Troll's first ride impressions

[troll]

Altrider has a youtube video showing the installation of the 2"Rox risers on the ST10 and they state that they work without the need for longer cables. I'm at work and youtube is blocked or I would happily provide the link.

Now that you mention this video I remember seeing it as well.

 

[troll]

The hand guard contacts the tank :question: . I'm assuming the handguard doesn't contact the tank when the bike is uppright , so how does that happen in a low speed fall :question:

Hey TC, Down hill fall to the left side, the rub bars, handguards/bar ends and rear passenger pegs are the contact points with the ground. front wheel turns into the ground swinging the ground side bar end to full lock. My bars were rolled back just a bit and the hand guard was pushed by the slight forward movement into the tank. With the bike up-right at full lock the handguards were just clearing the tank by 1/8" - 1/4" on both sides. very close, any downward rolling pressure on the handguard puts it in contact with the tank at full lock. The handguards are all plastic and very flexible and the bar end fixture point pivots easily.

 

[tc9988]

Hey TC, Down hill fall to the left side, the rub bars, handguards/bar ends and rear passenger pegs are the contact points with the ground. front wheel turns into the ground swinging the ground side bar end to full lock. My bars were rolled back just a bit and the hand guard was pushed by the slight forward movement into the tank. With the bike up-right at full lock the handguards were just clearing the tank by 1/8" - 1/4" on both sides. very close, any downward rolling pressure on the handguard puts it in contact with the tank at full lock. The handguards are all plastic and very flexible and the bar end fixture point pivots easily.

Thanks for the explanation and sorry about your biff but as noted everybody will have one sooner or later

 

[colorider]

Hey TC, Down hill fall to the left side, the rub bars, handguards/bar ends and rear passenger pegs are the contact points with the ground. front wheel turns into the ground swinging the ground side bar end to full lock. My bars were rolled back just a bit and the hand guard was pushed by the slight forward movement into the tank. With the bike up-right at full lock the handguards were just clearing the tank by 1/8" - 1/4" on both sides. very close, any downward rolling pressure on the handguard puts it in contact with the tank at full lock. The handguards are all plastic and very flexible and the bar end fixture point pivots easily.

Can you take a picture showing the dimple and the bars turned like when the accident happened?

Thanks!

 

[digitalmoto]

Link to AltRider "How to" mentioned above:

ROX Risers on the Yamaha Super Tenere - How To

 

[limey]

Thanks for the great report troll.. 5 more days for me.. ;D

 

[troll]

Thanks for posting up that video Digitalmoto, I do remember seeing it now.

I think I have come across what others have been calling the snatchy throttle. In low gear the throttle feels pretty sensitive due to abrupt engine braking and what feels like abrupt fuel introduction. The engine response to throttle changes is very noticable with the torque of low gear. It takes a very steady hand or a shift up or feathering it out with the clutch. Makes it feel like the throttle is either off or on. Not sure what to think about it yet, and it can definately be worked around as noted above.

 

[Venture]

Thanks for posting up that video Digitalmoto, I do remember seeing it now.

I think I have come across what others have been calling the snatchy throttle. In low gear the throttle feels pretty sensitive due to abrupt engine braking and what feels like abrupt fuel introduction. The engine response to throttle changes is very noticable with the torque of low gear. It takes a very steady hand or a shift up or feathering it out with the clutch. Makes it feel like the throttle is either off or on. Not sure what to think about it yet, and it can definately be worked around as noted above.

Does it exhibit the sntachiness in both sport and touring mode, or just sport? I'm very familiar with snatchy throttle, since it's one of the Tiger 1050's biggest issues. I had to richen up the fueling on mine to smooth it out.

 

[Venture]

Well, 325 km the first day and I managed to take the shine off at the end of the day. layed this tall bike over in my buddies yard while turning around in loose gravel on a slope. not bad, had to happen with my short legs, could not get my foot on the ground on the low side fall :-[. The hand guard put a small dimple in the tank and of course my pride got a little dimple as well. Thank goodness I got that done with - I am sure it will not be the last nick in the tin that this bike will get. The first scratch is always the hardest to accept and noooo I will not post pictures :.

