Talk to me about bar risers - what are you running?

[sportsguy]

OK, so let the farkling begin!

Bar risers.

Who is running what, and what's the max height we can run on an S10 without needing to lengthen lines?

How do you like what you have...and more importantly, would you buy them again, or would you try something different next time?

 

[jrb_nw]

Why bar risers, is it primarily for ease of standing when off road? Seems they would be high for street use then. You'll have to excuse my ignorance of these matters - I come from a sport tour background.

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[sportsguy]

Why bar risers, is it primarily for ease of standing when off road? Seems they would be high for street use then. You'll have to excuse my ignorance of these matters - I come from a sport tour background.

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You're on the right track.

Mostly for more comfort and control while standing, which can happen on and offroad.

I actually noticed a big improvement in overall comfort when I raised the bars 2 inches on my KTM 690 Enduro R. It changes the entire upper body relationship you have with the motorcycle.

 

[clint64]

I'm running protaper atv high bars with no bar risers. Increased height over stock with much less sweep. I'm 6'1" with 33" inseam and the bars work for me standing as well as general riding. No need to change the stock lines. My main problem with the stock bars was the sweep and drop at the ends. It just killed my shoulders. HTH

 

[Dallara]

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Rox Riser Off-Sets on my bike...

http://roxspeedfx.com/product/rox-pro-offset-block-riser.htm

Work great, with perfect fit and beautiful finish. No need for different cables or hoses, and I've been happily running them for over a year and a half and over 25,000 miles. Yes, I would gladly purchase them again.

Dallara



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[sportsguy]

I'm running protaper atv high bars with no bar risers. Increased height over stock with much less sweep. I'm 6'1" with 33" inseam and the bars work for me standing as well as general riding. No need to change the stock lines. My main problem with the stock bars was the sweep and drop at the ends. It just killed my shoulders. HTH

Interesting option Clint - It's on my list to research. And if I go that route, and I'll need to take the grips off, I might as well install heated grips during the install.

Thanks Dallara - do you find them offering good positioning for when standing on the pegs? I do plan on some offroad with my S10.

 

[rotortech71]

I have the SWMotech 1 inch risers. I hated the cheap looking bolts that came with them, and swapped them out with better quality stainless flange bolts, like the stock ones. Risers made all the difference on my V-Strom, and did the trick for the Tenere too. No need for longer lines with one inch up. Some just prefer different postures and ergonomics I guess. One person may hate risers, while another can't live without them. I have very long monkey arms, and still felt like I was reaching too far for the bars in their stock position. If I were to do it again, I would look at Rox, since they look so nice.

 

[Dallara]

Thanks Dallara - do you find them offering good positioning for when standing on the pegs? I do plan on some offroad with my S10.

Absolutely. I'm only 5'8" with a 29" inseam so I was glad to get the bars a bit closer to me, both sitting and standing. Getting the bars raised up a bit helped when standing on the pegs.

Dallara


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[sportsguy]

Absolutely. I'm only 5'8" with a 29" inseam so I was glad to get the bars a bit closer to me, both sitting and standing. Getting the bars raised up a bit helped when standing on the pegs.

Dallara


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My concern is they might bring the bars toward me too much for standing comfort. I need to pay attention to my positioning tomorrow when I ride the bike.

I'm 6 feet, with a 30" inseam, so mostly torso.

Still, the price is right. The quality evident!

Anyone know the max rise we can run without needing to swap to longer lines? AltRider has a repositioning kit they sell and recommend for the 2" Rox risers, but the one review on the product suggests it still doesn't leave enough slack. That said, we have no way of knowing what the reviewer's tolerance is for tight lines - expecting stock levels of slack is a bit much unless you replace lines, IMO.

 

[Dallara]

My concern is they might bring the bars toward me too much for standing comfort. I need to pay attention to my positioning tomorrow when I ride the bike.

I'm 6 feet, with a 30" inseam, so mostly torso.

Still, the price is right. The quality evident!

Anyone know the max rise we can run without needing to swap to longer lines? AltRider has a repositioning kit they sell and recommend for the 2" Rox risers, but the one review on the product suggests it still doesn't leave enough slack. That said, we have no way of knowing what the reviewer's tolerance is for tight lines - expecting stock levels of slack is a bit much unless you replace lines, IMO.

Tons and tons of info on this subject has already been posted on the forum. Probably better for you to do a few searches and some reading rather than just have it all re-hashed again in this thread. The subject has been discussed since the day this forum went live.

Dallara


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[sportsguy]

Tons and tons of info on this subject has already been posted on the forum. Probably better for you to do a few searches and some reading rather than just have it all re-hashed again in this thread. The subject has been discussed since the day this forum went live.

Dallara


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...and there it is.

You guys have no way of knowing this, but I actually have run community forums for almost a decade now. I know how to search, and I do. After a couple hours of reading, though, it's unclear to me what the actual answer to my question is. Lots of conjecture, but if I wanted guesswork, I'd just start buying and returning stuff.

