The next chapter...KTM Super Adventure S

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I'm lucky. The FJR is my second favorite bike. If I want/need one, all I just have to do is call my youngest kid and steal his. Otherwise, there's not much out there that I pine for.
 

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What is it about a 17" front wheel that you don't like?
It's mostly the bikes to which the are attached. Bike that are limited to pavement frustrate me. Plus, I have to admit, I'm a needy guy. I only enjoy bikes that need a skilled rider to ride them at a high level. My experience with 17" bike, such as the FJR, or even my FZ1, is they are too easy to ride. They don't need me to have sharp skills to go fast in the twisties, heck, they don't need me at all. Which only forces me to ride faster. I'm not about high speed, I'm about high satisfaction. I find 19" fronts to require more skill to ride at a high level. It's more challenging, more interesting, more gratifying, more rewarding to master a 19 inch. At least that has been my experience.

I always compare a 17" to flying a Cessna 172. The 172 is so easy to fly if you can get it to the runway and push in the throttle, it will take off, fly and land all by itself. Or it seems like it. After 6 years of Mooney flying, that just didn't work for me. I guess I need to feel like I'm necessary. Like I said, I'm a needy guy.
 

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I rode my mates GSXR750 the FI one. Had a big bore kit on it and other mods. It was tiny. I rode it on a quick road with some nice bends. Looked down at the speedo and couldnt believe how fast i was going. To easy. He lost it over a wall on the Isle of Man following someone who knew the road better than he did. Got an R1 after that. Didnt last long. Still alive though but lucky the Air Ambulance took him for a ride.
 

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That's one of the magical things about the SAS. I can feel like I'm pushing it hard in the curves but when I glance at the speedo I'm not going nearly as fast as I would have guessed.

For me, that's awesome. I ride for my own entertainment. If I can get that satisfaction at lower speeds I'm good with that.

I'll never claim to be a fast rider. But as far as I can tell, those who have ridden with me don't appear sleepy at the end of the day.:cool:
 

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. . . . is they are too easy to ride. They don't need me to have sharp skills . . . .
Once again, I look at things just a little differently. I want the bike to be easy and predictable. Because traffic isn't. When the doody hits the fan, and I have to pick an escape route . . . . I want easy. Just one less thing I have to worry about.
 

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Dirt-Dad when I went from a Multistrada to the '15 SA the first thing I noticed was how easy the bike was to ride fast. No drama always seemed like I was going slower than I was especially in the twisty stuff. Bike was just easy. I don't think wheel size has much to do with it. I have ridden bikes with 17" front wheels that were so good that they put you to sleep and the '20 SA R/S is the same way. I've ridden bikes with 17", 18', 19" and 21" front wheels that terrified me and I prefer never to ride again. All comes down to how the whole package works and what you are comfortable with.

I always considered the 172 as a good reason to give up flying. Owned a Super Cub and could never see the reason to fly in a 172. Rather take my truck.
 

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Once again, I look at things just a little differently. I want the bike to be easy and predictable. Because traffic isn't. When the doody hits the fan, and I have to pick an escape route . . . . I want easy. Just one less thing I have to worry about.
I never (almost never) ride for transportation. All my riding is recreation, so I rarely deal with traffic.

Dirt-Dad when I went from a Multistrada to the '15 SA the first thing I noticed was how easy the bike was to ride fast. No drama always seemed like I was going slower than I was especially in the twisty stuff. Bike was just easy. I don't think wheel size has much to do with it. I have ridden bikes with 17" front wheels that were so good that they put you to sleep and the '20 SA R/S is the same way. I've ridden bikes with 17", 18', 19" and 21" front wheels that terrified me and I prefer never to ride again. All comes down to how the whole package works and what you are comfortable with.

I always considered the 172 as a good reason to give up flying. Owned a Super Cub and could never see the reason to fly in a 172. Rather take my truck.
I've ridden very few 17" bikes. All of them were useless or at least undesirable on a dirt road. When I come upon a dirt road that looks interesting and I don't take it because of bike limitations, I end up getting a bad attitude about that bike. That is at least 50% of my dislike of the 17" wheel bikes.

I've been out of an airplane for so long now, I think I might appreciate a C-172 for a little while.
 

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My 1290 Super Adventure sold today. Great bike, glad to see it go. I enjoy riding the 890 more.
 

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Congrats on the sale.

I'm looking forward to getting the 890. I can't imagine it replacing my SAS, but I am ready to get dirty with it.
 

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Quite funny story actually. Bike sat for sale at the shop for months with zero interest. Decided what the heck I'll take it home and keep it but it was still online on the shops website. This week I ordered a Wings slip on exhaust for it. Day later guy walks into the shop and wants my bike. We drive 20 minutes to my house he sits on it and says, "I'll take it" no other questions asked. So with temps hovering in the high 20s I rode it back to the shop he paid for it loaded it and left. The Wings slip on had already shipped from the manufacturer in Europe and will be here next week. Hint hint if anyone wants a NEW Wings slip on for a heck of a deal let me know. Truth be told if I knew all I had to do was order a slip on to sell the bike I would have done it months ago!

It would be pretty hard to throw stones at the 1290 Super Adventure. It's a great bike even if it has a fob instead of a key. I like the 890 more, it just puts a smile on my face every time I ride it. To each their own.
 

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It's a great bike even if it has a fob instead of a key. I like the 890 more, it just puts a smile on my face every time I ride it.
That's funny. One of my minor disappointments with the 890 is I'll have to deal with a key again.

I have a lot of anticipation waiting for it to arrive. Already have a dirt heavy route planned for the ride home. Just hope it's no 20 degrees that day.
 

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I watched so many 890 videos lately that I had seen that one.

Can't imagine the sinking feeling you'd have watching your bike burn.
 

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I happen to own TWO KTMs and think both of them are the best bikes I have ever owned in their class. As a matter of fact I feel my 125SX is made so perfect that not one thing on it has ever been out done by another manufacture.
I'm also very interested in owning an 890.
This just happens to not be the forum for it. It's like going over to a BMW forum and ranting about how great the Tenere is.
If you have moved on then move on.
 

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I happen to own TWO KTMs and think both of them are the best bikes I have ever owned in their class. As a matter of fact I feel my 125SX is made so perfect that not one thing on it has ever been out done by another manufacture.
I'm also very interested in owning an 890.
This just happens to not be the forum for it. It's like going over to a BMW forum and ranting about how great the Tenere is.
If you have moved on then move on.
I think that rather than saying something bad about KTM, it would be good to create a Thread about which is the best portable fire extinguisher….
 
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