I know this feeling, and it sucks. Personally I like when my vehicles finally get into "beater mode" because I just enjoy them more that way. I never could understand religious washing and waxing when it just gets dirty again. Function over form!

 

[rem]

Does it exhibit the sntachiness in both sport and touring mode, or just sport?

It does it in touring as well, but not as bad as my ST1300, so I didn't pay much attention to it. It doesn't concern me much. R

 

[colorider]

I never could understand religious washing and waxing when it just gets dirty again.

I understand it and am VERY much guilty of it............. )

 

[digitalmoto]

I understand it and am VERY much guilty of it............. )

I've had friends wash my DL-1000 (without permission) because they were offended at the multiple layers of bug guts and mud.

What's the point? I'm just going to get it dirty again.

 

[tc9988]

I've had friends wash my DL-1000 (without permission) because they were offended at the multiple layers of bug guts and mud.

What's the point? I'm just going to get it dirty again.

Do you ever shower, probably not what's the point you're only going to get dirty again

 

[digitalmoto]

Do you ever shower, probably not what's the point you're only going to get dirty again

Shower? As in water and soap and stuff? Why would I want to do that?!?

(Because his wife makes him...)

 

[troll]

What's the point? I'm just going to get it dirty again.

I'm there with ya Digi, ride it hard and put it away wet - this ain't not garage princess or trailor queen. :-* : I do bath occasionally ???

On the throttle discussion, I think it is systemic to fly by wire. Some probably worse than others. This is my first fly by wire bike. My Subaru car behaves in a similar way, very distinct throttle on - throttle off

 

[Waspworks]

I know this feeling, and it sucks. Personally I like when my vehicles finally get into "beater mode" because I just enjoy them more that way. I never could understand religious washing and waxing when it just gets dirty again. Function over form!

There's nothing wrong with a few scratches, scuff's, and dents. If you dont drop it once in a while your no testing the limits.

On the subject of cleaning your machine: I could never understand how folks could leave their bike (or any machine for that matter) in a constant state of un-wash.
I actually find the washing and detailing of my bike therapeutic, but more importantly it is the perfect time to notice (and rectify) loose spokes, bolts, crack's, covers missing, fluid levels low, tire/rim damage, globes/lights etc...
As well as rectifying stains before it reaches a point of having paint and alloy surface damage.

With the right system and approach it really only takes a couple of hours to take any bike from this:

To this:

This bike is twelve months old now, and having traveled 16000kms (20% of that VERY hard dirt riding on jeep and single trail) looks the same now as it did when I rode it out of the show room.

IMHO not cleaning your bike at least every month or so is not only lazy but potentially costly and dangerous.
Not only is my bike well maintained because of my cleaning routine, but the re-sale will also always be much higher than a bike that is less cared for.

Not pointing the bone at anyone, and just my two cents worth...

OK - Crank up the heat!!!...

Greg.

 

[GrahamD]

IMHO not cleaning your bike at least every month or so is not only lazy but potentially costly and dangerous.
Not only is my bike well maintained because of my cleaning routine, but the re-sale will also always be much higher than a bike that is less cared for.

Not pointing the bone at anyone, and just my two cents worth...

OK - Crank up the heat!!!...

Greg.

Totally Agree. What heat?

 

[Waspworks]

What heat?

Just waiting for the flame fest... Not everyone enjoys being told they are lazy :'(

Greg.

 

[colorider]

Totally Agree. What heat?

+ 1

None of this from me!!!

 

[Buckeye56]

If the throttle snacthiness is no worse than the ST1300 I won't see it as a big deal. I added a G2 Throttle Tamer and that helped some. As for cleaning, I guess I fall in between the two extremes. Maintenance wise if ollow the manual except I change oil and filter every 5,000 miles ( just because it is easier to remember!). The bikes are washed regularly and waxed a couple of times per season. So does that mean I am a little lazy? I do agree that taking the time to lay hands on the bikes does allow one to see potential issues before they become a major problem.