This is an age old community problem - established members can't be bothered/are annoyed by questions they've already hashed out v. new members thinking its a place to ask their questions and get answers. Too often they just get dumped on and told "go search, noob (yeah, I'm looking at you ADVRider... ).

Please understand Dallara - I like to engage people, and I feel your suggestion was intended as helpful. I in no way feel you're "dumping" on me, either.

That said, how hard is it, really, to answer a question like that. "It's 1- 1/4" - that's the max" Pretty quick, and would help me move from researching, searching, reading and trying to piece together a realistic picture to...buying the part I want before I go to bed. The draw of communities such as this for many is the ability to speed discovery and get answers faster. If it's all just "go search", well, we have search engines for that. I know this side of the equation exceptionally well, working for an engine and having written two books on the subject.

Anyway, I've crossed over to rambling now. I'm off to search for random tidbits so I can try to complete my task - buying risers.

duane

 

[Dallara]

...and there it is.

You guys have no way of knowing this, but I actually have run community forums for almost a decade now. I know how to search, and I do. After a couple hours of reading, though, it's unclear to me what the actual answer to my question is. Lots of conjecture, but if I wanted guesswork, I'd just start buying and returning stuff.

This is an age old community problem - established members can't be bothered/are annoyed by questions they've already hashed out v. new members thinking its a place to ask their questions and get answers. Too often they just get dumped on and told "go search, noob (yeah, I'm looking at you ADVRider... ).

Please understand Dallara - I like to engage people, and I feel your suggestion was intended as helpful. I in no way feel you're "dumping" on me, either.

That said, how hard is it, really, to answer a question like that. "It's 1- 1/4" - that's the max" Pretty quick, and would help me move from researching, searching, reading and trying to piece together a realistic picture to...buying the part I want before I go to bed. The draw of communities such as this for many is the ability to speed discovery and get answers faster. If it's all just "go search", well, we have search engines for that. I know this side of the equation exceptionally well, working for an engine and having written two books on the subject.

Anyway, I've crossed over to rambling now. I'm off to search for random tidbits so I can try to complete my task - buying risers.

duane

That's all great...

But all too often the "noob", as you call 'em, is just too lazy to search. Obviously not here in your case, but all too often, nonetheless.

Meanwhile, whomever is asking often tends to forget things like the fact I installed my risers over a year and a half ago, and I did all my research, measurement, fitting, etc. back then. I've slept since then, a bunch, and I sincerely apologize that I don't have the simple, quick, fast, pat answer you want right at hand. I may not recall all those details after this much time. I'm sure many here feel the same.

To be honest, I am often the first to tell someone to do a search. Sorry if that's too much work for some, but in all sincerity that's how I figure out what I want to buy. I don't depend on one or two quick answers from folks that just happen to be watching the thread a question is asked in. That's a quick and expensive way to get a bunch of gear that doesn't work for you. I recall I did a fair amount of research when I bought my Rox Risers, and maybe that's why they worked so well for me and I didn't need to try anything else. Same with things like ECU re-flashes and other items.

OTOH, some things are so personal that only trial and error will give you the answers you need... Probably why I have three different seats here, and have tried four different windshields, etc. Sometimes there are no easy answers, no matter how much we wish there was one quick and magic one available instantaneously.

Hope you don't feel like I'm "dumping on you", but here you post a question only a couple of hours ago and yet you're a bit frustrated when you don't have the answer you want that quick, and then don't care for the suggestion that you do a search about a subject where your questions have been answered dozens and dozens of times by tons of people who may not be watching this thread at the moment... If you don't want to do some more searching then maybe you ought to give it about 24 hours to give a few more people the chance to see your question and formulate a response.

just a thought...

Dallara



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[mcbrien]

I'm using these and like them .
http://compare.ebay.com/like/140587515111?_lwgsi=y&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar

 

[tomatocity]

Duane, there is already a ton of information on bar riders and handlebars. I believe there is another active thread that was replied to yesterday. A search will land you a lot of reading.

I have the same risers as Dallara plus ProTaper Raptor bars.

 

[jimbob]

That said, we have no way of knowing what the reviewer's tolerance is for tight lines - expecting stock levels of slack is a bit much unless you replace lines, IMO.

That said, how hard is it, really, to answer a question like that. "It's 1- 1/4" - that's the max" Pretty quick, and would help me move from researching, searching, reading and trying to piece together a realistic picture to...buying the part I want before I go to bed.

I don't think there is a clear cut answer. As you touched on in your previous reply, line slack tolerance varies.

I have the same risers as Dallara. Bar placement works well for me and I agree they do well with the stock lines. Personally, I wouldn't want to go any higher without longer lines but that's me, many have successfully done so.

