put together by Dynojet, I'm honestly not super enthused as I am super interested in hulkss map and everyone's response to that is what really has me wanting to remap this thing.

If anyone knows if this is somehow limited compared to: https://www.dynojet.com/power-vision-3-14-21-yam-xtz1200-pv3-22-16/ (which is one that is out of stock and has been superseded....but I can't find anything that has superseded it. Which is confusing, but hey, it's a Monday!
 
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pooh and xtine

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I think the new one just has a colour screen, otherwise it’s the same. As always, it’s wise to check with Dynojet to be sure.
 
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