T1 or T2

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So now the I've been commuting with mt bike I'm wondering when I would use the different traction control settings. I know default is T1 and also in the rain, so when would I use T2?
 

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Im not really sure why there is three settings... Should just be on and off in my opinion. TCS has always just gotten me in trouble in the dirt... Turned off and I can drag that tire all over the place... Though... when bogged in the sand TC2 did the trick getting out of the rut, then I switched it off again so I could power out of the long sandy patch.
 

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I'm an old fart and I use T1/T for street riding and T2/S for offroad and when I'm feeling frisky I turn traction and ABS both off .
 

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T2 is awesome for dirt/gravel roads. Allows you to ride hard on the throttle and never worry about the rear end kicking out too much and losing control but just enough to let the rear wheel spin a little and put a smile on your face. A definite 8/10 on the Grin Factor Scale. ::26::
 

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I am no expert... so I will start there. All forward motion is about traction. Wheel spin is not traction and only really has value in soft sufaces like sand. If you have enough floatation you do not need wheel spin on soft surfaces. look to rock crawlers for traction to the max... it is why we air down when off-road to get a bigger contact patch... to get more traction. For sure wheel spin is fun but look to trials riders - ya never see wheel spin there, just momentum, traction and good balance

TC2 means you do not have to be as good with the throttle to manage traction and forward momentum. ::001::

Traction Control really just helps us with poor throttle control, makes 90hp controlable by anyone regardless of skill. ::26:: ::26::
 

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my definition of traction control settings

T1-Safe as houses
T2-Fun on a bun
TC OFF-Poop your pants fun

Hope that helps ::013::

no but seriously....T1 is great in the rain, on a cold day (near freezing), great on really loose gravel, at a fast pace...when you want to keep the slides to a minmum.
T2 for slower going off road, great for washboard, great on a nice day, anywhere really
TC OFF- tell you the truth, I never turn TC off, can't be bothered to hold the button for that long ::014::
 

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The problem with traction control in the dirt is that when riding "on the throttle" is that when you lose traction the engine cuts out and you get a very annoying stutter sort of like hitting a rev limiter. This is especially noticable running up a grade under throttle. In the dirt I just turn it off and everything is happy,
::015::.
 

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toompine said:
The problem with traction control in the dirt is that when riding "on the throttle" is that when you lose traction the engine cuts out and you get a very annoying stutter sort of like hitting a rev limiter. This is especially noticable running up a grade under throttle. In the dirt I just turn it off and everything is happy,
::015:: .
I've done some pretty good hill climbs, rock, loose dirt, I haven't found a reason to turn off TC2. TC1 is useless off road as far as I'm concerned. But unleashing full wheel spin just at the twist of a throttle? I'd rather get to the top of the hill rather than getting buried.
 

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greg the pole said:
my definition of traction control settings

T1-Safe as houses
T2-Fun on a bun
TC OFF-Poop your pants fun
That's good.... :D

I like T2 for gravel roads, or easy off road. It allows me to have a better time.. If it gets much more crazy than a gravel road I turn it OFF... Ive gotten in more trouble with myself when I go to call for max power and its left in T1-T2.. Then Im really ticked... On my bike, Off road / (S) mode / TC off will make you poop your pants, and try and spit you off the bike in about two seconds... :D That's no fun
 

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T1 for asphalt/ hard road surfaces. I do NOT recommend it in dirt, especially if you make slow tight turns while leaning. It will cut power to back wheel and down you go. Great on wet surface streets!
T2 for gravel roads, especially for beginners (like me) in low traction settings. You can get the feel for sliding the rear wheel around with throttle control without going overboard, or should I say "over bars".
TC Off. I would get some experience on low traction off-road stuff before trying his.

Just a newbies opinion.
 

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I haven't done much off road, but I had it on TC1 while I was on a gravelly, pitted, washboard road. TC1 would even let me accelerate. It kept cutting out. And I could have used some more power to get through a few of the rough spots. Otherwise, since I commute on it, it's pretty much on TC1. Next time I hit a gravel road, I'm going to use TC2.
 

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I rode the Eastern TAT a couple of weeks ago. It rained buckets in Misssissippi and mud was everywhere. My buddy was riding a GS and I can't tell you how many times he went down in the mud(no TC). I was in TC1 and the ole girl just putted through the crap, didn't drop once, ::013::
 

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Don't forget to turn it off crossing creeks especially long crossings. I've forgotten to turn it off after it defaults to tc1 and stuttered my way through. NOT FUN :exclaim:
 

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I am finding that I prefer T2 in most situations, but I hate having to reset it every time I shut the bike off, so my laziness dictates I usually run T1.
 

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TC1 is my rain/wet pavement mode. Wet road and highway droning is also the only time I use Touring mode.

TC2 for 90% of all my riding.

TC Off for when I'm off pavement and the road has a lot of washboarding, or if I'm doing a significant water crossing, or I'm on a twisty road like The Snake and want all available power, or if I just want some uninhibited wheelies. This probably accounts for 5% or less of all my riding.
 

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T2 is definitely the way to go for me as is S mode but most of the time I don't bother messing with it. Usually on the go before I think about it. I imagine they could change the default in a reflash. Frankly, it should default to where you left it.
 

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I've been considering the ECUnleased flash. Not sure I want to move in that direction. I've read a few threads on flashing and I have flashed my Golf R with awesome results. I'm not sure if the flash will improve performance in some areas but create unanticipated issues.
 
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