The Super Tenere is USA Certifide June 10th

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Excellent. I hope there are no other certs they need to go through. ;D
 

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Brntrt said:
Now thats some NEWS!!!!! Here they come. ;D ;D
WooHoo!!! As of tomorrow, we can say "we will have them next month!!!"
 

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So are they "in-port" to get certified? On the 10th ? That would be very cool... ! ! !
 

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BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED:

I'm started to get a little excited.
 

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~TABASCO~ said:
So are they "in-port" to get certified? On the 10th ? That would be very cool... ! ! !
Na, all the testing is done in a lab. Yamaha I am sure has their own, as does the company I work for. Most manufacturers do their own cert runs in an in house lab.

You file the papers and if all passes muster CARB issues the "Executive Order" which acknowledges the bikes meet the standard when configured as described in the application. Same for EPA.

However, without the CARB executive order, you could not sell in CA.
 

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Na, all the testing is done in a lab. Yamaha I am sure has their own, as does the company I work for. Most manufacturers do their own cert runs in an in house lab.

You file the papers and if all passes muster CARB issues the "Executive Order" which acknowledges the bikes meet the standard when configured as described in the application. Same for EPA.

However, without the CARB executive order, you could not sell in CA.
So CARB just signed off on the paper work on the 10th... ? All the paper work prolly has to be done and ready when the ship comes in....... so they dont get sent back...
 

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So CARB just signed off on the paper work on the 10th... ? All the paper work prolly has to be done and ready when the ship comes in....... so they dont get sent back...
My guess would be that the same setback that delayed shipment delayed cert. If they had to qualify a new part, I seem to recall a thread here or on ADV said ECU, that is a certified part and to change it would mean reapplying for the exec order. They probably had the process all but in the bag when things went to heck in Japan, and had to start fresh.
 

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I doubt this has diddly-squat to do with where production bikes are in the pipeline as testing is done on prototypes and probably occurred months ago. And I doubt it would have anything to do with whether bikes can come into the country. The importer needs this paperwork to legally sell and license the motorcycles, not ship them.

And the EPA and CARB don't certify actual parts that go into production motorcycles. Yamaha can switch parts suppliers (i.e., ECU mfgs) as long as they certify that the production parts meet the same specs as the prototype that passed the tests. I think there is also a process where the mfg can make limited changes and provide documentation that the changes would not increase emissions based on engineering analysis. This allows some latitude to make minor changes without having to redo all the tests from scratch.

Basically, this certification has to do with approving the design and emissions control system of the motorcycle, not the actual bikes being shipped.

It does maybe mean that Yamaha wouldn't have been able to sell S10's in CA back in May even if they had arrived then. But they may have deliberately slowed down the process when it became clear that production was being postponed.

Final Note: This is CARB certification for CA, not 49-state EPA certification. There is a separate process for EPA. The CARB tests are pretty limited - I think they just check for evap emissions (for the bike just sitting) and a couple of other things that the EPA doesn't. As I recall, I think we did get information a while back that indicated there would be separate 49-state and CA models.

- Mark
 

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Where, and how the heck did you find that info.... ? :D Some people know where to look ! ! ! Good job ! ;)
I can't take credit for finding this site. Someone posted this site on here months ago and I added it to my favorites.
 

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Great news! The bikes might be at the dealership, before the demo ride I'm planning on attending. Wouldn't that be funny.
 
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