Shell made all good points for having that policy. I don't blame them for having it when lawyers are jumping at the bit to get a piece of a big company like that. If it bothered you that much then go to another station...
Couldn't agree with you more, we'll said. ::008::scott123007 said:Sounds just like the helmet issue to me. If you guys choose to be idiots when all the logic of why it's safer is out there, I guess it's your option.
Be careful with the stone throwing there fellow. You're standing in a glass house, remember?scott123007 said:Sounds just like the helmet issue to me. If you guys choose to be idiots when all the logic of why it's safer is out there, I guess it's your option.
Apparently, he should stick to cars. He was done with the fill up when he got back on. Not being on the bike while filling it didn't seem to help his lack of maintenance issue. Or help him learn to ride.limey said:http://youtu.be/VLuPVoLpNUM bad day at the gas station.
I agree. Motorcycling is not the safest activity out there to start with and a certain level of competance is required. There are many factors invovled in refuelling a motorcycle, some already mentioned. For me, I'm tall and can stand astride my S10 with my feet flat on the floor and without sitting on the seat. I think it's safe for me to refuel holding the bike that way as long as I pay attention to the actually refuelling. But I would not say it's true of everyone.EricV said:As a tongue in cheek counter, if you're too incompetent to pay attention to something as simply as putting gas in your bike w/o screwing it up, maybe you should just stick to cars.
They're working on it! ::010::RockyDS said:Do we really need this level of bureaucracy in society?
Now we know what you don't like what do you suggest as an reasonable alternative to rules, guidelines and regulations in society. I'll bet if there was a fueling mishap at a Shell station and one of your loved ones got injured you would be the first one to ask why Shell didn't enforce their own rules.RockyDS said:I agree. Motorcycling is not the safest activity out there to start with and a certain level of competance is required. There are many factors invovled in refuelling a motorcycle, some already mentioned. For me, I'm tall and can stand astride my S10 with my feet flat on the floor and without sitting on the seat. I think it's safe for me to refuel holding the bike that way as long as I pay attention to the actually refuelling. But I would not say it's true of everyone.
The problem with guidelines, rules, regulations, etc. is that although they may be well intentioned and make perfect sense in most circumstances, they're a one size fits all solution that may be flawed. As a general guideline I don't have any issue with Shell's policy, but when/if it becomes law then I do. The draconian enforcement of someone else's opinion as to what is right, wrong, safe, unsafe, etc. without regard to common sense (if there is such a thing) just doesn't make sense to me.
Do we really need this level of bureaucracy in society?
Well you'd loose that bet and I think you've completely missed the point anyway. I did not say there is no place for rules guidelines and regulations in society at all. I did say :elwood said:Now we know what you don't like what do you suggest as an reasonable alternative to rules, guidelines and regulations in society. I'll bet if there was a fueling mishap at a Shell station and one of your loved ones got injured you would be the first one to ask why Shell didn't enforce their own rules.
If you don't like the Shell rules go to another gas station. ::024::
The draconian enforcement of someone else's opinion as to what is right, wrong, safe, unsafe, etc. without regard to common sense (if there is such a thing) just doesn't make sense to me.
Do we really need this level of bureaucracy in society?"
Reveille said:
Wow, bad day indeed. That guy needs to stick to cars. How the hell did he crash?limey said:http://youtu.be/VLuPVoLpNUM bad day at the gas station.
Says the guy from the state that pumps your gas for you. ;DTwisties said:I think I could stand to see "Big Oil" develop a real safety culture. Something to think about.