Like Clint, I have issues with the sweep of the stock bars and just installed a set of the Pro Taper ATV High on top of my risers. Too early to tell if this combo will work for me but the reduced sweep increased line slack a good bit.

Best of luck. I spent hours researching bars/risers and am still experimenting....

 

[avc8130]

I'm running 2" pivoting ROX Risers and Pro Taper Contour ATV LOW.

I put the extended lines on. The stock lines "tugged" at the connectors and I didn't want any worries over the long haul. Cheap enough peace of mind for me.

ac

 

[OldRider]

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Rox Riser Off-Sets on my bike...

http://roxspeedfx.com/product/rox-pro-offset-block-riser.htm

Work great, with perfect fit and beautiful finish. No need for different cables or hoses, and I've been happily running them for over a year and a half and over 25,000 miles. Yes, I would gladly purchase them again.

Dallara



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+1 for the Rox risers. I put a set on last week, took 10 minutes and it gave me the little bit of bend I needed in my arms to be comfortable. Cheap and work great.

 

[cosmic]

I'am using regular 3cm (1.2 inch) risers, with oem handlebar. I'am 6'4'' and i find it o.k. After lot of positive comments, i decided to go for the Pro Taper ATV Mid bar, which will give me extra 1inch on top of the oem bar. Together with the riser it'll be +2.2 inch with waaay less sweep. I would not know if the lines will be long enough for this rise, cause i have longer custom ones.


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[sportsguy]

That's all great...

But all too often the "noob", as you call 'em, is just too lazy to search. Obviously not here in your case, but all too often, nonetheless.

Meanwhile, whomever is asking often tends to forget things like the fact I installed my risers over a year and a half ago, and I did all my research, measurement, fitting, etc. back then. I've slept since then, a bunch, and I sincerely apologize that I don't have the simple, quick, fast, pat answer you want right at hand. I may not recall all those details after this much time. I'm sure many here feel the same.

To be honest, I am often the first to tell someone to do a search. Sorry if that's too much work for some, but in all sincerity that's how I figure out what I want to buy. I don't depend on one or two quick answers from folks that just happen to be watching the thread a question is asked in. That's a quick and expensive way to get a bunch of gear that doesn't work for you. I recall I did a fair amount of research when I bought my Rox Risers, and maybe that's why they worked so well for me and I didn't need to try anything else. Same with things like ECU re-flashes and other items.

OTOH, some things are so personal that only trial and error will give you the answers you need... Probably why I have three different seats here, and have tried four different windshields, etc. Sometimes there are no easy answers, no matter how much we wish there was one quick and magic one available instantaneously.

Hope you don't feel like I'm "dumping on you", but here you post a question only a couple of hours ago and yet you're a bit frustrated when you don't have the answer you want that quick, and then don't care for the suggestion that you do a search about a subject where your questions have been answered dozens and dozens of times by tons of people who may not be watching this thread at the moment... If you don't want to do some more searching then maybe you ought to give it about 24 hours to give a few more people the chance to see your question and formulate a response.

just a thought...

Dallara



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To clarify - nope, no way, no how did I feel you were dumping on me. I took the suggestion as constructive.

...and you do raise a few great points, too. Especially the timeline related point - super easy to miss this point, that those who came before you did so, perhaps, years in advance. Tough to recall those smaller details even a few weeks after you've sorted your own solution in my experience.

In fact, your own example may have provided the solution I seek. Rox has a pair in black with oval holes them claim "fit many applications". At $97 they might just be worth a try.

 

[Dallara]

To clarify - nope, no way, no how did I feel you were dumping on me. I took the suggestion as constructive.

...and you do raise a few great points, too. Especially the timeline related point - super easy to miss this point, that those who came before you did so, perhaps, years in advance. Tough to recall those smaller details even a few weeks after you've sorted your own solution in my experience.

In fact, your own example may have provided the solution I seek. Rox has a pair in black with oval holes them claim "fit many applications". At $97 they might just be worth a try.

Regarding the Rox Risers...

They have three models of the "fixed" (no-pivoting) variety. The rather standard one...

http://roxspeedfx.com/product/rox-pro-offset-block-riser.htm

Then they have their "Elite" model...

http://roxspeedfx.com/product/rox-pro-offset-elite-block-riser.htm

Which, as you note, have the mounting holes that go to the triple clamps slightly elongated so they can fit many different bikes. They also have circular inserts that allow them to be used with standard 7/8ths inch handlebars should you want to try some. With the inserts removed they mount "Fat Bar" types, like what comes on the Super Tenere standard. These "Elite" risers are the ones I have.

Then they have the black "Elite" risers you mention...

http://roxspeedfx.com/product/rox-pro-offset-elite-block-riser-black.htm

These are identical to the silver "Elite" models other than being anodized black. You may want them, but IMHO black ones would look rather odd on the Super Tenere's silver triple clamp and with its silver handlebars.

Just FYI...

Dallara



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