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Man one of my fellow coaching buddies is up at the Yammi dealer right now riding demo's. He has already ridden the XT and FJR. He texted me saying the XT is soooooooo fast and he rides a Honda ST full time. He didn't care for the FJR that much sorry guys. This clock at work can't move fast enough can't wait to get out there.
 

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he rides a Honda ST full time. He didn't care for the FJR that much
Not that unusual. Many Honda ST riders don't care for the more sport oriented ergos of the FJR compared to the ST. Also, when sitting on the FJR they feel they are sitting ON it versus being more a part of the bike when on the ST. :-\
 

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after having spent years aboard the Honda ST's, i can attest the same as your buddy has just said. My dad had the FJR, and it feels like a sport bike. I can't tell the difference in the power from the FJR to the Honda ST. Man, I am really going to love the Tenere. I can feel it already between my legs!!!!
 

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For the DEMO ride did you have to pay an entry fee. I'm looking at the Wisconsin Star Motorcycle Event in Middleton WI and they want you to register $57. I'm just asking to see if other Demo's are like this?
 

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No sir no fee for the one I just did. Now I did pay $15.00 entry at Roanoke bike fest but that was a totally different deal with bike shows and displays etc. Yamaha and Triumph were there letting folks demo but I didn't pony up anything extra to ride. I would look into that something doesn't sound right $57.00 is steep and I don't think Yamaha would sanction that must be something else going on.

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For the DEMO ride did you have to pay an entry fee. I'm looking at the Wisconsin Star Motorcycle Event in Middleton WI and they want you to register $57. I'm just asking to see if other Demo's are like this?
 

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For the DEMO ride did you have to pay an entry fee. I'm looking at the Wisconsin Star Motorcycle Event in Middleton WI and they want you to register $57. I'm just asking to see if other Demo's are like this?
I paid $5 to get into the show at Asheville.
 

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Yeah Rod I have to agree with you and my buddy, I rode the FJR Friday and did not care for the seating position at all plus the heat coming off that puppy was pretty uncomfortable. My arms and shoulders were numb and on fire by the time we returned to base camp just because of the aggressive seating position more sport bike for sure. The FJR felt really heavy as well. I will tell you that the XT was night and day from the FJR of course you can't compare the two but man each time I ride the XT I find more things I love about it. It handles like dream taking turns with little effort. The weight feels like a 125cc Eliminator and I love all the features and attention to detail Yamaha has put into it. One of the Yamaha demo riders is waiting on a blue XT and is an accomplished dual sport rider.

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Not that unusual. Many Honda ST riders don't care for the more sport oriented ergos of the FJR compared to the ST. Also, when sitting on the FJR they feel they are sitting ON it versus being more a part of the bike when on the ST. :-\
 

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Jeff I can tell you the wait for the XT is most definitely worth it no doubt in my mind. I was able to take my darling wife with me today and she was not sold on the XT at all and was used to the cruiser bikes we have had in the past. After she rode on it she loved it and really enjoyed the small things like the hand holds. We also liked the fact that we both sat at the same height instead of on past bikes she would sit higher then me. We also rode the Stratoliner and Stryker and she did not care for either after the XT. The bike just flat out accelerates in sport mode and I had no problem keeping up with FZ1, FZ8 etc.

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after having spent years aboard the Honda ST's, i can attest the same as your buddy has just said. My dad had the FJR, and it feels like a sport bike. I can't tell the difference in the power from the FJR to the Honda ST. Man, I am really going to love the Tenere. I can feel it already between my legs!!!!
 

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Yeah Rod I have to agree with you and my buddy, I rode the FJR Friday and did not care for the seating position at all plus the heat coming off that puppy was pretty uncomfortable. My arms and shoulders were numb and on fire by the time we returned to base camp just because of the aggressive seating position more sport bike for sure. The FJR felt really heavy as well. I will tell you that the XT was night and day from the FJR of course you can't compare the two but man each time I ride the XT I find more things I love about it. It handles like dream taking turns with little effort. The weight feels like a 125cc Eliminator and I love all the features and attention to detail Yamaha has put into it. One of the Yamaha demo riders is waiting on a blue XT and is an accomplished dual sport rider.
That means a lot coming from an MSF instructor. If anyone understands the value of balance in a bike, it would be you.
 

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. My arms and shoulders were numb and on fire by the time we returned to base camp just because of the aggressive seating position more sport bike for sure. The FJR felt really heavy as well.
Please for to not blame the FJR when perhaps the lack of Master Yoda Riding Position @ http://bmwsporttouring.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2757&page=1 may have been your doings good sir.

