Exactly, which make it safer to ride on the road.Watching that video, in slow motion, that tire left yaw marks. To do so, it was gripping the pavement. It also sounded like he applied throttle. I mean it IS a knobby tire....leaned over in a curve....on pavement. That's why I use 90/10 tires.
You don't agree with what I said then. Let me re-state:...<snip>...
@ jeckyll - I don't disagree with what you said. Too often I see spirited riders that are not able to deal with the unexpected. Deliberately dragging hard parts on a regular basis is not leaving any room for error. If you get even a tiny thrill of adrenaline from riding on the street, step back and look hard at that behavior. The thrill is because you lack the skills to KNOW you can make that corner at that speed. If you had the skills, you wouldn't get the adrenaline rush from it. That is fact. One few people will accept. I enjoy a spirited ride as much as the next person. I'm not scaring myself when I'm doing it.
If you're riding the same roads all the time, sell the bike. Buy a track bike and go to the track days. You'll have more fun and won't miss street riding any.
I own everything I need to own and have for decadesYes, nice bike for the track. So why ride at a spirited pace on the street? And what I said was if you're dragging hard parts, not a knee down. Knee down doesn't mean dragging hard parts and you still have a margin to adjust. If you're dragging hard parts, no margin.
And I stand by my previous words. If you're getting a thrill, you're not sure you can make it. Own that and consider the truth. If you knew you could make it, it's just riding. Take it to the track for the adrenalin rush.
Is that bike that small, or are you that big?And I've got a bike that does fine at the track
Hmmmm....never thought about it that way. And, you're probably right. But....I'm kinda weird. The track isn't scary to me. It's actually calming....everybody is paying attention to what they're doing....nobody is on a cell phone....nobody is drunk....and nobody is doing 15mph under the speed limit, with their left blinker on. The street is where I'm not sure I'll make it; but it's not a good adrenalin rush. Gimme a good road with no dumbasses, and a good view....THAT's where I get the thrill. Oh, almost forgot....gotta have my music too.….If you're getting a thrill, you're not sure you can make it....If you knew you could make it, it's just riding. Take it to the track for the adrenalin rush.
Haha, yeah we have one here. Lucky he knows it all so we don't need an opinion or a thought.I was in France a couple of weeks back and at the top of the Col De La Bonnette I was approached by another Brit who went on to tell me about how I wasn’t touring correctly, how I should be camping instead of hotels, how I was missing out by not doing the passes he’d done, as they were better, how he’d toured multiple times so knew better, how his open face lid was better suited to touring and so on............... he appeared to assume I was a novice and took no time to engage in discussion, but just talked at me, trying to impose his opinions on me. He was a nice enough chap, but just another I, I, I, me, me, me, I know best, preachy biker, we all know them.
I made my excuses and left.
Perhaps you're right Jiq. That's not a distinction I've made in the past. I don't ride for thrills. I see people that do as just another hazard to avoid. Sadly, probably 80% of the riders I see on the road don't know how to ride on the street and have never been taught a different way to ride on the street.I think, are confusing the Hormones. Eric refers to ADRENALINE, like the the boy in the video secretes because he scare when skid ... Sierra, you're talking about ENDORPHINE, because you enjoy what you do .... If the tire makes you feel adrenaline, it's not the right tire ,or is the tire adequate but the driving style is incorrect...I think the video, it was the pilot's mistake, it is not the factory tire, he would have to know that with that tire, he cannot accelerate in that way in a curve. It is not a matter of hard or soft compounds
I'm 6'1".Is that bike that small, or are you that big?
OK Eric, Fair enough, well then take how about you take a nice long lasting street tire and ride in the dirt and see how safe it is. No matter how good of a rider you are a smooth tire will not be safe when getting off the pavement. Please don't take my word for it. Simply ride up to the Jimmy Lewis Riding School on anything less than a knobby mounted on your bike. You will either mount a big block knobby or not be included in the class. Why? Because it's not safe.Chris wanted a debate. Mileage Vs safety. I don't see those as mutually exclusive things. I just don't see tire compound having a significant impact on how we ride or our individual safety.