And, respectfully, the weighty feel of the FJR disappears at 3 mph.
 

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That's what it was Fred I should have left the parking lot. I knew I was doing something wrong. :D

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Yeah, Vince, you should have ridden the FJR faster than 3 mph. ;)
 

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Hey Paul it's been a bit since I have seen you post you must be flying more these days. All I can tell you is the XT is very surprising when you actually ride one versus what the specs state this bike tips the scales at. I would never guess it was a 500+ lb cicle.

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That means a lot coming from an MSF instructor. If anyone understands the value of balance in a bike, it would be you.
 

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pqsqac said:
Yeah Rod I have to agree with you and my buddy, I rode the FJR Friday and did not care for the seating position at all plus the heat coming off that puppy was pretty uncomfortable. My arms and shoulders were numb and on fire by the time we returned to base camp just because of the aggressive seating position more sport bike for sure. The FJR felt really heavy as well. I will tell you that the XT was night and day from the FJR of course you can't compare the two but man each time I ride the XT I find more things I love about it. It handles like dream taking turns with little effort. The weight feels like a 125cc Eliminator and I love all the features and attention to detail Yamaha has put into it. One of the Yamaha demo riders is waiting on a blue XT and is an accomplished dual sport rider.
But I'm not in that camp of (ex or current) Honda ST riders that don't care for the FJR. I feel just as comfortable with the ergos of both bikes and as for heat find that the FJR has LESS than the ST1300. To me, the FJR has the stability of the older ST1100 and the "flickability" of the newer ST1300 all in one package that is a fair amount lighter than either of the Honda ST's.

YMMV

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Noted and I stand corrected.

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But I'm not in that camp of (ex or current) Honda ST riders that don't care for the FJR. I feel just as comfortable with the ergos of both bikes and as for heat find that the FJR has LESS than the ST1300. To me, the FJR has the stability of the older ST1100 and the "flickability" of the newer ST1300 all in one package that is a fair amount lighter than either of the Honda ST's.

YMMV

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Yesterday my son and I road to Kansas City for the demo rides. We road 575 miles round trip and we only got to ride the Super Tenere one time each. I have never been so impressed with a bike ever. I switched back and forth between touring and sport, and really liked the smooth ride in the touring mode. In the sport mode it was noticeably snappier and will be fun in the twisties. Through the city traffic I even had it in 6th gear at 30 miles an hour and it was butter smooth. Several months ago when I got to sit on the bike and start it at a dealer in Minneapolis I have been a little skeptical on owning a big twin because I thought it looked like it was shaking a little bit at idle and may not be smooth enough for me. I have always been a fan of the 4 cylinder and one of my personal rules was to never own a twin again (1977 XS 650). Let me assure you this bike is smooth, no vibration at any speed, and it's a bike I felt like I could ride a 1000 mile day with no problem at all. Yesterday was a pretty windy day and I rode the bike with an open face helmet so I could get the full effect of how good the faring was, and was very impressed at all speeds. Cross wind had no effect of this bike. When we first got there and sat on it my boy mentioned how huge it was in the faring area, and he told me to lean it over and when I did I about dropped it. But once you put it in gear and take off it feels more like a trials bike, no top heaviness. The best handling street bike I have ever riden. I felt like the DL650 I am riding was just a cheep China bike after riding the Super Tenere. I also spent time riding my boys new KTM 990R on the way to K.C, It's a great bike and very fun [With almost NO windshield] But is not the all day touring comfort feel that I got on the XT1200. This may be the best bike ever built!!!! It just trashed my trip to Alaska this year because I can't be on my new XT I told Eric [jokenly] that we have to put off the trip until November. Oh and that was one of the USA bikes I rode. It had 350 miles on it.
 

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I forgot to mention that I scrolled through the dash and found the Average fuel mileage and it was almost 40, and that is on a demo bike that has been flogged all day long in Sport mode. I set the dash to show instant fuel mileage while I road and at a very steady 65 mph it read 58 mpg.
 

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Great report eemsreno! I wish they would offer some demos out my way again!

Thanks for sharing!

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I have also read on here and other sights that the differance between Touring and sport is only in throttle ramps.. It doesn't take a geneous when you ride this bike to know there is a lot more changed than just throttle ramps. The 2012 sales brochure says " Choose from two different IGNITION MAPPING SETTINGS
 
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